UK: Corbyn calls for ‘a kinder politics’ in first party conference speech as Labour leader

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UK: Corbyn calls for ‘a kinder politics’ in first party conference speech as Labour leader



LONDON: -- He promised to shake up the UK’s political system. And on Tuesday, in his first party conference speech as new Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn delivered.

There was no apology for the Iraq war just yet, as some had predicted, but the veteran left-winger was scathing about it and Britain’s possession of nuclear weapons – arguments that helped him come from nowhere to secure a landslide leadership win earlier this month.

“What happened this summer in the Labour leadership election was nothing short of a political earthquake,” he told delegates to the annual conference in the southern English city of Brighton

“According to the script, Socialists and Social Democratic parties were in decline. Social Democracy itself was dead on its feet. Yet something new, invigorating, popular and authentic has exploded.”

Corbyn, 66, pledged to listen to the thousands of new members who have joined Labour since he ran for leader, many of them younger voters disillusioned with establishment politics.

He said he would challenge the Conservative government’s austerity policies, accusing
David Cameron’s administration of favouring the rich and squandering the UK’s weight in global affairs by offering “fawning support” to foreign governments which crush democratic rights.

After controversy over Corbyn’s decision not to sing the National Anthem at a World War Two remembrance service this month, he defended his patriotic credentials and issued a call for kindness.

“It is that sense of fair play, those shared majority values in Britain that are a fundamental reason why I love this country and its people,” Corbyn said.

“These are the values I was elected on. A kinder politics, a more caring society, these are Labour values, they are our country’s values and we are going to put these values back into the heart of politics in this country.”

Doing things differently went down well among those loyal to Britain’s main opposition party, in a speech that saw much applause and standing ovations.

But the Corbyn factor will have to please the broader electorate if Labour, badly beaten in May’s general election, is to ever return to power.


-- (c) Copyright Euronews 2015-09-30

[JAG]

Does this " kinder politics" include support for the IRA and the various other murderous terrorist organizations which he has consistently espoused?

[rufanuf]

What an idiot

[phutoie2]

Does this " kinder politics" include support for the IRA and the various other murderous terrorist organizations which he has consistently espoused?

I do believe that one HM Queen was recently seen to shake the hand of the former commander of the Derry IRA brigade.

The ThaiVisa Daily Mail right wing nut jobs will be all over this topic. Cracking speech JC.

[JAG]

Does this " kinder politics" include support for the IRA and the various other murderous terrorist organizations which he has consistently espoused?

I do believe that one HM Queen was recently seen to shake the hand of the former commander of the Derry IRA brigade.

The ThaiVisa Daily Mail right wing nut jobs will be all over this topic. Cracking speech JC.

Ah yes, the "Butchers Boy". He didn't get the nickname because that is how he started his working life!

An enthusiastic exponent of the use of an electric drill on the kneecaps of those who crossed him I believe. If I may paraphrase - cracking mates JC!

[Baerboxer]

Does this " kinder politics" include support for the IRA and the various other murderous terrorist organizations which he has consistently espoused?

He certainly advocates a united Ireland, and is apparently indifferent to the majority Ulster loyalists who do not want to leave the UK.

He is acquainted, on very friendly terms, with certain Moslem terrorist groups.

He wants to remove the UK's nuclear capability and reduce the armed forces to token home defense strength.

He's a throw back to the "loony left" who screwed the Labor Party up, and nearly the country, in the 70"s and led to Thatcherism.

Problem is many people will believe his " we'll give you a lot for nothing, take off the rich and give to you" spiel because it's what they'd like to believe.

If he ever gets into the PM role, with poison dwarf Sturgeon running Scotland, you can kiss the UK goodbye.

[darren84310]

Does this " kinder politics" include support for the IRA and the various other murderous terrorist organizations which he has consistently espoused?

I do believe that one HM Queen was recently seen to shake the hand of the former commander of the Derry IRA brigade.

The ThaiVisa Daily Mail right wing nut jobs will be all over this topic. Cracking speech JC.

LOL... Yes, cracking speech JC... Have you read the news today?... speech written in the 1980s by Richard Heller and rejected by every Labour leader since, also the bit where they denied that JC had copied the speech, but later had to admit to it... What great leadership potential this clown is showing in his biggest speech of his life... No imagination or ideas of his own if he can't even write something original for his first conference speech as leader.

He had plenty of time to prepare for that moment and decided to poach a 30 year old speech instead, and also try to pass it off as his own.

[abrahamzvi]

What an idiot

The trouble is that he is a dangerous idiot!

[SheungWan]

Whatever is this old class warrior burbling on about re 'kinder politics'?

