Real Mash potato in Ubon Ratchathani

[highlander403]

any of you guys in ubon looking for a tattie (potato) chapper (masher) i have a spare one

scotty

[moose7117]

seriously , you have a potato masher ?

how much you want for it ?

hard to find real mash in ubon.

[hugocnx]

Yes, expensive. How many servings you think a Chef can make out of that 115 Baht pack and considering a kilo of potatoes in Thailand cost only 30 Baht.

With standard gross margin calculations your cheap pack will do about 100 Baht per person on the menu, depending on class of restaurant. That is way to expensive.

Imagine two people eat 115 baht potatoes, that's almost the price of one kilo of pork. Bit out of balance wouldn't you say so?

Besides, quality is not even close to home made mashed potatoes.

That 115 Baht pack will make me about 4 - 5kg of firm mashed potato.

A serving in a restaurant is about 200 gram, that means 20 -25 servings, or about 5 Baht per serving, instead of 100 Baht.

That Casino stuff must be great. Sold out of course.

Left with the McGarreth and Pfanni brands. They both come around 100 Baht per kilo yield. Now that was what I meant the expensive stuff.

If Casino yields as you say 4 to 5 kg, then that is quite attractive, average 25 Baht per kilo.

Nice as binder for gulyash soup and the likes.

[BTempleman]

Let's move on... Harder to find is good potato salad. The wife had to give tater salad classes to the local friends.

Hey Marty ..... Peppers potato salad is delicious

Would expect it to be so, given Julian's German heritage; haven't tried it yet though.

Germany makes the best potato salad IMO - knocks my perfectly acceptable home-made one* into a cocked hat. Must look up on the internet what is the ingredient that gives it that typical delicious piquancy.

*good waxy old potatoes or fresh baby new potatoes (not available here of course) good mayonnaise and no yukky peas or other veggies, except spring onions/scallions or shallots

Use Dusseldorf mustard, horseradish, or vinegar to make it piquant.

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[katareya2006]

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There is plenty of decent mashed potato all over Ubon town.

It just seems that katareya2006 is a little confused..... which is understandable when you forget that you actually own the same restaurant that you are reviewing.

katareya2006 - please come and join the conversation.

.......And I thought you would be too busy throwing shrimps on a Barbie than to discuss REAL mash potato 555. Then again the Brits were always the superior race.....We released you're ancestors from Prison and gave them freedom afterall Andrew

[swampdonkey]

Yes, expensive. How many servings you think a Chef can make out of that 115 Baht pack and considering a kilo of potatoes in Thailand cost only 30 Baht.

With standard gross margin calculations your cheap pack will do about 100 Baht per person on the menu, depending on class of restaurant. That is way to expensive.

Imagine two people eat 115 baht potatoes, that's almost the price of one kilo of pork. Bit out of balance wouldn't you say so?

Besides, quality is not even close to home made mashed potatoes.

That 115 Baht pack will make me about 4 - 5kg of firm mashed potato.

A serving in a restaurant is about 200 gram, that means 20 -25 servings, or about 5 Baht per serving, instead of 100 Baht.

That Casino stuff must be great. Sold out of course.

Left with the McGarreth and Pfanni brands. They both come around 100 Baht per kilo yield. Now that was what I meant the expensive stuff.

If Casino yields as you say 4 to 5 kg, then that is quite attractive, average 25 Baht per kilo.

Nice as binder for gulyash soup and the likes.

Casino brand will not be available anymore in big C

[DreamRider]

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There is plenty of decent mashed potato all over Ubon town.

It just seems that katareya2006 is a little confused..... which is understandable when you forget that you actually own the same restaurant that you are reviewing.

katareya2006 - please come and join the conversation.

.......And I thought you would be too busy throwing shrimps on a Barbie than to discuss REAL mash potato 555. Then again the Brits were always the superior race.....We released you're ancestors from Prison and gave them freedom afterall Andrew

The word is "your" Adrien, not "you're" as you also spelled in another post when attacking Andrew. Come on Mate ... you Brit's are supposed to be the cultured, educated mob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[katareya2006]

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There is plenty of decent mashed potato all over Ubon town.

It just seems that katareya2006 is a little confused..... which is understandable when you forget that you actually own the same restaurant that you are reviewing.

katareya2006 - please come and join the conversation.

.......And I thought you would be too busy throwing shrimps on a Barbie than to discuss REAL mash potato 555. Then again the Brits were always the superior race.....We released you're ancestors from Prison and gave them freedom afterall Andrew

The word is "your" Adrien, not "you're" as you also spelled in another post when attacking Andrew. Come on Mate ... you Brit's are supposed to be the cultured, educated mob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are......and deep thanks for correcting my English......Alas it was predictive texts and I do not have the time nor inclination to check my use of the Queens English when replying to undesirable's ???

[hugocnx]

Yes, expensive. How many servings you think a Chef can make out of that 115 Baht pack and considering a kilo of potatoes in Thailand cost only 30 Baht.

