1. Retirement Visa

I went for my yearly extension last week at Sakhorn Nakhorn but was refused. The reason given was that my latest bankbook investment account number did not have the money in for 3 months. I showed them all the bankbooks going back to 2013. When a term deposit matures, that bankbook is closed and another started with the new term deposit. You can see the money from one bank book going straight into the new book. The latest maturity was only a month before my visa extension so immigration said they can only go on the last bankbook number and not the ones before as they had different numbers. So i didnt qualify for the retirement extension.

2. Marriage Visa

Immigration said to get around the problem use my marriage certificate (we were married in 1990), and apply for a marriage visa. After lots of running around, visits to bangkok, roiet, kanman, amper, etc., late friday all the forms etc were approved at the amper and i will pick them up at Kuchinari monday for trip back to Sakhorn Nakhorn for my marriage visa.

What are advantages or disadvantages of the marriage/retirement visas.

3. Wife owning two houses

In the process of all this i was asked why i use my brother in laws house papers. I live in the same compound as he does, but we have our own surveyed land. So the suggestion was to use the house papers for our land and to go and get a house number. All very interesting, so we got a house number and have the required paperwork to finalise it at the city office, but, evidently (i think this is correct) we cant put my wifes name on the house paper as she already owns a house in pattaya.

Can my wife own two houses, or, can she have two land paper documents with her name on them?

At the moment (for the future) if my wife doesnt have her name on the house papers here, only the house number, how can i use the papers for visa extensions? I'll still have to use the brother in laws.

Immigration has the right to not accept the funds moving from one account to another during the 3 months. Sometimes a letter from the bank explaining the reason can help getting around it if they refuse your application,

The only advantage of an extension based upon marriage other than the lower financial requirements is that you can get a work permit and work with one.

It seems that going to all those locations was because you were married outside the country and had not registered it at an Amphoe to get a Kor Ror 22.

Your wife can own more than one house and have house books for them but she can only be registered in one as a resident (normally as head of household). She will have to change her registry from Pattaya to the one you are living in.

Coming to mind, haven´t you thought about using the combination-method when applying for an extension of stay based on Retirement (NOT A VISA)....

Haven´t you got some kind of a income from your homecountry, which can be confirmed by your embassy, so that income together with your bankfunds will together make up for the 800.000 baht on a yearly basis. AND NO NEED TO HAVE YOUR MONEY IN THE BANK SEASONED AT ALL.....

Glegolo

Sorry but some Immi offices require seasoning if using the combo method - regardless of what "the Rules" say.

Phuket notably.

Sorry but some Immi offices require seasoning if using the combo method - regardless of what "the Rules" say.

Phuket notably.

I think most do now.

Khon Kaen does as I asked them.

Immigration has the right to not accept the funds moving from one account to another during the 3 months. Sometimes a letter from the bank explaining the reason can help getting around it if they refuse your application,

The only advantage of an extension based upon marriage other than the lower financial requirements is that you can get a work permit and work with one.

It seems that going to all those locations was because you were married outside the country and had not registered it at an Amphoe to get a Kor Ror 22.

Your wife can own more than one house and have house books for them but she can only be registered in one as a resident (normally as head of household). She will have to change her registry from Pattaya to the one you are living in.

Thank you joe.

We were married in the Australian Embassy Bangkok (long time ago when you could do those things), so I guess we were married outside Thailand.

Now I don't know why the immigration officer at Sakhorn Nakhorn suggested a marriage visa, if he deemed we didn't have the money in the bank for 3 months because of the different bank book numbers.

So going on the assumption that I will need to show B 400000 in the bank, I got a statement from our working bankbook (different from the investment books), and it usually has more than B 400000 in it, but I noticed in January it dropped to B 364000 for a couple of weeks although the average for the year is above the B 400000. Does this then mean they will knock me back on my marriage visa application?

If so, any suggestions? My retirement visa runs out on the 22nd of March 2016.

Coming to mind, haven´t you thought about using the combination-method when applying for an extension of stay based on Retirement (NOT A VISA)....

Haven´t you got some kind of a income from your homecountry, which can be confirmed by your embassy, so that income together with your bankfunds will together make up for the 800.000 baht on a yearly basis. AND NO NEED TO HAVE YOUR MONEY IN THE BANK SEASONED AT ALL.....

