Chao Lao Beach Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 So the solution to the problem is to use public funds to buy back unwanted tickets??? Does not sound like a practical, fair and long term solution to me. In fact it sounds crazy. They are REFUNDING tickets that have not been sold. Where are they using ''public funds'' as you mention? Before or after the numbers are selected ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastguy Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Why not take the tickets off the streets & make customers buy a "lucky dip" type ticket from high street shops such as 7/11, Lotus, or even larger supermrkets etc using counter services ?? The shop makes a percent per ticket sold & nothing to be returned. Tickets would be automatically recorded via a link to the lottery center. Why should you bring logic into this thread ?? Sincere apologies..... I almost forgot where I was T.I.T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 How about refunding loosing tickets...I bet this would be very popular... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 So the solution to the problem is to use public funds to buy back unwanted tickets??? Does not sound like a practical, fair and long term solution to me. In fact it sounds crazy. how long has it taken them to work out that the current system doesn't work, time to move on and get with the 21st century, deploy a proper electronic networked system like every other country on the planet has, profit the government makes can be pushed back into the community on various projects for the betterment of all, also a 5 number system with more wins would be better suited to Thailand rather than the rollover US UK and Euro system resulting in people winning huge single payouts they have no clue what to do with It's going to happen eventually so just get on with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilymat Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 The only legal gambling in Thailand!I thought it was also legal to gamble at the horse races in Bsngkok. ...and I think I read somewhere that it was legal to gamble on the outcome of a Thai boxing match - providing you were on the premises. Could be wrong of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 General the buy back is a good idea but augment it with a retail venue like 70-11 Get them selling the lottery tickets at 80 baht and watch all the venders quickly follow suite . This is called "market force" and within 6 months your problem of over priced tickets will disappear . No one will buy tickets from street venders for more that 80 baht if 7-11 is selling then for that . This is called capitalism and it works 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 he is running the country, the army, the lottery board, and what will be next? Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 the Saviour Yes, most Farangs with brains know he is a saviour... all you liver bellied, middle of the road ,liberalist, almost evangelical Red Shirt sympathisers, pull your socks up... Prayuth is here to stay... If you don't like it...There's the <deleted> door.. Rock on Cha-o-cha..... I guess you must be one of the yellow shirts. Right????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 General the buy back is a good idea but augment it with a retail venue like 70-11 Get them selling the lottery tickets at 80 baht and watch all the venders quickly follow suite . This is called "market force" and within 6 months your problem of over priced tickets will disappear . No one will buy tickets from street venders for more that 80 baht if 7-11 is selling then for that . This is called capitalism and it works Right on man, screw the disabled sellers...I want to save myself 20 Baht... The disabled can eat cake.Starve for all I care.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Since Thailand has solved all its other national issues there is plenty of time for the PM to be chairman of the lottery board. This must be one of Thailand's most pressing issues, considering the amount of concern the PM is showing for it. Also it is brilliant to lower the cost of the tickets, so people who couldn't afford to throw their money away, now can. And the money earned goes towards helping these people who can't afford, or are addicted to gambling, to find a way to quit. I think they they should lower the price even more to get even more poor people gambling so they can help them quit too. Does anyone remember the closing scene of "Air America" with Mel Gibson and Robert Downey Jr. Mel won the lottery and Robert was deported for rigging the lottery. The Thai lottery has been rigged for as long as I can remember at that is 45 years but then again I believe it is rigged in every country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 the Saviour Yes, most Farangs with brains know he is a saviour... all you liver bellied, middle of the road ,liberalist, almost evangelical Red Shirt sympathisers, pull your socks up... Prayuth is here to stay... If you don't like it...There's the <deleted> door.. Rock on Cha-o-cha..... Liver bellied?????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phoenixdoglover Posted May 2, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2015 the Saviour Yes, most Farangs with brains know he is a saviour... all you liver bellied, middle of the road ,liberalist, almost evangelical Red Shirt sympathisers, pull your socks up... Prayuth is here to stay... If you don't like it...There's the <deleted> door.. Rock on Cha-o-cha..... Liver bellied?????? I think he means "lily livered". Or maybe not. TVF is a hotbed of malapropisms. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahkit Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 the Saviour Yes, most Farangs with brains know he is a saviour... all you liver bellied, middle of the road ,liberalist, almost evangelical Red Shirt sympathisers, pull your socks up... Prayuth is here to stay... If you don't like it...There's the <deleted> door.. Rock on Cha-o-cha..... Liver bellied?????? I was scratching my head over that one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahkit Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Since Thailand has solved all its other national issues there is plenty of time for the PM to be chairman of the lottery board. This must be one of Thailand's most pressing issues, considering the amount of concern the PM is showing for it. Also it is brilliant to lower the cost of the tickets, so people who couldn't afford to throw their money away, now can. And the money earned goes towards helping these people who can't afford, or are addicted to gambling, to find a way to quit. I think they they should lower the price even more to get even more poor people gambling so they can help them quit too. No need to lower the price, poor people have always been able to gamble on the lottery in some form. The underground version will accept as little as 10 baht for a 2 digit number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyrobot Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 How can a PM be head of the goverment lottery? Can't he deligate the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 The only legal gambling in Thailand!I thought it was also legal to gamble at the horse races in Bsngkok. The only legal gambling in Thailand!I thought it was also legal to gamble at the horse races in Bsngkok. ...and I think I read somewhere that it was legal to gamble on the outcome of a Thai boxing match - providing you were on the premises. Could be wrong of course. Yes, betting at the track and at some boxing is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 So the solution to the problem is to use public funds to buy back unwanted tickets??? Does not sound like a practical, fair and long term solution to me. In fact it sounds crazy. Actually, it is a very sensible idea - similar to newspaper producers buying back