METV if you're unemployed?

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

I may return to my home country to see family. If I do, I may get the METV if I want to do come back here. However, I am unemployed at the moment, but I have enough savings in the bank.

Can you get the METV is you're not with employment? I can provide the bank statement, yes.

Also, how do you prove your address? It is just your country of residence or must you show proof of your actual home address?

[ubonjoe]

Whether you need to prove employment depends upon where you apply. Some locations do not have that as a requirement.

Dependent upon your age you might be able to state you are retired also.

[KhunBENQ]

Whether you need to prove employment depends upon where you apply. Some locations do not have that as a requirement.

Although not helpful in this case: in Germany there is no mention of such req.

Just min. 5000 Euro on the account.

To the OP: where do you want to apply?

Also, how do you prove your address? It is just your country of residence or must you show proof of your actual home address?

Again from Germany: if you are German citizen no need to proof address.

Guess this is the same in other countries.

Foreigner living in Germany needs proof of address and permission to stay.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

If I applied, it would be in the US at the LA consulate.

[lkv]

Again from Germany: if you are German citizen no need to proof address.

Guess this is the same in other countries.

Foreigner living in Germany needs proof of address and permission to stay.

How about if say you are from an EU country and you want to get it in Germany. My embassy (Eastern Europe) is insisting about employment locally, they would not even accept proof of employment from overseas ( outside of Thailand ofc).

[blackcab]

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[elviajero]

If I applied, it would be in the US at the LA consulate.

The LA consulate require a letter from an employer confirming employment. You can get a SETV without proof of employment.

You don't need to provide proof of your address. Your US passport confirms your right to permeant residence.

[NoshowJones]

What a way to treat "guests" who want to come to Thailand. As UbonJoe says, it depends on which Consulate or Embassy you apply at.

Just why can they not have the same rules at every Embassy? Why is that so hard?

[Suradit69]

Again from Germany: if you are German citizen no need to proof address.

Guess this is the same in other countries.

Foreigner living in Germany needs proof of address and permission to stay.

How about if say you are from an EU country and you want to get it in Germany. My embassy (Eastern Europe) is insisting about employment locally, they would not even accept proof of employment from overseas ( outside of Thailand ofc).

"How about if say you are from an EU country and you want to get it in Germany."

It seems in most cases you need to be a citizen of the country in which you are applying or else have some sort of legal residence status in that country.

[seancbk]

What a way to treat "guests" who want to come to Thailand. As UbonJoe says, it depends on which Consulate or Embassy you apply at.

Just why can they not have the same rules at every Embassy? Why is that so hard?

I'm a British citizen, it just happens that I've never lived there, have no bank accounts there and obviously not employed there.

When I enquired at one of the Thai consulates in the UK about getting an METV they said there was absolutely no chance of getting one.

Obviously my situation is slightly outside of the norm, but is one more example of how the rules for things here are never carefully considered to take into account every eventuality.

[thpon]

What a way to treat "guests" who want to come to Thailand. As UbonJoe says, it depends on which Consulate or Embassy you apply at.

Just why can they not have the same rules at every Embassy? Why is that so hard?

Welcome to the land of smiles

[lkv]

What a way to treat "guests" who want to come to Thailand. As UbonJoe says, it depends on which Consulate or Embassy you apply at.

Just why can they not have the same rules at every Embassy? Why is that so hard?

I'm a British citizen, it just happens that I've never lived there, have no bank accounts there and obviously not employed there.

When I enquired at one of the Thai consulates in the UK about getting an METV they said there was absolutely no chance of getting one.

Obviously my situation is slightly outside of the norm, but is one more example of how the rules for things here are never carefully considered to take into account every eventuality.

Let's all remember that this METV (5,000 baht or 150 EUR or USD 200) has been invented to promote tourism, the double and triples were somehow decreasing the number of tourists. Which by the way is forever increasing according to TAT.

It may loosen up in 6-12 months. Or the exact opposite. Who knows. We'll see

[hawker9000]

If I applied, it would be in the US at the LA consulate.

The LA consulate require a letter from an employer confirming employment. You can get a SETV without proof of employment.

You don't need to provide proof of your address. Your US passport confirms your right to permeant residence.