With standard gross margin calculations your cheap pack will do about 100 Baht per person on the menu, depending on class of restaurant. That is way to expensive.

Imagine two people eat 115 baht potatoes, that's almost the price of one kilo of pork. Bit out of balance wouldn't you say so?

Besides, quality is not even close to home made mashed potatoes.

That 115 Baht pack will make me about 4 - 5kg of firm mashed potato.

A serving in a restaurant is about 200 gram, that means 20 -25 servings, or about 5 Baht per serving, instead of 100 Baht.

That Casino stuff must be great. Sold out of course.

Left with the McGarreth and Pfanni brands. They both come around 100 Baht per kilo yield. Now that was what I meant the expensive stuff.

If Casino yields as you say 4 to 5 kg, then that is quite attractive, average 25 Baht per kilo.

Nice as binder for gulyash soup and the likes.

Casino brand will not be available anymore in big C

Bummer...>If no Casino potato mash powder available; return to post #2<

[sabang]

Well I think the mash wars are settled! Perhaps afficionados of instant mash might tell us where to find it in Ubon, as it would appear to be very much the exception. On second thoughts, don't bother.

Now for the 'real chip wars'. Does any farang place in Ubon do real chips? All the places I know do the frozen variety. NJoy used to do them, but switched to frozen because apparently most customers prefer them. But not this one.

[highlander403]

Well I think the mash wars are settled! Perhaps afficionados of instant mash might tell us where to find it in Ubon, as it would appear to be very much the exception. On second thoughts, don't bother.

Now for the 'real chip wars'. Does any farang place in Ubon do real chips? All the places I know do the frozen variety. NJoy used to do them, but switched to frozen because apparently most customers prefer them. But not this one.

well sabang i think you might try asking one of the two nice ladies at n-joy especially rattana if she could do some real chips for you,

i am sure in your case she would not see you having to eat the frozen type

scotty

[SantiSuk]

Trouble is that good 'old' potatoes - the ones that make good chips are like rocking horse $hit in Thailand. Standard supermarket ones are too waxy for the job.

[Oh boy. what have you gone and started now sabang.

After the mash wars, nobody expects .... the fries fracas!]

[hugocnx]

Trouble is that good 'old' potatoes - the ones that make good chips are like rocking horse $hit in Thailand. Standard supermarket ones are too waxy for the job.

[Oh boy. what have you gone and started now sabang.

After the mash wars, nobody expects .... the fries fracas!]

Dunno what region you are from and what potatoes you buy. I always have good potatoes for cooking and frying. No complaints here.

Even Tesco has good enough potatoes..

Waxy, do you mean when making mash, do you use a mixer or blender? Wrong.

Good old potatoes, yes I know what you mean. The old farts you can buy till new harvest. Excellent for mash and chips though.

Thailand doesn't have to stock up as there can be harvest year round. Maybe you can stock 'm up, see if you can get some chemicals to preserve and then see what you get.

No other way to prevent potatoes from sprouting.

[SantiSuk]

I'm a brit and for us old potatoes are autumn/winter grown, rather than spring/summer grown new potatoes with their denser flesh. Not related to how old the potatoes are in terms of duration since pulling up.

IMO the potatoes I find in Thailand are more densely fleshed akin to the new potatoes I know from my homeland. IMO they make rubbish chips (but OK mash, OK roast and good oven-baked). All a matter of opinion though. If you can find potatoes that make chips you like then I'm happy for you. The potatoes I find in Tesco in Sisaket and Ubon provinces seem to make a chip I find to be too densely fleshed, waxy and a bit slimy, a chip that is not porous and fluffy inside - just a personal view/preference - nowt to do with techniques of making mashed potatoes (but I would use a hand stamp-type masher since you ask!)

The fries fracas is starting in earnest. Lets hear from the pros (sorry if you are one yourself and I have unwittingly dissed you)!

If anyone has tips for making great fries with the standard Thai-Tesco-type potato (maybe double or even triple-frying; I don't know how to do that) I'm all ears. I would prefer to make the real thing. Those big bags of frozen are a pain in the freezer and become ice-bound before my 6 year-old and I have got through the packet!

Edited March 12, 2016 by SantiSuk

[sabang]

Rattana does the standard double fry, when she does them. I just do a single fry, the few times I can be arsed. The spuds here aren't ideal for chipping, 'tis true, but they're good enough for me.

[Ceruhe]

Alright, let me go at this too

Going with the casino instant example....we got...

500g pack/36g portions = 13.8 servings@267g, let's just make that 14 servings and get a yield of roughly 3.7kg. Not sure if you want to add in milk after that or substitute some water for milk, butter and whatever, and let's go with a generous assuption of 4kg end result of instant mashed.

115B per pack, some milk, butter and flavor stuff, I'd guestimate a total cost of ~135B (randomly assigning 200ml milk and 100g butter into the mixture for 8 and 12 baht respectively).

