Jonathan Fairfield Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Last train to Hungary: border closure with Croatia comes into effect The last train bringing migrants to Hungary pulled up on the Croatian side of the frontier just hours before new regulations came into effect. At midnight (October 16-17), Hungary sealed off the border with Croatia, leaving just two transit zones open for asylum applications. Up to 8,000 people who make the crossing daily may now be forced to alter their route. Hungary’s move to close its southern border with Croatia forms part of a unilateral crackdown on the flow of migrants to Europe. It closed off the frontier with Serbia in September, 2015. Many migrants attempting to reach Germany or Austria, face being diverted to Slovenia which, like Hungary, is a member of the Schengen Zone, allowing passport-free travel. “We are redirecting the corridor towards Slovenia,” said Ranko Ostojic, Croatia’s Interior Minister. “It means, of course, that we must respect all the rules, as there isn’t an agreement with the Slovenian side on a ‘Plan C,’ which is a Croatian plan. It is important that Slovenia accepts people who wish to migrate to Croatia, as long as Austria and Germany continue to receive migrants.” Official crossing points remain open to those wishing to apply for refugee status in Hungary. Wire fences have been already been erected between Hungary, Serbia and Croatia. Those attempting to breach the fences are put on trial and more often than not expelled from the country. Source: http://www.euronews.com/2015/10/17/lat-train-to-hungary-border-closure-with-croatia-comes-into-effect/ -- (c) Copyright Euronews 2015-10-17
piersbeckett Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 It looks to me like the Hungarians know too much to let the Muslims into their country; they know for instance that they don't integrate, they know that they put their religious law above the law of the land in Hungary and they know that the way of life they (the Hungarians) have worked so long and hard for will be compromised and they don't want to be usurped by a faith/political system they don't believe in. At present the number of Muslims in Hungary is such that the Hungarians don't feel threatened; I think that's the way they want to keep it.
steven100 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Hungary is smarter than the EU put together ...............
JetsetBkk Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Hungary is smarter than the EU put together ............... Not all the EU - only Merkel and a few other bleeding hearts.
NeverSure Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 ^^^ Who decided to have a borderless continent and an unelected (by the people) government which tries to override (used to be) sovereign nations? Who's bright idea was it to destroy Europe? Who is it that wanted this borderless Kumbaya world anyway?
farmerjo Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 ^^^ Who decided to have a borderless continent and an unelected (by the people) government which tries to override (used to be) sovereign nations? Who's bright idea was it to destroy Europe? Who is it that wanted this borderless Kumbaya world anyway? Nato
farmerjo Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Turkeys a member and their border is not so strong.
z42 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Good. Hopefully others will follow their lead. My sympathy wanes for them once they cross out of the 1st safe country
NeverSure Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Turkeys a member and their border is not so strong. I understand and a lot of other countries are members. I just don't get the connection. I see an EU issue. I'm an American but I think the EU sucks as no country should give up the sovereignty of its borders. Maybe they will all start learning something here. Some may learn right away and others may learn after it's too late... Cheers.
Credo Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Turkeys a member and their border is not so strong. I understand and a lot of other countries are members. I just don't get the connection. I see an EU issue. I'm an American but I think the EU sucks as no country should give up the sovereignty of its borders. Maybe they will all start learning something here. Some may learn right away and others may learn after it's too late... Cheers. There is greater strength in unity than in division, at least in theory. There are some very small countries in the EU and there existence is at the pleasure of larger neighbors. For them, the EU is a good deal. There are problems in any kind of geo-political construct such as the EU, UK or USA. The point is can they ultimately deal with the current situation and adapt to handle future problems in a constructive manner. The problem of refugees/immigrants is a huge one and affects many countries. The EU should be able to absorb the current wave, but it will take time. It may not be in their best interest to have these people, but there's not much they can do about it since returning a lot of them isn't going to be possible.