Glegolo

Thanks for your replly. I do have money from superannuation, but I didn't think I would need any other proof as I had the investment account bank books, and at Pattaya there was never a problem.

As my retirement visa runs out on the 22/3/16 I probably don't have time to go back to the embassy again. I was just back there Wednesday, as the local Ampher didn't accept our marriage certification as they said it was too old (1990) so I had to fly to Bangkok to get it certified again that it was true.

The money has to be in your bank account.

Not "our"

It will be rejected anyway as the balance fell below 400,000

Sorry but some Immi offices require seasoning if using the combo method - regardless of what "the Rules" say.

Phuket notably.

I think most do now.

Khon Kaen does as I asked them.

The immigration officer said I could go to Khon Kaen and have a 'special case'.

If I am refused again on Monday at Sakhorn Nakhorn, should I go to Khon Kaen and apply there? Would I also need a letter from the bank about the multiple bank books?

The money has to be in your bank account.

Not "our"

It will be rejected anyway as the balance fell below 400,000

Thanks, are you saying they will reject it if it is a joint account as well?

You have to apply in the area you live.

You cannot pick and chose.

You should also learn how to use the quote function.

You cannot use a joint account.

You have to apply in the area you live.

You cannot pick and chose.

You should also learn how to use the quote function.

Got one problem sorted.

You cannot use a joint account.

This gets even better.

I had heard that you may not be able to use a joint named account, so i changed the investment account to my name, and when I first went to Sakhorn Nakhorn, the immigration officer, the one who rejected multiple passbooks, asked my why I changed from a joint account to my name account, and when I told him, he said that it was not correct, and the way they look at a joint account is if you have B 800000 in it then one of the joint account holders has B 400000 and the other has B 400000.

Immigration has the right to not accept the funds moving from one account to another during the 3 months. Sometimes a letter from the bank explaining the reason can help getting around it if they refuse your application,

The only advantage of an extension based upon marriage other than the lower financial requirements is that you can get a work permit and work with one.

It seems that going to all those locations was because you were married outside the country and had not registered it at an Amphoe to get a Kor Ror 22.

Your wife can own more than one house and have house books for them but she can only be registered in one as a resident (normally as head of household). She will have to change her registry from Pattaya to the one you are living in.

Thank you joe.

We were married in the Australian Embassy Bangkok (long time ago when you could do those things), so I guess we were married outside Thailand.

Now I don't know why the immigration officer at Sakhorn Nakhorn suggested a marriage visa, if he deemed we didn't have the money in the bank for 3 months because of the different bank book numbers.

So going on the assumption that I will need to show B 400000 in the bank, I got a statement from our working bankbook (different from the investment books), and it usually has more than B 400000 in it, but I noticed in January it dropped to B 364000 for a couple of weeks although the average for the year is above the B 400000. Does this then mean they will knock me back on my marriage visa application?

If so, any suggestions? My retirement visa runs out on the 22nd of March 2016.

The money only has to be in the bank for 2 months when you apply for an extension based upon marriage. Normally the are very strict on it being in your name only for either type of extension.

When did your funds go above the 400k level in January?

If you cannot get things sorted out in time you can apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife unless you have applied for one before and then apply for the one year extension near the end of it.

As said, a sixty day extension will give you a bit of time to sort things out.

Are you sure immigration asked you to change to marriage? I suspect he asked you to obtain a 60 day extension for marriage to allow time for your new account to season. Then continue retirement extensions.

Immigration has the right to not accept the funds moving from one account to another during the 3 months. Sometimes a letter from the bank explaining the reason can help getting around it if they refuse your application,

The only advantage of an extension based upon marriage other than the lower financial requirements is that you can get a work permit and work with one.

It seems that going to all those locations was because you were married outside the country and had not registered it at an Amphoe to get a Kor Ror 22.

Your wife can own more than one house and have house books for them but she can only be registered in one as a resident (normally as head of household). She will have to change her registry from Pattaya to the one you are living in.

Thank you joe.

