UDD to ask NCPO for permission to announce its objection to draft charter



BANGKOK: -- The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) will seek permission from the National Council for Peace and Order to give a press conference to announce its opposition to the draft constitution.

UDD chairman Jatuporn Promphan said Tuesday that the UDD would exercise its right to free expression in the same way as Mr Suthep Thuagsuban, chairman of the Foundation for the Mass for National Reform or former leader of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), publicly announced the support of the draft charter.

Since Mr Suthep and his allies have the right to express their view on the draft charter, he said that other political groups should have the right to express their opinions in accordance with democratic principle.

The UDD leader claimed that there were two groups of National Reform Council members who are opposed to the draft charter – one group is genuinely opposed to the draft because of its unacceptable content and the other group has hidden agenda to retain their status quo.

On the surface of it, Jatuporn said Mr Suthep appered to be supportive of the draft charter. But deep down, it might be used as an excuse for the NRC to vote down the draft.

Personally, Jatuporn said he would prefer the people to decide on the fate of the charter.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/udd-to-ask-ncpo-for-permission-to-announce-its-objection-to-draft-charter


-- Thai PBS 2015-09-02

Why is this person still allowed to speak?..........The reds must love him, but they definately don't get it!

I fail to see a problem with them as individuals expressing an opinion of how they would vote or whether they support the new constitution or not, it is however a different matter if they use their propaganda machine to start a campaign

I fail to see a problem with them as individuals expressing an opinion of how they would vote or whether they support the new constitution or not, it is however a different matter if they use their propaganda machine to start a campaign

" it is however a different matter if they use their propaganda machine to start a campaign"

And those who constructed this Charter are not engaging in propaganda campaign promoting it?

Is one side opinion, the other side propaganda?

Why is this person still allowed to speak?..........The reds must love him, but they definately don't get it!

"The reds must love him, but they definitely don't get it!"

This hits the nail on the head. And is why the powers-that-be are desperate to control this thing.....The Reds,PTP and others from the pro-Democracy side definitely "Get it"

This person arguably has a greater following and political influence, than almost anyone on the other side of the political divide. That is why denying him the right to speak, speaks volumes.

Why is this person still allowed to speak?..........The reds must love him, but they definately don't get it!

What do you mean? Are you suggesting only positive critique of the draft constitution should be allowed, or are you objecting merely to this particular individual being allowed to express his opinion? Much as I disagree with the opinions of some people, I'm not sure it would be good for the long term health of the country to suppress dissent, disagreement, or differing opinions.

I fail to see a problem with them as individuals expressing an opinion of how they would vote or whether they support the new constitution or not, it is however a different matter if they use their propaganda machine to start a campaign

" it is however a different matter if they use their propaganda machine to start a campaign"

And those who constructed this Charter are not engaging in propaganda campaign promoting it?

Is one side opinion, the other side propaganda?

I think those that wrote it are entitled to answer questions if required, you see that as propaganda lol

Why is this person still allowed to speak?..........The reds must love him, but they definately don't get it!

It is Suthep who should be stopped and not allowed to speak in public, it is Suthep who start ones more the problems,

Lets hope not, but if violence will ever get back on the streets, its Suthep who is responsible !

If Suthep would not be allowed to speak yesterday, this UDD would not even think about it.

I fail to see a problem with them as individuals expressing an opinion of how they would vote or whether they support the new constitution or not, it is however a different matter if they use their propaganda machine to start a campaign

" it is however a different matter if they use their propaganda machine to start a campaign"

And those who constructed this Charter are not engaging in propaganda campaign promoting it?

Is one side opinion, the other side propaganda?

Yes when one side is well known for demagogy and violence and are paid by a wannabe dictator

Why is this person still allowed to speak?..........The reds must love him, but they definately don't get it!

"The reds must love him, but they definitely don't get it!"

This hits the nail on the head. And is why the powers-that-be are desperate to control this thing.....The Reds,PTP and others from the pro-Democracy side definitely "Get it"

This person arguably has a greater following and political influence, than almost anyone on the other side of the political divide. That is why denying him the right to speak, speaks volumes.

you are mixing up pro-democracy and anti-democracy.

I fail to see a problem with them as individuals expressing an opinion of how they would vote or whether they support the new constitution or not, it is however a different matter if they use their propaganda machine to start a campaign

" it is however a different matter if they use their propaganda machine to start a campaign"

And those who constructed this Charter are not engaging in propaganda campaign promoting it?

Is one side opinion, the other side propaganda?

Yes when one side is well known for demagogy and violence and are paid by a wannabe dictator

Yes, and the other side is squeeky clean!

UDD to ask NCPO for permission to announce its objection to draft charter

This should be fun to watch....

It is sad situation where they have to actually ask permission.

I look forward to the measly excuse the junta will give for letting their little lap dog lick their boots in public but will shoot the reds down.

The reds have had their day IMO, but the junta seem to be doing the opposite of reconciliation. Let's see how they play this one out.

I look forward to the measly excuse the junta will give for letting their little lap dog lick their boots in public but will shoot the reds down.

The reds have had their day IMO, but the junta seem to be doing the opposite of reconciliation. Let's see how they play this one out.

This was never about reconciliation, just control.

UDD to ask NCPO for permission to announce its objection to draft charter

This should be fun to watch....

Usual UDD approach - one leader ask for permission while another says he'll do it anyway "accepting the consequences" - which he normally shoves onto other "less equal" members.

Nothing wrong with anyone expressing a view. Everything wrong with the Shin paramilitaries cranking up the hyperbolic rhetoric and organizing one of their "beating the war drum" meetings.

