Disputes between Hamas, unity gov't deepen internal Palestinian split

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News Analysis: Disputes between Hamas, unity gov't deepen internal Palestinian split
English.news.cn
by Saud Abu Ramadan

GAZA, April 22 (Xinhua) -- Eight Palestinian cabinet ministers suddenly left the Gaza Strip for the West Bank on Monday evening following deep disputes with Islamic Hamas movement.

Political analysts said the failure to reach any agreement between the two sides not only frustrated Gaza populations who were hoping to hear good news, but also deepen an endless internal division between Hamas and President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah Party.

The unity government's delegation arrived in Gaza on Sunday. The delegation, which included 22 high-ranking government's employees, carried a government initiative aiming at ending the salary crisis of Gaza employees first.

Analysts said the reason for the deadlock was the clear contradiction in the visions of both Hamas and the unity government in the mechanism of implementing the initiative and the solutions to the existing functional infrastructure.

WHY THEY DIFFER?

Naji Shurab, political science professor at al-Azhar University in Gaza, told Xinhua that during the meetings between the government's officials and Hamas representatives, "it was clear that Hamas leaders wanted first to find a solution to the postponement of paying salaries to its employees in Gaza."

When Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip by force in 2007, around 70,000 employees were getting their monthly salaries paid by the Palestinian National Authority (PNA). In response, President Abbas instructed those employees to stay home and get their monthly salaries paid.

A vacuum was left and the daily life affairs of the populations in the Gaza Strip were influenced, mainly in areas of health, education and security. To resolve the problem, Hamas nominated 43,000 employees to fill the vacuum at that time and paid their salaries for eight years.

But when the unity government was formed in June last year, as part of a reconciliation agreement reached with Fatah Party, Hamas demanded the unity government to pay the salaries of its 43,000 Gaza staff. The unity government presented an initiative to overcome the crisis.

The initiative brought by the government's delegation was based on fixing, rebuilding and unifying the employees' payment system for both Gaza and the West Bank and to include all employees under one authority. The initiative included replacement of employees and urging others for early retirement.

"Hamas has been trying to pressure on the government's delegation to approve the monthly salaries payment to its 43,000 employees in the Gaza Strip before rebuilding or rearranging the new Palestinian employees' payment system," said Shurab.

Full story: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-04/21/c_134171317.htm

-- Xinhua 2015-04-22

[arjunadawn]

More graft, hogwash, and sleight of hand. I am pretty sure neither of these actors actually pays these people, we do.

[Credo]

Time to create a diversion. I wonder how they will do that?

[Srikcir]

How can Palestine and Israel achieve a two-state solution when the Palestinians have essentially two Heads of State? There is no unity of a Palestiniand government. All Israel needs to do to disrupt the two-state process is let Hamas and the Palestinian Authority fight for power.

[Steely Dan]

Palestinian Unity Government is at least one and maybe more oxymorons all rolled into one. Only a matter of weeks ago 500 Hamas supporters were arrested in the West Bank over a suspected plot to overthrow the Palestinian authority (sic). Those who still bother to refer to a Palestinian unity government do so only in order to delay administering the last rites to a two state solution.

[SheungWan]

Maybe Hamas should phone Greece for some advice.

[chuckd]

Everybody can rest easy. Obama's newest playmate in the Middle East peace process is going to make up the short fall for Hamas.

Maybe they can now pay their bills...unless they use the money for tunnels and rockets.

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Iran Sent ‘Tens Of Millions’ To Renew Support For Hamas

ERICA WENIG

8:20 PM 04/23/2015

The Iranian regime is reviving support for the Sunni terror group ruling Gaza in wake of nuclear agreements with the White House.

Tehran has transferred tens of millions of dollars to Hamas’s military arm over the last few months, according to The Wall Street Journal. The money will assist militants in repairing tunnels destroyed by the Israeli Defense Forces last summer.

Hamas’s military wing, dubbed the Izz al-Din al-Qassam brigades, is also replenishing its “depleted stocks of medium-range missiles,” reports Con Coughlin, a WSJ contributor.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/23/iran-sent-tens-of-millions-to-renew-support-for-hamas/

[konying]

Strange that the usual Hamas and Co support group has not made a single comment.

But the whole thing is as yet another reminder of what Israel has to deal with and in reality achieving a peace deal or 2 state solution is pretty much impossible.

Not only they can not govern themselves, they can not even agree who is to govern let alone on the policy, law, or anything else.

The only agreement they seem to reach is to destroy and undermine Israel, everything else is tit for tat.

Edited April 24, 2015 by konying

[Jingthing]

Two state solution does look nearly impossible but I still think why not continue to push for it as who knows maybe someday sanity might break out.

[Thorgal]

Strange that the usual Hamas and Co support group has not made a single comment.

But the whole thing is as yet another reminder of what Israel has to deal with and in reality achieving a peace deal or 2 state solution is pretty much impossible.

Not only they can not govern themselves, they can not even agree who is to govern let alone on the policy, law, or anything else.

The only agreement they seem to reach is to destroy and undermine Israel, everything else is tit for tat.