We were married in the Australian Embassy Bangkok (long time ago when you could do those things), so I guess we were married outside Thailand.

Now I don't know why the immigration officer at Sakhorn Nakhorn suggested a marriage visa, if he deemed we didn't have the money in the bank for 3 months because of the different bank book numbers.

So going on the assumption that I will need to show B 400000 in the bank, I got a statement from our working bankbook (different from the investment books), and it usually has more than B 400000 in it, but I noticed in January it dropped to B 364000 for a couple of weeks although the average for the year is above the B 400000. Does this then mean they will knock me back on my marriage visa application?

If so, any suggestions? My retirement visa runs out on the 22nd of March 2016.

The money only has to be in the bank for 2 months when you apply for an extension based upon marriage. Normally the are very strict on it being in your name only for either type of extension.

When did your funds go above the 400k level in January?

If you cannot get things sorted out in time you can apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife unless you have applied for one before and then apply for the one year extension near the end of it.

Funds

Sorry I was wrong about the funds dates.

The funds went below B 400000 on the 5, 6 and 7 th of March 2016 only, in the period from 6th January 2016.

At the moment I can't check online banking before the 6th of January 2016.

Also the money in the account is in joint names.

60 day extension to visit my wife

Sorry to be pretty stupid about these things.

So you are saying that I get all my documents and go to the Sakhorn Nakhorn immigration office bright and early Monday morning, submit them, and if they get rejected then I ask to apply for a 60 day extension to visit my wife?

Can they reject that too?

Before when I worked in Thailand I was on a work permit, then worked overseas and only visited for 6 weeks of the year at a time, I have only been on the retirement visa for 2 years and never applied for any other extensions.

OR

Should I get in the car and drive to Pattaya and do it there as I have done for the last 2 years?

I don't really want to do this as have to take the sister in law to have a endoscopy on Tuesday, but I would like it sorted.

Immigration has the right to not accept the funds moving from one account to another during the 3 months. Sometimes a letter from the bank explaining the reason can help getting around it if they refuse your application,

The only advantage of an extension based upon marriage other than the lower financial requirements is that you can get a work permit and work with one.

It seems that going to all those locations was because you were married outside the country and had not registered it at an Amphoe to get a Kor Ror 22.

Your wife can own more than one house and have house books for them but she can only be registered in one as a resident (normally as head of household). She will have to change her registry from Pattaya to the one you are living in.

Thank you joe.

We were married in the Australian Embassy Bangkok (long time ago when you could do those things), so I guess we were married outside Thailand.

Now I don't know why the immigration officer at Sakhorn Nakhorn suggested a marriage visa, if he deemed we didn't have the money in the bank for 3 months because of the different bank book numbers.

So going on the assumption that I will need to show B 400000 in the bank, I got a statement from our working bankbook (different from the investment books), and it usually has more than B 400000 in it, but I noticed in January it dropped to B 364000 for a couple of weeks although the average for the year is above the B 400000. Does this then mean they will knock me back on my marriage visa application?

If so, any suggestions? My retirement visa runs out on the 22nd of March 2016.

The money only has to be in the bank for 2 months when you apply for an extension based upon marriage. Normally the are very strict on it being in your name only for either type of extension.

When did your funds go above the 400k level in January?

If you cannot get things sorted out in time you can apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife unless you have applied for one before and then apply for the one year extension near the end of it.

Funds

Sorry I was wrong about the funds dates.

The funds went below B 400000 on the 5, 6 and 7 th of March 2016 only, in the period from 6th January 2016.

At the moment I can't check online banking before the 6th of January 2016.

Also the money in the account is in joint names.

60 day extension to visit my wife

Sorry to be pretty stupid about these things.

So you are saying that I get all my documents and go to the Sakhorn Nakhorn immigration office bright and early Monday morning, submit them, and if they get rejected then I ask to apply for a 60 day extension to visit my wife?

Can they reject that too?

Before when I worked in Thailand I was on a work permit, then worked overseas and only visited for 6 weeks of the year at a time, I have only been on the retirement visa for 2 years and never applied for any other extensions.

OR

Should I get in the car and drive to Pattaya and do it there as I have done for the last 2 years?