And if you're retired?

[jacksam]

This topic has been going in circles. Like EVERYTHING with thai consulates and embassies you need to ASK them not tv. Mainly because they are all different. Some want employment etc some not. The requirements are in nutshell STUPID

[jspill]

I forget which consulate websites I looked at but some did accept 'proof of unemployment', or proof of being retired, or self-employed.

As mentioned some don't require anything other than nationality + money + plus a flight to Thailand, some want the flight out of Thailand as well, and Australia has been accepting all nationalities.

[sunnyjim5]

I forget which consulate websites I looked at but some did accept 'proof of unemployment', or proof of being retired, or self-employed.

As mentioned some don't require anything other than nationality + money + plus a flight to Thailand, some want the flight out of Thailand as well, and Australia has been accepting all nationalities.

Does the Australian Thai Embassy grant visas to "all nationalities" or only to those who can obtain a legal stay in Australia and can apply without having to return to their own countries for a Thai visa as many people have to do ?

[jacksam]

Thai consulate requirements often vary from what they actually require

[jspill]

Does the Australian Thai Embassy grant visas to "all nationalities" or only to those who can obtain a legal stay in Australia and can apply without having to return to their own countries for a Thai visa as many people have to do ?

All that's required is to take a short few days holiday to Oz on the standard eVisitor certificate a tourist would get.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/870548-the-multiple-entry-tourist-visa-topic-metv/page-38#entry10304509

[hawker9000]

This topic has been going in circles. Like EVERYTHING with thai consulates and embassies you need to ASK them not tv. Mainly because they are all different. Some want employment etc some not. The requirements are in nutshell STUPID

No. You're not paying attention. The OP - you know, the person that actually STARTS the topic - was specific. He's asking about the LA Consulate in the US, and what THEIR requirements are. The fact that you apparently don't know (which leaves me wondering why you're muddying the waters here) doesn't mean no one else does.

[ukrules]

What a way to treat "guests" who want to come to Thailand. As UbonJoe says, it depends on which Consulate or Embassy you apply at.

Just why can they not have the same rules at every Embassy? Why is that so hard?

I'm a British citizen, it just happens that I've never lived there, have no bank accounts there and obviously not employed there.

When I enquired at one of the Thai consulates in the UK about getting an METV they said there was absolutely no chance of getting one.

Obviously my situation is slightly outside of the norm, but is one more example of how the rules for things here are never carefully considered to take into account every eventuality.

You make an interesting point but I think you don't consider the possibility / probability that Thailand wants to reduce the numbers of people entering on these longer term visas which allow multiple back to back stays.

It's no accident that this new visa will massively reduce the numbers of people staying longer than the usual single 60-90 day entry.

Despite what many people appear to think this rule will have received careful consideration before it was introduced.

They're not in any way stupid, there's no 'unintended consequence' here - it's a carefully crafted and deliberate act.

[silverado]

i 've heart that in belgium , you can prove your last months incomes (1.000 euros/month) instead of having 6.000 euros on an account... also no obligation to be employed, just prove you're pensioner / unemployed / disabled on benefit....

[IMA_FARANG]

If I applied, it would be in the US at the LA consulate.

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Your choice, but LA is known as a bunch of a__holes and very strict.

From LA you are better advised to apply at the Thai consulate in Portland, Oregon......who is much more friendly in most cases.

[terrukba]

I have just returned to the UK from Thailand having been there a few months on tourist visas. Early next year I am considering applying for a METV in London. At this point I will have been unemployed one year and living off savings but I will have over the required amount. 

 

Is it unlikely I will succeed in my application?

 

 

[Ronuk]

2 hours ago, terrukba said:

I have just returned to the UK from Thailand having been there a few months on tourist visas. Early next year I am considering applying for a METV in London. At this point I will have been unemployed one year and living off savings but I will have over the required amount. 

 

Is it unlikely I will succeed in my application?

 

 

According to the Thai Embassy in London, no. You need a letter from your employer.

