Scottish police investigate killing of Muslim shopkeeper

[rooster59]

Scottish police investigate killing of Muslim shopkeeper

LONDON (AP) — Scottish police say the killing of a Muslim shopkeeper who wished Christians a happy Easter is being investigated as "religiously prejudiced."

Vigils were held Friday and Saturday in memory of 40-year-old Asad Shah, who was killed Thursday night in Glasgow.

He had apparently posted messages on Facebook calling for religious harmony: "Good Friday and very happy Easter, especially to my beloved Christian nation x!"

Police say a 32-year-old man has been arrested in connection with Shah's death. The suspect, who police say is Muslim, has not been identified or charged.

Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon joined the Friday vigil in support of Shah and his family in Glasgow. Many lit candles and left flowers. Roughly 150 people also gathered in a light rain on Saturday to honor him, an event organized by local teens.

Police Scotland said that "a full investigation is under way to establish the full circumstances surrounding the death which is being treated as religiously prejudiced."

-- (c) Associated Press 2016-03-27

[Scott]

Sad, since Muslims consider Jesus to be a messenger from God, thus a prophet. They don't believe he is the son of God and they don't believe in the Trinity, however.

[Pimay1]

the death which is being treated as religiously prejudiced

I suppose it would be politically incorrect to treat it as a hate crime.

[Scott]

The OP states this:

The suspect, who police say is Muslim, has not been identified or charged.

So, I don't see where they are withholding his religion.

[simple1]

Alleged Muslim murderer arrested. One of the posts by the Muslim victim...

“All religions, including Islam, has failed to create peace and heaven on this earth.”

http://www.scotsman.com/news/asad-shah-death-man-arrested-for-religiously-prejudiced-killing-1-4082325

[Scott]

An off-topic post has been removed.

[kinmaew]

That is the kind of Muslim the UK needs - i.e. one who is willing to integrate and respect the country he is so fortunate to have come to. RIP and hope they find the murderer soon.

[stevenl]

Strange, since police have said he is Muslim.

Which begs the question why the guardian newspaper failed to mention this, or indeed that the police referred to it as religiously 'prejudiced'. I guess key facts impede self-flagellation.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/25/asad-shah-glasgow-tributes-shopkeeper-stabbed-to-death

I guess the shopkeeper might have been the wrong sort of Muslim or simply not Muslim enough.

Edit: just found out the victim was an Ahmadi Muslim (the peaceful ones). Ahmadis were among the first Muslims to come to the UK no doubt fleeing persecution back home. Unfortunately for them the current Multicultural ideologues have put paid to that.

Police is referring to it as 'treating it as religiously prejudiced', which is not the same as what you wrote. And it makes more sense to do the investigation that way and later possibly have to change than the other way round.

The Guardian did mention several times the police are treating it as 'religiously prejudiced', maybe next time better read before commenting.

Perhaps you ought to take your own advice about reading properly. My reply was to your own comment that Police said he (the accused) was a Muslim. I replied 'which begs the question why the guardian newspaper failed to mention THIS,

"why the guardian newspaper failed to mention this, or indeed that the police referred to it as religiously 'prejudiced'."

[JHolmesJr]

There are two things you don't talk about to others….religion and politics….because one day…sure as shit…one of those habits will get you into trouble. And if you must, using a forum alias is the way to go.

Looks like this guy was using his real name and details and conversing with billions of strangers on Facebook…people whose characters he had no idea about….now if thats not a disaster waiting to happen, I don't know what is.

[Baerboxer]

The Scotsman have been reporting on this. The murdered shopkeeper was described as a pillar of the community, a well liked person who wouldn't harm anyone, and part of a long time established family and business in the area. Many elderly Scots who live in the area and are customers spoke affectionately of him.

The suggestion was this attack and murder was racially motivated.

I wonder how many people automatically assumed it was a race hate crime by some nut job white racist rather than a fanatical Muslim who couldn't stand the idea of another Muslim being religiously tolerant and respectful of his adopted country and their beliefs?

The fanatical Muslims are prepared to kill any in the name of their God. Time everyone else woke up to that.

[tuanku]

It's been reported in the news too that the religion of the killer has been witheld.

Shameful

Plenty of pictures available of Mexican "Catholics" holding severed heads if that is what turns you on!