Oh, and thanks for waking up night of the living dead ex-MP Dave Nellist.

[abrahamzvi]

Does this " kinder politics" include support for the IRA and the various other murderous terrorist organizations which he has consistently espoused?

I do believe that one HM Queen was recently seen to shake the hand of the former commander of the Derry IRA brigade.

The ThaiVisa Daily Mail right wing nut jobs will be all over this topic. Cracking speech JC.

I can only speak for myself, but I am by no means "right wing", rather a leftwinger. However, I do think that this man poses a danger to the left wing not only in the UK, but in the whole of Europe. If he is allowed tom stay as leader, he will ruin the Labour party and the only people happy to have him as Party Leader will be the Tories and people like Mdame Le Pen and her ilk.

[granuaile]

Love him, hopefully he will be the next PM in the UK and Bernie Sanders president of the USA.... That would be a great world...

[ourmanflint]

A great speech to hear from the Labour Party, it doesn't matter if the sentiments contained within it are the same as those from 30 years ago does it? Does the UK need Trident, no it doesn't, ask the average UK citizen if they would rather speak Russian or whatever language a purported invader would speak, or be nuked and I'm guessing they would rather live. Nuclear arms will never be used, and if they are it will be the end for all those involved, so no Trident is a complete waste, and anyone who thinks they are a deterrent is deluded.

Dodgy Dave is on his way to being the single most loathed prime minister the UK has ever seen, even surpassing Thatcher in the enmity he has unleashed in the British public. The time is right for JC.

[abrahamzvi]

Does this " kinder politics" include support for the IRA and the various other murderous terrorist organisations which he has consistently espoused?

He certainly advocates a united Ireland, and is apparently indifferent to the majority Ulster loyalists who do not want to leave the UK.

He is acquainted, on very friendly terms, with certain Moslem terrorist groups.

He wants to remove the UK's nuclear capability and reduce the armed forces to token home defence strength.

He's a throw back to the "loony left" who screwed the Labor Party up, and nearly the country, in the 70"s and led to Thatcherism.

Problem is many people will believe his " we'll give you a lot for nothing, take off the rich and give to you" spiel because it's what they'd like to believe.

If he ever gets into the PM role, with poison dwarf Sturgeon running Scotland, you can kiss the UK goodbye.

He will never become PM in the UK. The British people have too much sense . I agree with most of what you say, but would add that the "loony left" (a term I disagree with) were decent and honest people as opposed to Croydon. He befriended a Holocaust denier and recently said he didn't know that. He led the republican movement (with which I completely disagree) but now he says, this is not one of his priorities. Is that an honest leader???And these are only two examples of his "honesty", there are many more.

[phitsanulokjohn]

He can call for what he likes, but the truth of the matter is that neither him nor his party will see the limelight for many years to come in the uk.

[Jingthing]

His friendly embrace of Hezbollah and Hamas would be a deal breaker for me ...

[phutoie2]

He can call for what he likes, but the truth of the matter is that neither him nor his party will see the limelight for many years to come in the uk.

I wouldn't bank on that, no one gave the Welsh a chance at Twickers.

[Jingthing]

I suppose as the Tories have gone more left and captured the majority, that Labour needs to go into wacky time lefty town just to be different.

[phutoie2]

I suppose as the Tories have gone more left and captured the majority, that Labour needs to go into wacky time lefty town just to be different.

I wouldn't give too much credence to what the UK right wing press say about him. The Torygraph in particular are running daily hatchet jobs on him.

Corbyn gave an insightful interview with BBC radio 4 yesterday, must admit he does comes across as one of my old English Lit teachers, but I can see how he will appeal to the young voters etc.

Remember in the UK we have had very socialist governments before, not the war criminal Blair and his New Labour, but Harold Wilson, Clement Atlee. God knows how many Brits would have been killed if it was not for Wilson keeping us out of the Vietnam war.

[Steely Dan]

His friendly embrace of Hezbollah and Hamas would be a deal breaker for me ...

His speech to Labour friends of Israel did not include the word Israel even once. There is no way his views can be spun as being acceptable, except of course to the far left who no doubt heartily approve.

http://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/Corbyn-speech-confirmed-worst-concerns-Labor-MK-says-419479?

The 66-year-old has held a pro-Palestinian stance since entering Parliament, specializing in delivering fierce and often very direct criticism of Israeli policies. One of the popular leaders of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, which calls for a boycott of Israel, his contributions to foreign affairs debates include diatribes about the behavior of Israeli troops and abuses of Palestinian human rights.