their copies of unsold print. They just have to ensure that the lottery ticket vendors are given a sensible amount of tickets in the first place in order to satisfy demand but not lead to over supply. They should run out of tickets at some point or just return a handful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Why are these people so incompetent ... this issue has gone on for far too long There is an easy solution - 1- only sell tickets thru online machines 2- stop selling en masse to wholesellers - 5 tigers The only reason I can see that this has not been solved is that the people in power are too scared to do something The must be too scared of the reprecussions of stopping certain peoples easy gravy train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 So the solution to the problem is to use public funds to buy back unwanted tickets??? Does not sound like a practical, fair and long term solution to me. In fact it sounds crazy. Actually, it is a very sensible idea - similar to newspaper producers buying back their copies of unsold print. They just have to ensure that the lottery ticket vendors are given a sensible amount of tickets in the first place in order to satisfy demand but not lead to over supply. They should run out of tickets at some point or just return a handful. Other than newspaper orgs are private companies and the GLO is Government/public money......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) So the solution to the problem is to use public funds to buy back unwanted tickets??? Does not sound like a practical, fair and long term solution to me. In fact it sounds crazy. Actually, it is a very sensible idea - similar to newspaper producers buying back their copies of unsold print. They just have to ensure that the lottery ticket vendors are given a sensible amount of tickets in the first place in order to satisfy demand but not lead to over supply. They should run out of tickets at some point or just return a handful. Other than newspaper orgs are private companies and the GLO is Government/public money......... But it illustrates the methodology. Didn't the 600 billion baht lost by Yingluck come out of the public finances? I'm sure that the buy back of unsold lottery tickets won't cost that much!! Actually, it won't cost the tax payers a single baht as all it means is that the government will make slightly less than the (not less than) 20% it currently makes and the vendors should benefit also as well as the buyers of tickets not being ripped off, so cheers all round!!. Edited May 2, 2015 by lucky11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolabuff Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 It's been a year and he still hasn't figured out the lottery, his number one task. Obviously (as everyone else has mentioned), they should just sell the tickets in 7/11 etc.. makes you wonder who is making that 20 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampdonkey Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 So the solution to the problem is to use public funds to buy back unwanted tickets??? Does not sound like a practical, fair and long term solution to me. In fact it sounds crazy.They are REFUNDING tickets that have not been sold. Where are they using ''public funds'' as you mention? Will they refund the 80 baht they should cost, or the 120 baht they sometimes charge? Neither , they will be refunding what the vendors paid for them . The 80 baht price tag already includes the commission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 So the solution to the problem is to use public funds to buy back unwanted tickets??? Does not sound like a practical, fair and long term solution to me. In fact it sounds crazy. Actually, it is a very sensible idea - similar to newspaper producers buying back their copies of unsold print. They just have to ensure that the lottery ticket vendors are given a sensible amount of tickets in the first place in order to satisfy demand but not lead to over supply. They should run out of tickets at some point or just return a handful. Other than newspaper orgs are private companies and the GLO is Government/public money......... But it illustrates the methodology. Didn't the 600 billion baht lost by Yingluck come out of the public finances? I'm sure that the buy back of unsold lottery tickets won't cost that much!! Actually, it won't cost the tax payers a single baht as all it means is that the government will make slightly less than the (not less than) 20% it currently makes and the vendors should benefit also as well as the buyers of tickets not being ripped off, so cheers all round!!. No,it illustrates awful methodology, and is irrelevant to YS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Is this really such an important issue among all the problems Thailand is facing that dictatorial rules must be invoked? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaveE13 Posted May 2, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2015 how about sacking all the high ranking immagration/millitary officers involved in selling these poor people being sold to human traffickers!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Prayut is now the new chairman of the Government Lottery Office. Does this mean he gets another salary too? He is also Chairman of the Superboard for State Enterprises. Is that yet another paid position? Add his salary as Chief of NCPO and as PM, Prayut not only does the work of many people but would seem to get paid as many people. And of course this is all aside from his position as a director on a nnumber of the nation's corporate Board of Directors and military retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 I thought ticket prices were supposed to come down? still 110 here in Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Invoking Section 44 of the interim constitution, General Prayut Chan-ocha, in his capacity as head of the National Council for Peace and Order, ordered the sacking of the board of the Government Lottery Office and setting up a new board with him as the new chairman. This is one sector of the government that has been plagued by corruption ... pretty much like the rest of gov. Will Prayut be any different? Is he corrupt? Of course these questions remain unanswered as Prayut, like all those in power, refuse to be transparent in their dealings. Prayut continuously talks about eradicating corruption but it's all smoke and mirrors and nobody is every really bought to justice. Until Prayut is willing to be transparent then any effort he makes to root out corruption will fail and he'll be yet another to go down in the Thai history books as a miserable failure with unexplained excessive wealth. Yes Mr. Article 44 stands to make a bundle. Are not most lotteries run buy a monopoly ? The monopoly runs like a corporation running off of 10% profits then sends everything else do government coffers . Is that not the way to do it ? Why does the Thai government do it so inefficiently ? Must be Thainess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post car720 Posted May 2, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2015 the Saviour Yes, most Farangs with brains know he is a saviour... all you liver bellied, middle of the road ,liberalist, almost evangelical Red Shirt sympathisers, pull your socks up... Prayuth is here to stay... If you don't like it...There's the <deleted> door.. Rock on Cha-o-cha..... Liver bellied?????? I think he means "lily livered". Or maybe not. TVF is a hotbed of malapropisms. but malapropisms are beyond my apprehension. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveE13 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) i like mash and onion gravy with my "liver belly" yumm but i dont think i could eat a middle of the road liberist though bit chewy. Edited May 2, 2015 by DaveE13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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