simple1 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Turkeys a member and their border is not so strong. I understand and a lot of other countries are members. I just don't get the connection. I see an EU issue. I'm an American but I think the EU sucks as no country should give up the sovereignty of its borders. Maybe they will all start learning something here. Some may learn right away and others may learn after it's too late... Cheers. Which EU country governments have legally rescinded the sovereignty of their borders? Edited October 17, 2015 by simple1
NeverSure Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 I understand and a lot of other countries are members. I just don't get the connection. I see an EU issue. I'm an American but I think the EU sucks as no country should give up the sovereignty of its borders. Maybe they will all start learning something here. Some may learn right away and others may learn after it's too late... Cheers. Which EU country governments have legally rescinded the sovereignty of their borders? I'm surprised that you haven't heard about the rights the people of those countries have to wander and live all over the place.
simple1 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) I understand and a lot of other countries are members. I just don't get the connection. I see an EU issue. I'm an American but I think the EU sucks as no country should give up the sovereignty of its borders. Maybe they will all start learning something here. Some may learn right away and others may learn after it's too late... Cheers. Which EU country governments have legally rescinded the sovereignty of their borders? I'm surprised that you haven't heard about the rights the people of those countries have to wander and live all over the place. The OP is not about citizens of EU countries and the fact is that no EU country has rescinded its laws for being responsible for their 'sovereign borders'. Edited October 18, 2015 by simple1
Alwyn Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 Turkeys a member and their border is not so strong. Turkey's a member? A member of what? Not the EU, there are 28 country members of the EU and Turkey isn't one of them. They've been blocked due to human rights issues, they've been trying for a decade to gain membership. In fact, the EU is trying to bribe Turkey with membership in exchange for stemming the refugee tide! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/11937537/EU-approves-Turkey-migrant-plan.html
thaibeachlovers Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 Turkeys a member and their border is not so strong. Turkey's a member? A member of what? Not the EU, there are 28 country members of the EU and Turkey isn't one of them. They've been blocked due to human rights issues, they've been trying for a decade to gain membership. In fact, the EU is trying to bribe Turkey with membership in exchange for stemming the refugee tide! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/11937537/EU-approves-Turkey-migrant-plan.html NATO
h90 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 Hungary is smarter than the EU put together ............... Not all the EU - only Merkel and a few other bleeding hearts. If there is a vote which country has the most stupid politicians, I want to nominate my country Austria.......we can be number 1 in something.....
h90 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 I understand and a lot of other countries are members. I just don't get the connection. I see an EU issue. I'm an American but I think the EU sucks as no country should give up the sovereignty of its borders. Maybe they will all start learning something here. Some may learn right away and others may learn after it's too late... Cheers. Which EU country governments have legally rescinded the sovereignty of their borders? I'm surprised that you haven't heard about the rights the people of those countries have to wander and live all over the place. The OP is not about citizens of EU countries and the fact is that no EU country has rescinded its laws for being responsible for their 'sovereign borders'. EU has mostly open borders (Schengen), no border control, you drive on the street and pass 3 countries without someone stop you or want to see your passport. You deliver products over the border without customs or duty. But of course politically the borders still exist.
connda Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 The nice thing about not being a member of the EU is that, as a sovereign state, you're free to close your borders. Can't blame them.
cookee68 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 all the others should do it as well, it is fast becoming a free for all, except us, its starting to get that your own country wont employ you in certain jobs if you only speak your native tongue, what the f@@k is that all about
blazes Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 Hungary is smarter than the EU put together ............... Not all the EU - only Merkel and a few other bleeding hearts. If there is a vote which country has the most stupid politicians, I want to nominate my country Austria.......we can be number 1 in something..... Oh, you didn't hear? Germany and Sweden are playing extra time in the World Migration Idiot Cup .
simple1 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 The nice thing about not being a member of the EU is that, as a sovereign state, you're free to close your borders. Can't blame them. EU countries can close their borders, or section of, at any time, as has already happened with a few member States
Steely Dan Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Let's hear it for the Hungarian border fence. It has cut the number of economic migrants/Invaders down from 10,000 to 41. Let's hope Hungary's neighbors do likewise. http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260507/hungary-border-fence-cuts-muslim-invasion-10000-41-daniel-greenfield Guns stop murderers. Border fences keep out invaders. The real world doesn't work anything like the left's imaginary world is supposed to. Hungary's border fencing is up. It was built as a rush job by mobilizing the military, using convicts and people on welfare. It's the kind of project that made lefties clutch their pearls. And it worked. Edited October 20, 2015 by Steely Dan
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