135/4000 = 33.75B/Kg or about 2.4B per each 14 servings.

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And because I just did mashed with reglar potatoes, here are my numbers.

3800 peeled potatoes (wasn't around for the total amount, assuming around 4.2k worth of unpeeled), with milk, butter and whatever, ending up with 3.9kg worth of mashed potatoes.

Going with 30-32B/kg potatoes and using 4.2kg as baseline, I'm starting with 126-135B for the potatoes, adding the above mentioned randomly assigned 200ml milk and 100g into it with 8 and 12 baht, that puts us to 146-155B total cost.

146-155/3900 = 37.4-39.7B/kg or about 2.6-2.83B per each 14 servings.

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I think I did my math right, but someone may want to double check just in case.

All values are....were, subjective to mild roundups and some guesswork, as I'm not too into the detail about trivial stuff like that.

With that said, I haven't eaten instant mashed in ages and have no idea if I can tell the difference between instant and fresh anymore and therefore abstain from a comment on that, besides the obligatory "instant sucks "

If we are looking at the workload, instant is by far less time consuming and way faster to make than using fresh potatoes.

TL;DR

Instant cost 33.75B/Kg

Fresh potato cost 37.4-39.7B/Kg

Mileage may vary.

[hugocnx]

Alright, let me go at this too

Going with the casino instant example....we got...

500g pack/36g portions = 13.8 servings@267g, let's just make that 14 servings and get a yield of roughly 3.7kg. Not sure if you want to add in milk after that or substitute some water for milk, butter and whatever, and let's go with a generous assuption of 4kg end result of instant mashed.

115B per pack, some milk, butter and flavor stuff, I'd guestimate a total cost of ~135B (randomly assigning 200ml milk and 100g butter into the mixture for 8 and 12 baht respectively).

135/4000 = 33.75B/Kg or about 2.4B per each 14 servings.

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And because I just did mashed with reglar potatoes, here are my numbers.

3800 peeled potatoes (wasn't around for the total amount, assuming around 4.2k worth of unpeeled), with milk, butter and whatever, ending up with 3.9kg worth of mashed potatoes.

Going with 30-32B/kg potatoes and using 4.2kg as baseline, I'm starting with 126-135B for the potatoes, adding the above mentioned randomly assigned 200ml milk and 100g into it with 8 and 12 baht, that puts us to 146-155B total cost.

146-155/3900 = 37.4-39.7B/kg or about 2.6-2.83B per each 14 servings.

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I think I did my math right, but someone may want to double check just in case.

All values are....were, subjective to mild roundups and some guesswork, as I'm not too into the detail about trivial stuff like that.

With that said, I haven't eaten instant mashed in ages and have no idea if I can tell the difference between instant and fresh anymore and therefore abstain from a comment on that, besides the obligatory "instant sucks "

If we are looking at the workload, instant is by far less time consuming and way faster to make than using fresh potatoes.

TL;DR

Instant cost 33.75B/Kg

Fresh potato cost 37.4-39.7B/Kg

Mileage may vary.

200 ml milk for 8 Baht; 100 g., butter for 12 Baht???

So that means 40 Baht per liter of milk. Very cheap, but possible. Bottles are mostly 880 g at a price somewhere at 42 Baht or over.

So that means 120 Baht per kilo of butter. Not possible. Can not buy butter at that price. Butter blend replacement yes. I suppose you mean that kind of margarine.

Tell me where to buy butter for 120 Baht per kilo and you would really make me rich.

Your comparison goes limp as you didn't calculate the cost for an extra hour or more to peel, cook and mash the potatoes. Add at least a hundred baht for that as the discussion was mainly about cost for restaurants.

However, another poster mentioned that Casino potatoe mash is no longer for sale. The alternatives are far more expensive.

[Ceruhe]

So that means 120 Baht per kilo of butter. Not possible. Can not buy butter at that price. Butter blend replacement yes. I suppose you mean that kind of margarine.

Tell me where to buy butter for 120 Baht per kilo and you would really make me rich.

Well yea, whatever you make of that horrid Allowrie stuff alright, I'm aware that good real butter is beyond the graps of the 99% so to say haha

Your comparison goes limp as you didn't calculate the cost for an extra hour or more to peel, cook and mash the potatoes. Add at least a hundred baht for that as the discussion was mainly about cost for restaurants.

You are right, I did not include said extra cost and only sort of in between the lines referencing it with my last sentence. Although the quantity we are talking about is restaurant sized, it was more of a reply comparision toward TheChruncer and his posts #2/ #9 #13, which are hinting more toward a family dinner at home.

I'd say the main take away from his posts were "they aren't expensive when you actually know how much it yields", as I didn't know how much you can get out of that box. Based off gut feeling I would've went with around 2-2.5kg but that was pretty much way beyond the mark. So throwing up roughly equal numbers with real potatoes was a decent insight to how much the difference is about....yes yes, still excluding hidden costs.