Corbyn in the past has called terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah "friends,” has invited to parliament known anti-Semites like the Islamic Movement Northern Branch leader Raed Salah, who has been convicted of terrorism in Israel and of spreading blood libels in the UK.

A gentle sort of politics eh? Soft on terrorists and holocaust deniers that is.

Edited September 30, 2015 by Steely Dan

[Jingthing]

Anyway, George Galloway must be happy!

[emilymat]

If anyone else is an original Star Trek student they may remember a particular episode.

The Enterprise was stranded in space by an alien craft and it was given "ten earth periods" called minutes before it would be destroyed. Of course, Captain Kirk was having none of this and he told Spock he was going to play 'poker' with the bad guys. So Uhura linked him up with 3 minutes to go and he told them. "Every Starship is equipped with a secret material that will automatically destroy the Enterprise and any attacker"

The bad guys backed down. In fact they turned out to be good guys. Spock was impressed by this game called 'poker' and Kirk was his usual modest self.

The name of the secret material? Corbynite. It will destroy us all.

Actually, I thought his speech was quite a good one, but, as a lifelong supporter of Labour I am not stupid enough to believe he can win over the large amount of British public to win in 2020. I also think he may well have been replaced long before that. Let's not forget, he will be 73/4 y 2020 and I think that is reaching the top level of age for the stress of the PM job.

I do not doubt his sincerity,

[Orac]

Anyway, George Galloway must be happy!

It will certainly give him a boost in his run for Major of London.

Corbyn has some questionable ideas but it will boil down to how the Conservatives manage the economy going into the next election - if they cock it up and Corbyn can offer some decent new thinking he might give them a close run.

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/corbyn-labour-progressive-economic-agenda-by-mariana-mazzucato-2015-09

[Pakboong]

His friendly embrace of Hezbollah and Hamas would be a deal breaker for me ...

His speech to Labour friends of Israel did not include the word Israel even once. There is no way his views can be spun as being acceptable, except of course to the far left who no doubt heartily approve.

http://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/Corbyn-speech-confirmed-worst-concerns-Labor-MK-says-419479?

The 66-year-old has held a pro-Palestinian stance since entering Parliament, specializing in delivering fierce and often very direct criticism of Israeli policies. One of the popular leaders of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, which calls for a boycott of Israel, his contributions to foreign affairs debates include diatribes about the behavior of Israeli troops and abuses of Palestinian human rights.

Corbyn in the past has called terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah "friends,” has invited to parliament known anti-Semites like the Islamic Movement Northern Branch leader Raed Salah, who has been convicted of terrorism in Israel and of spreading blood libels in the UK.

A gentle sort of politics eh? Soft on terrorists and holocaust deniers that is.

This would be a much better spot for the infamous Ann Coulter tweet from a couple of weeks ago.

[darren84310]

A great speech to hear from the Labour Party, it doesn't matter if the sentiments contained within it are the same as those from 30 years ago does it? Does the UK need Trident, no it doesn't, ask the average UK citizen if they would rather speak Russian or whatever language a purported invader would speak, or be nuked and I'm guessing they would rather live. Nuclear arms will never be used, and if they are it will be the end for all those involved, so no Trident is a complete waste, and anyone who thinks they are a deterrent is deluded.

Dodgy Dave is on his way to being the single most loathed prime minister the UK has ever seen, even surpassing Thatcher in the enmity he has unleashed in the British public. The time is right for JC.

Firstly... I think it does matter that in his first speech as leader in front of a Labour Conference, he didn't have the intelligence to devise something original. I think that says a lot about how good he will be when he has to think on his feet, when face to face with world leaders.

Secondly... If you think that Trident isn't a deterrent, well the whole idea is that it won't be needed.... if you want to go and negotiate with someone with a gun carrying only a knife, be my guest, because I sure wouldn't.

Nukes are always going to be around (or at least until something more efficient is made)... unfortunately, that's something that we all have to deal with.

[7by7]

Does this " kinder politics" include support for the IRA and the various other murderous terrorist organizations which he has consistently espoused?

I do believe that one HM Queen was recently seen to shake the hand of the former commander of the Derry IRA brigade.

The ThaiVisa Daily Mail right wing nut jobs will be all over this topic. Cracking speech JC.

Indeed she did, much to her distaste, I imagine. Not just because they spent decades murdering her people, but also on a personal level as they murdered her uncle.

But as a Constitutional Monarch she has to do what her government tells her, no matter how distasteful she may find it personally.

However, this was after the peace process; reconciliation is the name of the game now. (Something the Israelis could learn form, as they've somehow been dragged into this topic!).

