jesimps Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Pure propaganda ! Interesting, and you base this on what facts? Got any official tourist arrival figures you can produce? Anything tangible to back up your statement. Anything at all, but don't say "I stayed at a hotel and the room next to me was empty so the tourist numbers have gone down". That was used already on TVF and quite frankly is embarrassing that they have to resort to that to back up their "Pure Propaganda" statement. So without further adu......I look forward to your facts. It should be obvious even to you that a totalitarian government, that doesn't allow conflicting information into the public domain, will massage the figures to suit themselves. There are no facts here, just make believe figures to make the regime look like the bog's dollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 300,000 Thai Americans that come back home every 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirton Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Goodness me. You don't need to have confidence when looking at official tourist arrival figures. If anything the govt are being a bit reserved in their prediction. FACTS...Gotto love em. What Thai Government agency operating under the current administration is the source of these alleged facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Pure propaganda ! Interesting, and you base this on what facts? Got any official tourist arrival figures you can produce? Anything tangible to back up your statement. Anything at all, but don't say "I stayed at a hotel and the room next to me was empty so the tourist numbers have gone down". That was used already on TVF and quite frankly is embarrassing that they have to resort to that to back up their "Pure Propaganda" statement. So without further adu......I look forward to your facts. It should be obvious even to you that a totalitarian government, that doesn't allow conflicting information into the public domain, will massage the figures to suit themselves. There are no facts here, just make believe figures to make the regime look like the bog's dollocks. I agree with you but there is no attempt to censor Thai access to international media. You'd have to be a loony bird not to fact check with the international media or TV news poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sing_Sling Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Maybe there should be a little communication between them to identify target markets, develop effective marketing strategies for exploiting them, and setting up some intelligent KPI instead of just arrival numbers to monitor success? y Sorry, but the idea of strategies on the behalf of the TAT is laughable. I work in the industry, mostly government work for two other ASEAN countries and looking at the level of professionalism in Thailand is cringeworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigpoint Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) just landed back in swampy, through immigration In 5 mins, a few years back you could add 40 mins to that, mainly Koreans Chinese, Japanese, not so many westerners. So just the usual b/s from tat. Edited August 12, 2015 by metisdead Corrected the slur for Japanese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Some nonsense posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker1 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 "More than 17 million tourists have visited the country, spending around 818 billion baht during their stay. The government believed there would be more tourists arriving in the country than what the Ministry of Tourism and Sports has projected by 1 million people." I have always suspected that the figures provided by Tourism and Sports were inflated and now the Government is inflating them more ? Not sure how many foreigners are living here, but if the figure is 1,000,000 and 50% of them need to cross the border every three months to re-validate their visa's then 2,000,000 of those tourists are not really TOURIST'S ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker1 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 "More than 17 million tourists have visited the country, spending around 818 billion baht during their stay. The government believed there would be more tourists arriving in the country than what the Ministry of Tourism and Sports has projected by 1 million people." I have always suspected that the figures provided by Tourism and Sports were inflated and now the Government is inflating them more ? Not sure how many foreigners are living here, but if the figure is 1,000,000 and 50% of them need to cross the border every three months to re-validate their visa's then 2,000,000 of those tourists are not really TOURIST'S ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonbridgebrit Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Don't count your chickens..........Re weakening THB,offset by devaluation of yuan, regards Worgeordie yuan devalued 2% after it increased value 15%.... And another 1.6% today with rumors of more to come....biggest drop in a long time. Yes, but even if the yuan was to devalue a total of 20% against the dollar, it would still mean that Pattaya has loads of Chinese tourists ! Nothing is going to cause a mass reduction in the number of Chinese tourists in Pattaya, or Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonbridgebrit Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Maybe there should be a little communication between them to identify target markets, develop effective marketing strategies for exploiting them, and setting up some intelligent KPI instead of just arrival numbers to monitor success? y Sorry, but the idea of strategies on the behalf of the TAT is laughable. I work in the industry, mostly government work for two other ASEAN countries and looking at the level of professionalism in Thailand is cringeworthy Which two other ASEAN countries are you talking about ? Okay, lets look at GDP per person in the ASEAN countries. Yes, Singapore and Malaysia have GDPs per