Saud Abu Ramadan worked as freelance journalist for Bloomberg News...

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/saud-abu-ramadan/4a/a5b/891

Edited April 24, 2015 by Thorgal

[Jingthing]

Strange that the usual Hamas and Co support group has not made a single comment.

But the whole thing is as yet another reminder of what Israel has to deal with and in reality achieving a peace deal or 2 state solution is pretty much impossible.

Not only they can not govern themselves, they can not even agree who is to govern let alone on the policy, law, or anything else.

The only agreement they seem to reach is to destroy and undermine Israel, everything else is tit for tat.

Saud Abu Ramadan worked as freelance journalist for Bloomberg News...

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/saud-abu-ramadan/4a/a5b/891

So what?

What's your point?

Seems totally irrelevant to me.

[Thorgal]

Strange that the usual Hamas and Co support group has not made a single comment.

But the whole thing is as yet another reminder of what Israel has to deal with and in reality achieving a peace deal or 2 state solution is pretty much impossible.

Not only they can not govern themselves, they can not even agree who is to govern let alone on the policy, law, or anything else.

The only agreement they seem to reach is to destroy and undermine Israel, everything else is tit for tat.

Saud Abu Ramadan worked as freelance journalist for Bloomberg News...

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/saud-abu-ramadan/4a/a5b/891

So what?

What's your point?

Seems totally irrelevant to me.

Is Bloomberg Jewish orientated ?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg

[Jingthing]

Strange that the usual Hamas and Co support group has not made a single comment.

But the whole thing is as yet another reminder of what Israel has to deal with and in reality achieving a peace deal or 2 state solution is pretty much impossible.

Not only they can not govern themselves, they can not even agree who is to govern let alone on the policy, law, or anything else.

The only agreement they seem to reach is to destroy and undermine Israel, everything else is tit for tat.

Saud Abu Ramadan worked as freelance journalist for Bloomberg News...

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/saud-abu-ramadan/4a/a5b/891

So what?

What's your point?

Seems totally irrelevant to me.

Is Bloomberg Jewish orientated ?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg

That again?

The Jew hunting and sniffing?

OMG.

If there is any remote Jew connection to anything, it is worthless?

Bringing up totally irrelevant Jew connections to all kinds of things as has been done here so many times -- it is truly offensive and hateful.

Edited April 24, 2015 by Jingthing

[Thorgal]

Strange that the usual Hamas and Co support group has not made a single comment.

But the whole thing is as yet another reminder of what Israel has to deal with and in reality achieving a peace deal or 2 state solution is pretty much impossible.

Not only they can not govern themselves, they can not even agree who is to govern let alone on the policy, law, or anything else.

The only agreement they seem to reach is to destroy and undermine Israel, everything else is tit for tat.

Saud Abu Ramadan worked as freelance journalist for Bloomberg News...

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/saud-abu-ramadan/4a/a5b/891

So what?
What's your point?
Seems totally irrelevant to me.

Is Bloomberg Jewish orientated ?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg

That again?
The Jew hunting and sniffing?
OMG.
If there is any remote Jew connection to anything, it is worthless?
Bringing up totally irrelevant Jew connections to all kinds of things as has been done here so many times -- it is truly offensive and hateful.

Can you provide any Palestinian domestic objective source ? Edited April 25, 2015 by Scott

[konying]

Strange that the usual Hamas and Co support group has not made a single comment.

But the whole thing is as yet another reminder of what Israel has to deal with and in reality achieving a peace deal or 2 state solution is pretty much impossible.

Not only they can not govern themselves, they can not even agree who is to govern let alone on the policy, law, or anything else.

The only agreement they seem to reach is to destroy and undermine Israel, everything else is tit for tat.

Saud Abu Ramadan worked as freelance journalist for Bloomberg News...

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/saud-abu-ramadan/4a/a5b/891

So what?

What's your point?

Seems totally irrelevant to me.

Is Bloomberg Jewish orientated ?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg

Oh the never ending "blame the jews"

Getting tiresome, though clearly tickles some people's fancy

[Jingthing]

Palestinian objective source?

There is such a thing?

The OP is not a Jew source.

Only in the Jew demonizing sickness of people who have repeatedly posted rabid neo-Nazi propaganda is that a Jew source just because the author has worked sometimes freelance for the Bloomberg organization. Yes Bloomberg is a Jewish name. Brilliant find that.

Of course if it was an alleged "Jew source" and agreed with Israel demonization, that would be pure gold for an obsessive Jew sniffer, wouldn't it?

Edited April 24, 2015 by Jingthing

[konying]

Can you provide any Palestinian domestic objective source ?

Hamas is Palestinian right?

So it would be

As outlined in its 1988 charter (www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/mideast/hamas.htm), Hamas’s principal objective is the confrontation of Israel, which it considers a foreign cancer on sacred Muslim land.

[Thorgal]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid who never went to Palestina ?

Edited April 24, 2015 by Thorgal

[Jingthing]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid ?

Good one.

Backing off now from the offensive and irrelevant Jew sniffing.

[konying]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid who never went to Palestina ?

So just to confirm for the record.