Corbyn, though, was an IRA supporter while they were still murdering, 'disappearing' and kneecapping innocent people.

Most of his speech was meaningless waffle; not unusual for a politician of any persuasion.

For the specifics:-

Trident; do we still need it? Probably not.

Renationalise the railways? Should never have been privatised in the first place; ditto for electricity, gas and water.

Other than that, he's living in the past. All those people who suddenly joined Labour just before the leadership election in order to vote for him have ruined Labour's chances of forming a government for a very long time.

[Jingthing]

His friendly embrace of Hezbollah and Hamas would be a deal breaker for me ...

His speech to Labour friends of Israel did not include the word Israel even once. There is no way his views can be spun as being acceptable, except of course to the far left who no doubt heartily approve.

http://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/Corbyn-speech-confirmed-worst-concerns-Labor-MK-says-419479?

The 66-year-old has held a pro-Palestinian stance since entering Parliament, specializing in delivering fierce and often very direct criticism of Israeli policies. One of the popular leaders of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, which calls for a boycott of Israel, his contributions to foreign affairs debates include diatribes about the behavior of Israeli troops and abuses of Palestinian human rights.

Corbyn in the past has called terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah "friends,” has invited to parliament known anti-Semites like the Islamic Movement Northern Branch leader Raed Salah, who has been convicted of terrorism in Israel and of spreading blood libels in the UK.

A gentle sort of politics eh? Soft on terrorists and holocaust deniers that is.

This would be a much better spot for the infamous Ann Coulter tweet from a couple of weeks ago.

Silly and irrelevant deflection.

[hard124get]

His friendly embrace of Hezbollah and Hamas would be a deal breaker for me ...

His speech to Labour friends of Israel did not include the word Israel even once. There is no way his views can be spun as being acceptable, except of course to the far left who no doubt heartily approve.

http://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/Corbyn-speech-confirmed-worst-concerns-Labor-MK-says-419479?

The 66-year-old has held a pro-Palestinian stance since entering Parliament, specializing in delivering fierce and often very direct criticism of Israeli policies. One of the popular leaders of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, which calls for a boycott of Israel, his contributions to foreign affairs debates include diatribes about the behavior of Israeli troops and abuses of Palestinian human rights.

Corbyn in the past has called terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah "friends,” has invited to parliament known anti-Semites like the Islamic Movement Northern Branch leader Raed Salah, who has been convicted of terrorism in Israel and of spreading blood libels in the UK.

A gentle sort of politics eh? Soft on terrorists and holocaust deniers that is.

"The 66-year-old has held a pro-Palestinian stance since entering Parliament," Yes, this is why we love him !

[jacky54]

Many loved comrade Stalin

[Exsexyman]

Many loved comrade Stalin

Well, he has clearly got you a bit rattled, if you have to invoke the 'Stalin' reference. Which is good! Thankfully most people in the UK are starting to wise up to the puerile personal abuse, they are fed up to the back teeth with it. Jeremy Corbyn has torn up the rule book, it is hilarious seeing the Daily Mail and Sun journalists suddenly realizing that the days of being fed soundbites are over, they have to read the speech. And of course, like you, they haven't got a clue, hence the silly reference to Stalin. Yesterdays Daily Telegraph was hilarious, they lined up three commentators who clearly had written their appraisal of Corbyn's speech before he gave it, and yet more than 50% of their readers in the comment section approved of it. Watching them desperately trying to spin a positive slant on this was very funny. As was your 'Stalin' analogy. Keep it up!

[SheungWan]

Many loved comrade Stalin

Well, he has clearly got you a bit rattled, if you have to invoke the 'Stalin' reference. Which is good! Thankfully most people in the UK are starting to wise up to the puerile personal abuse, they are fed up to the back teeth with it. Jeremy Corbyn has torn up the rule book, it is hilarious seeing the Daily Mail and Sun journalists suddenly realizing that the days of being fed soundbites are over, they have to read the speech. And of course, like you, they haven't got a clue, hence the silly reference to Stalin. Yesterdays Daily Telegraph was hilarious, they lined up three commentators who clearly had written their appraisal of Corbyn's speech before he gave it, and yet more than 50% of their readers in the comment section approved of it. Watching them desperately trying to spin a positive slant on this was very funny. As was your 'Stalin' analogy. Keep it up!

Jeremy Corbyn comes more from the Orthodox Trotskyist wing of the Left so Stalin would probably have had him murdered if we threw our time machine crystal ball into the mix. However, the Orthodox Trots considered the USSR a Workers State right up until its demise after the Wall came down. The suggestion that Corbyn is something 'new' is just too hilarious for words.