person that are higher than Thailand's. But, oh look. Burma, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Phillipines, Indonesia, they have all got GDPs per person that are considerably lower than Thailand. Basically, if you look at the entire population of ASEAN, GDP per person and average income per person in Thailand is actually pretty good. Please note that Singapore's high GDP per person has almost zero impact on ASEAN's average GDP per person. That's because Singapore's population is almost insignificant. If the people of Vietnam and the Phillipines are much more 'professional' than the Thais, yes, Vietnam and the Phillipines might catch up with Thailand's GDP per person in about twenty years time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Trends/Asia-s-star-holiday-industry-loses-its-shine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I think that somebody must have put some "magic mushrooms" in the staff canteen food at Govt. house. They are seriously deluding themselves if they think that tourism will be up this year They are in charge of counting sooo they can arbitrarily set the numbers. How about 30 million for a nice round number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Hey! Maybe the government is right as I am also planning to spend a few weeks in Thailand this Winter. I am not sure where they got the 300,000 Americans, but maybe that will be the bunch on R and R from the Middle East as they continue to go after ISIL there. I just hope the Canadian Dollar will recover a bit before I go, or else the Baht will lower a bit yet. Guess time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajtom Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Maybe a little to confident Firstly they may want to realign there counter parts, in the system of love Immigartion need a swift kick in the ass and meal restrictions for burning the falangs and treating them like garbage... The word traveled fast and now your left with empty buses loud Chinese that no one wants So yes it may pay to think positive although your far from repair son Hey spray some Indians white and pretend......................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajtom Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Goodness me. You don't need to have confidence when looking at official tourist arrival figures. If anything the govt are being a bit reserved in their prediction. FACTS...Gotto love em. Absolute bullshit LOL...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Those damn Americans. Such hypocrites. First they criticize you. Then they come and spend money in your country. Not to mention us persky type Yanks that are retired, live here full time and spend a fair amount of cash each month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Forecast, predict, guess, wish, hope, pray...often used here and of questionable credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Don't count your chickens..........Re weakening THB,offset by devaluation of yuan, regards Worgeordie yuan devalued 2% after it increased value 15%.... And another 1.6% today with rumors of more to come....biggest drop in a long time. Yes, but even if the yuan was to devalue a total of 20% against the dollar, it would still mean that Pattaya has loads of Chinese tourists ! Nothing is going to cause a mass reduction in the number of Chinese tourists in Pattaya, or Thailand. I think the devaluation is part of more serious trouble in China. Hard to figure out what's going on there as the media is tightly controlled, but the stock market has hurt millions and the economy is probably only doing 4% growth or so. Some actually say there is no growth. Either way, it's not enough to keep up with population growth. Troubles like these keep travelers home. But so far! There are still a bunch here in Pattaya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 If tourism can sustain 100% of GDP growth, who needs a 33-member Cabinet and PM? All Thailand needs is a Minister of Tourism to run the country and police to keep unruly and impolite tourists in line. Immigration can report to the Minister of Tourism. Collapse the size and cost of the Thai government by 90%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I hear some are due this morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 300,000 more Americans; that would be 60,000 monthly for the next 5 months. I'll believe those numbers. The word 'more' gets people confused, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirton Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Pure propaganda ! Interesting, and you base this on what facts? Got any official tourist arrival figures you can produce? Anything tangible to back up your statement. Anything at all, but don't say "I stayed at a hotel and the room next to me was empty so the tourist numbers have gone down". That was used already on TVF and quite frankly is embarrassing that they have to resort to that to back up their "Pure Propaganda" statement. So without further adu......I look forward to your facts. It should be obvious even to you that a totalitarian government, that doesn't allow conflicting information into the public domain, will massage the figures to suit themselves. There are no facts here, just make believe figures to make the regime look like the bog's dollocks. Perhaps the current administration has been around long enough that we can create Prayut's Law: All Government facts are fiction till proved otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirton Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Goodness me. You don't need to have confidence when looking at official tourist arrival figures. If anything the govt are being a bit reserved in their prediction. FACTS...Gotto love em. Still waiting more than a day later for the source of your "facts". You're not going to say TAT is your source, are you? You would never recover on ThaiVisa from that. I'll hang it up and see what tomorrow brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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