Those Mexican "Catholics" are usually criminal members of drug gangs busy butchering one another. They are motivated by rewards from crime.

These Muslims are religious fanatics, butchering any humans who don't bow to the particular religious view they worship. They are motivated by a belief they are doing God's work and will be rewarded in an afterlife.

Do you see the difference?

I see the difference, but it is not only other criminals the mexicans cut up, students, protestors etc. Also it is possible that the top people in organisations such as IS are motivated by greed and power as much as by religious fanaticism. They may use that as a tool to influence those lower down. Not saying fanatical Islam is excusable, just that it isn't the only evil in the world and that the actions of the fanatics do rather seem to get the rest of the millions of Muslims an undeserved bad reputation.

[i claudius]

Strange, since police have said he is Muslim.

Which begs the question why the guardian newspaper failed to mention this, or indeed that the police referred to it as religiously 'prejudiced'. I guess key facts impede self-flagellation.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/25/asad-shah-glasgow-tributes-shopkeeper-stabbed-to-death

I guess the shopkeeper might have been the wrong sort of Muslim or simply not Muslim enough.

Edit: just found out the victim was an Ahmadi Muslim (the peaceful ones). Ahmadis were among the first Muslims to come to the UK no doubt fleeing persecution back home. Unfortunately for them the current Multicultural ideologues have put paid to that.

Police is referring to it as 'treating it as religiously prejudiced', which is not the same as what you wrote. And it makes more sense to do the investigation that way and later possibly have to change than the other way round.
The Guardian did mention several times the police are treating it as 'religiously prejudiced', maybe next time better read before commenting.

Perhaps you ought to take your own advice about reading properly. My reply was to your own comment that Police said he (the accused) was a Muslim. I replied 'which begs the question why the guardian newspaper failed to mention THIS,

"why the guardian newspaper failed to mention this, or indeed that the police referred to it as religiously 'prejudiced'."

Because it's what the Guardian does, just like the BBC, bury's its head in the sand many many years ago in my old home town this is the sort of Muslim that lived there,those days are long gone, Edited March 27, 2016 by Scott

[stevenl]

Because it's what the Guardian does, just like the BBC, bury's its head in the sand many many years ago in my old home town this is the sort of Muslim that lived there,those days are long gone,

You're missing the point, the Guardian did mention it will be investigated as religiously prejudiced.

[i claudius]

Because it's what the Guardian does, just like the BBC, bury's its head in the sand many many years ago in my old home town this is the sort of Muslim that lived there,those days are long gone,

You're missing the point, the Guardian did mention it will be investigated as religiously prejudiced.

I don't read the Guardian,but did it mention it was a Muslim that did it?

[SgtRock]

At the current time, the alleged killer, who traveled from that wonderful cultural centre of Bradford, does not have a date for appearing in court.

He is unfit to appear due to his current injuries.

[Scott]

I had read that he was Amadiyya Muslim, which in Pakistan is not considered to be a part of Islam. People who are Amadiyya are routinely persecuted in Pakistan. It should also be noted that they hold Jesus as a more important part of their religion than do other branches of Islam.

[johnatong]

I had read that he was Amadiyya Muslim, which in Pakistan is not considered to be a part of Islam. People who are Amadiyya are routinely persecuted in Pakistan. It should also be noted that they hold Jesus as a more important part of their religion than do other branches of Islam.

A restrained comment.

Did you mean to say that Amadiyyya Muslims are routinely murdered in Pakistan by mobs of "real" Muslims few of whom are ever charged or bought to justice ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ahmadiyya_mosques_massacre

This is the reality associated with the mass importation of primitive peoples into Western society.

[SgtRock]

I had read that he was Amadiyya Muslim, which in Pakistan is not considered to be a part of Islam. People who are Amadiyya are routinely persecuted in Pakistan. It should also be noted that they hold Jesus as a more important part of their religion than do other branches of Islam.

* Cough * * Cough *

[Steely Dan]

If it needed confirming the murdered shopkeeper was treading on thin ice theologically, well that's if you take the norms of Islamic Countries from which immigration to the UK has been going on at breakneck speed.

https://islamqa.info/en/947

Needless to say copious amounts of foreign funding have kept the Mosques in step with the 7th century. Meanwhile liberals unwittingly use the hard working relatively assimilated Muslims as a cloak to hide their very persecutors behind. A nice sideline from using memories of the holocaust to facilitate antisemitism by making the perpetrator the victim.