When some Chinese tabloid writes something bad about Israel , it is accepted by you as a TRUE and UNDISPUTED FACT.

However when it comes to something about so called Fakestinia, it is no longer a valid or reliable source?

Could you confirm please for future references?

[Jingthing]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid who never went to Palestina ?

So just to confirm for the record.

When some Chinese tabloid writes something bad about Israel , it is accepted by you as a TRUE and UNDISPUTED FACT.

However when it comes to something about so called Fakestinia, it is no longer a valid or reliable source?

Could you confirm please for future references?

You can take that one to the (Jew controlled ) bank!

[Thorgal]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid who never went to Palestina ?

So just to confirm for the record.

When some Chinese tabloid writes something bad about Israel , it is accepted by you as a TRUE and UNDISPUTED FACT.

However when it comes to something about so called Fakestinia, it is no longer a valid or reliable source?

Could you confirm please for future references?

Chinese tabloid wrote about a dispute of Hamas...and I've expressed my doubts about any objectivity about the reporter...

Did the same reporter also wrote in the past for the Washington Post and United Press ?

[Thorgal]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid who never went to Palestina ?

So just to confirm for the record.

When some Chinese tabloid writes something bad about Israel , it is accepted by you as a TRUE and UNDISPUTED FACT.

However when it comes to something about so called Fakestinia, it is no longer a valid or reliable source?

Could you confirm please for future references?

Did the Chinese tabloid wrote in OP about Israel ?....No !

The topic is about a doubtfull dispute of Hamas members...

Edited April 24, 2015 by Thorgal

[konying]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid who never went to Palestina ?

So just to confirm for the record.

When some Chinese tabloid writes something bad about Israel , it is accepted by you as a TRUE and UNDISPUTED FACT.

However when it comes to something about so called Fakestinia, it is no longer a valid or reliable source?

Could you confirm please for future references?

Chinese tabloid wrote about a dispute of Hamas...and I've expressed my doubts about any objectivity about the reporter...

Did the same reporter also wrote in the past for the Washington Post and United Press ?

So you have no doubts to any piece written by anyone from anywhere when in comes to Israel but you have doubts when it comes to Hamas?

Please clarify your position, because to this date, you had never had an issue with any writer or publication of a source which bashed Israel or put it in the bad light.

Please go ahead

[konying]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid who never went to Palestina ?

So just to confirm for the record.

When some Chinese tabloid writes something bad about Israel , it is accepted by you as a TRUE and UNDISPUTED FACT.

However when it comes to something about so called Fakestinia, it is no longer a valid or reliable source?

Could you confirm please for future references?

Did the Chinese tabloid wrote in OP about Israel ?....No !

The topic is about a doubtfull dispute of Hamas members...

No, he did not. But you managed to bring Israel and Jews into it.

Now you need to clarify your position, because thus far you have been zig zaging like a snake

[chuckd]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid who never went to Palestina ?

If/when you ever find a media report that refutes the OP article, give us a shout.

Until then, your posts are simply baits leading to for argument.

[Scott]

I strongly suggest that posters get back on the topic. Continued baiting will result in suspension.

[geriatrickid]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid who never went to Palestina ?

You trusted the Chinese media when they reported on the recent Asia Africa meeting resolution. The Chinese media failed to report on the discomfort of many delegates in respect to a resolution forced on the meeting by the Islamists who attended. You took that statement as evidence of the "world turning" on Israel, and yet now you have reservations with the Chinese media.

The canard of Bloomberg having an "agenda" exposed your personal views. Perhaps someone will toss you some more straws to grab.

Edited April 25, 2015 by geriatrickid

[chuckd]

Perhaps the Telegraph will better satisfy our readers that have nothing better than attacking the sources.

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Iran 'is intensifying efforts to support Hamas in Gaza'

By Con Coughlin, Defence Editor 4:58PM BST 04 Apr 2015

Iran has sent Hamas’s military wing tens of millions of dollars to help it rebuild the network of tunnels in Gaza destroyed by Israel’s invasion last summer, intelligence sources have told The Sunday Telegraph.

It is also funding new missile supplies to replenish stocks used to bombard residential neighbourhoods in Israel during the war, code-named Operation Protective Edge by Israel.

The renewed funding is a sign that the two old allies are putting behind them a rift caused by the conflict in Syria, where Shia Iran is backing President Bashar al-Assad against Hamas’s mainly Sunni allies.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11515603/Iran-is-intensifying-efforts-to-support-Hamas-in-Gaza.html

[BKKBobby]

Did one of Hamas members made an official statement of the dispute ?

Or, do we trust a Chinese tabloid who never went to Palestina ?

They would question your source if it was a rumour about internal problems in the jewish government, if it was a journalist writing for a "Arab-friendly" news agency, thats always fair game.

The other way around is a no no, its sacred.

Fakistinia? I like it when they question the historical name of the inhabited region called Palestine and try to make it an issue by asking what Palestine is called in arabic, as if it even proves a point. Palestine is called Felestin/Filistin by Arabs, so what? And dont forget that they drink Bebsi too.

Edited April 27, 2015 by BKKBobby