I don't really want to do this as have to take the sister in law to have a endoscopy on Tuesday, but I would like it sorted.

If you cannot get the one year extension done on Monday you can easily apply for the 60 day extension.

They would have no grounds to deny the 60 day extension since there is no financial requirements to get it. Just your marriage certificate, copies of your wife's house book registry and ID card is needed.

If you went to Pattaya chances are you would be denied the extension for the same reasons that Sakon Nakhon did.

Some more information, don't know if it matters or not.

I re-entered Thailand on the 1st March 2016 after nearly 3 months in Australia seeing a sick sister.

My visa stamp is until 22 March 2016 when my retirement visa runs out.

Some more information, don't know if it matters or not.

I re-entered Thailand on the 1st March 2016 after nearly 3 months in Australia seeing a sick sister.

My visa stamp is until 22 March 2016 when my retirement visa runs out.

The entry/permit to stay stamp makes makes no difference for doing your extension. It only sets the next date that you will need to so a 90 day report.

Are you sure immigration asked you to change to marriage? I suspect he asked you to obtain a 60 day extension for marriage to allow time for your new account to season. Then continue retirement extensions.

Maybe you are correct.

But there has been a huge process to get our marriage certificate processed from one made in the Australian Embassy Bangkok to Thai marriage.

The local ampher would not process it until we had it re-indorced by the Australian embassy and official stamp from that Foreign Affairs office in Lak see Bangkok. It was verified in 1990 so they said too old.

Then presenting to the local office Kuchinari said there was not enough info (no mother's and father's name etc), so had to drive to Roiet to get that done correctly.

Then went to the ampher office in Roiet (as suggested by Kuchinari office as they close on Friday at 4.30 pm.).

Roiet wouldn't do it as they said they needed more info and so we went back to Kuchinari at 4.10 pm and they said it was too late, but magically they prepared and OKed all the marriage papers to give to us Monday morning.

In the mean time visiting PuYaiBann and various other people to get the house number. Funny about the house numbers, in our compound there is 400s, 100s, and we got 181. And all the houses are beside each other! At least someone knows what's going on.

So maybe the 60 day extension for marriage is what he asked for.

Unless living in a housing development the house numbers are random. They just give out one that is available in villages. When my wife got the number for our house in the village they gave her number 4 and her mothers next door was 125.

Some more information, don't know if it matters or not.

I re-entered Thailand on the 1st March 2016 after nearly 3 months in Australia seeing a sick sister.

My visa stamp is until 22 March 2016 when my retirement visa runs out.

The entry/permit to stay stamp makes makes no difference for doing your extension. It only sets the next date that you will need to so a 90 day report.

Now I know why they put the 90 day reporting piece of paper in my passport.

Can I ask one more question?

I usually get a multiple reentry stamp.

Should i get one of these if I only get the 60 day extension, because it would run out at the end of the 60 days probably?

I don't plan on going out, but if someone gets sick back in Aus i may need to go out.

1. Yes re-entry is only valid until current permitted to stay date. You can obtain at airport after check-in if required.

2. Your marriage not being recorded made a simple 60 day extension much harder than normal - expect immigration officer was not aware of that issue but still something that is now done so if ever required again it is in place.

For the 60 day extension there is no requirement for the marriage to be registered here. They will accept a foreign marriage certificate without a Kor Ror 22 that proves it has been registered here.

If you decide to go the 60 day route, besides your wifes documents you'll need to take her along as well.

For the 60 day extension there is no requirement for the marriage to be registered here. They will accept a foreign marriage certificate without a Kor Ror 22 that proves it has been registered here.

Respectfully ubonjoe, sorry, not sure if they would accept the marriage certificate here.

When I presented our Australian Embassy marriage certificate and its certification as being true, and a Thai lawyer also certifying true and correct with a Thai translation, plus the certification and stamp from the from the place at Lak See, the people at the Roi Et government office looked at it and, i guess said it was a fake, and waved us good bye.

That's the impression my wife had also.

I suppose they had never seen a foreign marriage certificate from an embassy in Thailand.

If you decide to go the 60 day route, besides your wifes documents you'll need to take her along as well.

Haven't been able to get rid of her for 20 years. Not that I'd wanted too.