[Khon Kaen Dave]

I agree,maybe he was just happy to be living in the UK and eager to intigrate.For this the poor guy gets killed.You are right,this is the kind of Muslim that the UK needs.Tolerant and a willingness to embrace all other religions.

RIP Jock,you were one of a kind.

[F4UCorsair]

It's been reported in the news too that the religion of the killer has been witheld.

Shameful


Better read the OP again. Police say the suspect is a muslim.

Edited March 27, 2016 by Scott

[tartempion]

That is the kind of Muslim the UK needs - i.e. one who is willing to integrate and respect the country he is so fortunate to have come to. RIP and hope they find the murderer soon.

Seems these people have no chance against the conservative Moslims

[Emster23]

I would imagine Scottish police investigate all murders, regardless of ethnicity or religion, unlike some places I know..... and follow the evidence where ever it leads....

[kamahele]

Hmmmm. Post about a Muslim murdered after wishing Christians a happy Easter has somehow become a place to post anti Muslim replies. I suppose the Christian thing to do would be to mourn the passing of someone who seems to have been a good man and give best wishes to his family upon the loss of their father / brother / husband...

Edited March 28, 2016 by kamahele

[SgtRock]

Hmmmm. Post about a Muslim murdered after wishing Christians a happy Easter has somehow become a place to post anti Muslim replies. I suppose the Christian thing to do would be to mourn the passing of someone who seems to have been a good man and give best wishes to his family upon the loss of their father / brother / husband...

A Muslim was murdered by another Muslim, who travelled over 200 miles to commit the crime. Where does Christianity come into it ?

Perhaps you meant the Christians who turned up at a vigil to pay their respects, offer condolences and also raised a large sum of money for the victims family.

That was really Christian of them.

[i claudius]

Hmmmm. Post about a Muslim murdered after wishing Christians a happy Easter has somehow become a place to post anti Muslim replies. I suppose the Christian thing to do would be to mourn the passing of someone who seems to have been a good man and give best wishes to his family upon the loss of their father / brother / husband...

Which is what many people have done , but dont that get in the way of your post .

[stevenl]

Hmmmm. Post about a Muslim murdered after wishing Christians a happy Easter has somehow become a place to post anti Muslim replies. I suppose the Christian thing to do would be to mourn the passing of someone who seems to have been a good man and give best wishes to his family upon the loss of their father / brother / husband...

Which is what many people have done , but dont that get in the way of your post .

Naw, the predominant answer here has been: those pesty muslims.

[Steely Dan]

Hmmmm. Post about a Muslim murdered after wishing Christians a happy Easter has somehow become a place to post anti Muslim replies. I suppose the Christian thing to do would be to mourn the passing of someone who seems to have been a good man and give best wishes to his family upon the loss of their father / brother / husband...

Which is what many people have done , but dont that get in the way of your post .

Naw, the predominant answer here has been: those pesty muslims.

Nope, damn those seventh century Islamo-Nazis and sympathy for the hard working peaceful ones who have to bear their revolting coreligionists. The restaurant owners on Brick lane being threatened with violence for allowing alcohol on their premises would understand.

[7by7]

Hmmmm. Post about a Muslim murdered after wishing Christians a happy Easter has somehow become a place to post anti Muslim replies. I suppose the Christian thing to do would be to mourn the passing of someone who seems to have been a good man and give best wishes to his family upon the loss of their father / brother / husband...

A Muslim was murdered by another Muslim, who travelled over 200 miles to commit the crime. Where does Christianity come into it ?

Perhaps you meant the Christians who turned up at a vigil to pay their respects, offer condolences and also raised a large sum of money for the victims family.

That was really Christian of them.

Muslims, of all sects, have paid there respects, condemned the brutal murder of a good, kind man and, although donations are anonymous so it cannot be proven, doubtless contributed to the fund for his family.

Mr Shah is far more representative of British Muslims than the thug who brutally murdered him.

As well as the comments made by kamahele, the Christian thing to do is remember that.

[Scott]

Inflammatory post removed.