Those who think these undemocratic self/patron appointed leaders are remotely interested in anything other than getting back in control of the trough can delude themselves if they wish.

How is Jat and Nat's (sound like children's TV clowns) criminal trial progressing? Wonder if they will breach terms of the bail this time?

Why is this person still allowed to speak?..........The reds must love him, but they definitely don't get it!

It is Suthep who should be stopped and not allowed to speak in public, it is Suthep who start ones more the problems,

Lets hope not, but if violence will ever get back on the streets, its Suthep who is responsible !

If Suthep would not be allowed to speak yesterday, this UDD would not even think about it.

It is not often that I agree with you but it IS Suthep's fault for speaking out. It is one of his more stupid ideas (and there have been quite a few).

A quote for Suthep to ponder on.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

Abraham Lincoln

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/abrahamlin109276.html#7It9BK8jriG1zBuJ.99

Unfortunately it is almost impossible for Suthep to remain silent as it is not in his nature, nor Jatuporn's come to think about it.

Perhaps Suthep deliberately spoke out to provoke the UDD and Jatuporn and create a problem for the government, that I have no idea but it is not beyond the grounds of possibility.

I believe that Jatuporn and only he should be given the right to reply as it was only Suthep and not the PDRC who caused the problem. After that BOTH of them should be warned that if it happens again, WHOEVER does it will spend a little time in jail with NO appeal.

Both of them are rabble-rousers and are equally as bad as each other.

UDD to ask NCPO for permission to announce its objection to draft charter

This should be fun to watch....

Usual UDD approach - one leader ask for permission while another says he'll do it anyway "accepting the consequences" - which he normally shoves onto other "less equal" members.

Nothing wrong with anyone expressing a view. Everything wrong with the Shin paramilitaries cranking up the hyperbolic rhetoric and organizing one of their "beating the war drum" meetings.

Those who think these undemocratic self/patron appointed leaders are remotely interested in anything other than getting back in control of the trough can delude themselves if they wish.

How is Jat and Nat's (sound like children's TV clowns) criminal trial progressing? Wonder if they will breach terms of the bail this time?

Of course it's about getting back into the trough, but the present regime cannot allow Suthep to hold meetings and press conferences and prevent the reds from doing the same without losing whatever credibility they have left (which is none IMO).

Slowly I understand what they mean with "Thai style democracy" one has to ask permission to have a different opinion...

This thread turns pathetic..... Like nobody should have the right to express opinions on the proposed charter!

On principle, Suthep and the others should have the right to express opinions about it. Not just because one started and the other should be allowed too.....

We've heard Thaksin's opinion. Why do we need his paid stooges to repeat it?

We've heard Thaksin's opinion. Why do we need his paid stooges to repeat it?

Talking about paid stooges...Who pays Abhisit and Suthep?

And why do we need the anti-democrat Suthep to repeat this mantra.

I say this with some trepidation, knowing Abhisit is sacrosanct here.

But as they say, what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

We've heard Thaksin's opinion. Why do we need his paid stooges to repeat it?

We've heard the Dear Leader's opinion on this. Why do we need to hear it from his lap dogs?

UDD to ask NCPO for permission to announce its objection to draft charter

This should be fun to watch....

Usual UDD approach - one leader ask for permission while another says he'll do it anyway "accepting the consequences" - which he normally shoves onto other "less equal" members.

Nothing wrong with anyone expressing a view. Everything wrong with the Shin paramilitaries cranking up the hyperbolic rhetoric and organizing one of their "beating the war drum" meetings.

Those who think these undemocratic self/patron appointed leaders are remotely interested in anything other than getting back in control of the trough can delude themselves if they wish.

How is Jat and Nat's (sound like children's TV clowns) criminal trial progressing? Wonder if they will breach terms of the bail this time?

"How is Jat and Nat's (sound like children's TV clowns) criminal trial progressing? Wonder if they will breach terms of the bail this time?"

How about "Abhi and Sut". (sounds like a comedy show from the 30's)

I wonder of they will ever see the inside of a jail for you-know-what in 2010.

But I am treading on some sensitive toe's here. Mr. Abhisit is sacrosanct to many here.

Such respect is not afforded to his opposites by the way. Never mind the electoral majority who have expressed themselves clearly, but differently, depending on which side they cast their votes...The results are there for all to see. Their's is not idle talk..

UDD to ask NCPO for permission to announce its objection to draft charter

This should be fun to watch....

I agree tb, this should be fun to watch.

The other thing that is fun to watch is reading all the bleeding heart comments by posters who plead on other topics that they are in fact not red supporters.

Some of them just can't help themselves !

We've heard Thaksin's opinion. Why do we need his paid stooges to repeat it?

Talking about paid stooges...Who pays Abhisit and Suthep?

And why do we need the anti-democrat Suthep to repeat this mantra.

I say this with some trepidation, knowing Abhisit is sacrosanct here.

But as they say, what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

"anti-democrat Suthep" ??? Wow ! Brings back memories of Bannum Opinions.

We've heard Thaksin's opinion. Why do we need his paid stooges to repeat it?

Talking about paid stooges...Who pays Abhisit and Suthep?

And why do we need the anti-democrat Suthep to repeat this mantra.

I say this with some trepidation, knowing Abhisit is sacrosanct here.

But as they say, what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

I have no idea. Do YOU?

I suspect that Abhisit is paid by the Democrat party and has money of his own and from what I can understand about Suthep money is the least of his problems.

You could ask the same question about Jatuporn and all the democratically "non-elected" leaders of the UDD.

I have no idea who pays them either. Do you?