 

3.  REQUIRED DOCUMENTS FOR (Multiple Entries )( Multiple entries tourist visa please click here )

     -  A current passport with validity of over 6 months beyond the date of application
     -  A completed application from
     -  Two (2) recent (2 x 2 inches.) photographs of the applicant
     -  Original bank stament of the applicant showing a blance of least 5000 puonds ( for 6 months)
        or a print out with official stamp of the bank
     -  A letter from the applicant's employer ( in the UK and addressed to the Royal Thai Embassy)
        If you are self-employed, you self assessment and a copany registration doument are required 
     -  A photocopy of the confirmed Air ticket to Thailand
     -  A photocopy of the hotel reservation confirmation in Thailand

[gk10002000]

And this shows a problem with the METV.  Many people are NOT employed.  Many are retired and simply living off savings, or have a fine pension, or have dividends and income, etc.  As written, the process requires an employer letter.  I suppose one could try supplying a letter affirming your income or what not and that an employer letter is not possible and not applicable.  Let us know

[Ronuk]

33 minutes ago, Ronuk said:

f you are self-employed, you self assessment and a copany registration doument are required 
     -  A photocopy of the confirmed Air ticket to Thailand
     -  A photocopy of the hotel reservation confirmation in Thailand

Take it from me. There is absolutely no chance of getting the required Visa in London if you cannot supply exactly what they require. I also believe that fees are non refundable for failed applications.

3. VISA FEES

Visa and postage fee must be paid by Postal Order made payable to: THE ROYAL THAI EMBASSY.please kindly write down the applicant 's name and passport number at the back of the postal order 

CHEQUES ARE NOT ACCEPTED.

 # NO REFUNDS IN ANY CIRCUIMSTANCES #.

Visa Type	Fee (£)
1 .Transit (3 months validity/Single Entry)	20
2. Tourist (3 months validity/Up to 60 days/Single) 3. Tourist (6 months validity/Up to 60 days/Multiple Entries)	25  125
4. Non-Immigrant (3 months validity/Single Entry/up to 90 days) 5. Non-Immigrant (1 year validity/ Multiple Entries)   7. Non-Immigrant O-A (3 months validity/ Single Entry/Up to 1 year)    8. Non-Immigrant O-A (1 year validity/ Multiple Entries/Up to 1 year)	50  125   50 N/A BY POST  125 N/A BY POST
9. Non-Immigrant (3 year validity/ Multiple Entries)(Business only)	250 N/A BY POST

**Visa fees are payable in pounds sterling

 

[BritTim]

3 hours ago, terrukba said:

I have just returned to the UK from Thailand having been there a few months on tourist visas. Early next year I am considering applying for a METV in London. At this point I will have been unemployed one year and living off savings but I will have over the required amount. 

 

Is it unlikely I will succeed in my application?

 

As Ronuk says, you will not get an METV through the London Embassy unless you can meet their requirements precisely. Some of the honorary consulates may be more flexible. If able to attend one of them in person, explain your circumstances to them and ask if they can help.

[Ronuk]

Just looking at the Hull consulate website. They actually require a more comprehensive list to acquire a METV than London?
I never thought it was possible to get worse than London!

http://www.thaiconsul-uk.com/pdf/v4-rtc-hull-visa-application-pack-2016.pdf

[ubonjoe]

13 minutes ago, Ronuk said:

Just looking at the Hull consulate website. They actually require a more comprehensive list to acquire a METV than London?
I never thought it was possible to get worse than London!

http://www.thaiconsul-uk.com/pdf/v4-rtc-hull-visa-application-pack-2016.pdf

 

Not sure but it does detail some options to overcome the employment proof.

 

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The retired at any age part might leave some options for many. I suspect if a person was to prove they have the ability to live without working and showed some good proof it would be accepted.

[Ronuk]

12 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Not sure but it does detail some options to overcome the employment proof.

 

 

The retired at any age part might leave some options for many. I suspect if a person was to prove they have the ability to live without working and showed some good proof it would be accepted.

I did notice that but wasn't sure if they was adamant on it being some sort of pension. Unless I missed it, I also never saw that fees were not returnable from Hull if say your application wasn't successful?  I have never dealt with Hull as it was 300 miles or so from me in the UK so no idea exactly how they work. London is truly awful though. It is invariably shoulder to shoulder with people as it is such a small area where you actually apply. Nobody has anytime for you and is very clinical they way they work.