webfact Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Thailand Mulling Purchase of Japanese Sub-Hunting AircraftBy Franz-Stefan GadyBangkok is also purportedly interested in amphibious rescue aircraft from Japan.BANGKOK: -- Thailand is considering the purchase of Japan’s first indigenously developed and built maritime patrol aircraft, the Kawasaki Heavy Industries P-1, along with US-2 maritime surveillance aircraft, Nikkei Asia Review reports.Japan’s defense minister, Gen Nakatani, is slated to meet Thailand’s deputy prime minister and defense minister, Prawit Wongsuwan, to discuss a possible arms deal in Bangkok on June 7. The talks will also cover discussions on deepening defense technology cooperation between the two countries.“The contract, a prerequisite for exports of defense equipment from Japan, would require Thailand to get Japan’s nod before transferring or using any of the supplied equipment and related technologies for purposes other than those initially set forth,” Nikkei Asia Review states.Full story: http://thediplomat.com/2016/06/thailand-mulling-purchase-of-japanese-sub-hunting-aircraft/-- THE DIPLOMAT 2016-06-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Yeah, those pesky Burmese and their infiltrating submarines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Really? a Submarine hunting aircraft? who's submarines? is this what all those 144 army generals thinking all day long is what to buy and who's going to come up with the most ridiculous war machine to buy... on the other hand, it could be that the Thai government is obliged to buy something from the Japanese on a reciprocal and bilateral bases..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The stuttering parrot Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Fancy buying any defence weaponry from Japan. Didnt do to good in their last war and after what was inflicted on Asia with little or no apology and sanitising the history of the war to its people I'm surprised they are even in this day and age allowed to participate in arms dealings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 (edited) Sounds like a good plan: Now when they lose their new subs they will have an effective way to find them Edited June 6, 2016 by SABloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Japanese aircraft to find Chinese submarines, then destroying Chinese submarines using American bombs !! priceless !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobin Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Considering the map of Thailand i can see that the South China Sea, now fully claimed by China as their sole property, comes very close to the southernmost border of Thailand. Thailand's oceanic economic zone might well be threatened by chinese fishing boats, air patrols and submarines. Better for Thailand to buy the air patrols than the subs. But be certain the airplanes have big guns as the chinese will not listen to words alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 No, this is not to detect & destroy enemy submarines; it to hopefully find some abandoned submarines which the Thai Navy could then fix-up and finally have some of their own subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheinwiese Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Really? a Submarine hunting aircraft? who's submarines? is this what all those 144 army generals thinking all day long is what to buy and who's going to come up with the most ridiculous war machine to buy... on the other hand, it could be that the Thai government is obliged to buy something from the Japanese on a reciprocal and bilateral bases..... Slight correction on your number: the Thai military has more than 1.750 flag officers (Generals and Admirals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheinwiese Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Really? a Submarine hunting aircraft? who's submarines? is this what all those 144 army generals thinking all day long is what to buy and who's going to come up with the most ridiculous war machine to buy... on the other hand, it could be that the Thai government is obliged to buy something from the Japanese on a reciprocal and bilateral bases..... Slight correction on your number: the Thai military has more than 1.750 flag officers (Generals and Admirals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Are they serious. The Khmer and Burmese submarine capability is what ? The only country they may need them for is the Japanese themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 “The contract, a prerequisite for exports of defense equipment from Japan, would require Thailand to get Japan’s nod before transferring or using any of the supplied equipment and related technologies for purposes other than those initially set forth,” A prime example for a future misunderstanding in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 All very well buying, but procurement must discipline the top brass ,store requisitions must carry more spares , nothing is interchangeable between Japanese, Chinese Americanese swedenese etc and so your running costs soar, better to have all your equipment from one or two sources and be friends with those partners than having sixty different defence budgets and in any conflict this could mean , no friends at all............................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 All very well buying, but procurement must discipline the top brass ,store requisitions must carry more spares , nothing is interchangeable between Japanese, Chinese Americanese swedenese etc and so your running costs soar, better to have all your equipment from one or two sources and be friends with those partners than having sixty different defence budgets and in any conflict this could mean , no friends at all............................................... Sixty different budgets means sixty different opportunities to "manage" those budgets. ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) It's all well and good buying all this new gear and strutting around like John Travolta at the beginning of Saturday Night Fever, but what happens should their bluff be called and pressure put upon them to stand up and be counted and actually use it? You can pretend to be everybody's pal when you have a low grade ramshackle military and play countries off against each other, but prepare to make enemies when you start playing with the big boys... Reason for edit: Dyslexic Samsung spellchecker. Edited June 7, 2016 by baboon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Wow, somebody is licking their chops over the 30% above MSRP price tag. How to justify the need? Simple, you never know when it will be necessary, with those pesky red shirts, to set up live fire torpedo zones in the Chao Praya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Because they are hunting for some subs to buy and someone told them these could help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Remember that for every $100 million / 3,500,000,000 baht the military and the PM will pocket at least ten times that in the purchasing process..So why not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 The P1 program isn't doing so well vs. the P8. It is not an unfathomable notion it could falter, and the Junta would have bought into a more expensive, dead end niche air frame. Unable to dump on the secondary market, they would rot on Thai tarmacs like piles of Shinawatra rice. Me thinks there is also a hint of the "other than America" political theme in this announcement, which PM/Junta have been keen on lately. The Boyz in Green don't like to be criticized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Big boys and their big boy toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Why do they need a sub hunting aircraft? The average depthof the gulf of Thailand is 58 m (190 ft). Any pilot flying a plane over the gulf could spot a submarine in the water using sight alone. This is a case of keeping up with the neighborhood, military style. "Vietnam's got one, I want one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Someone has left a pirate DVD of " The Hunt for Red October" lying around. It's a good thing it wasn't "Pirates of the Caribbean" or they would be trying to buy HMS Victory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKASA Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 When they first mentioned getting sub's I said no they need sub hunters first or maybe only - sub hunters are more then just sub hunters they can and are used in multi task missions - we even used them over land in Vietnam after a paint job. They make great search planes and can monitor fishing fleets while still tracking any sub's - they can find and report pollution like oil spills and often follow it to the source. Location location location it is most important that they are stationed in the right area to be most effective - you can be sure they work better then air ships that can't fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 And the beat goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 When they first mentioned getting sub's I said no they need sub hunters first or maybe only - sub hunters are more then just sub hunters they can and are used in multi task missions - we even used them over land in Vietnam after a paint job. They make great search planes and can monitor fishing fleets while still tracking any sub's - they can find and report pollution like oil spills and often follow it to the source. Location location location it is most important that they are stationed in the right area to be most effective - you can be sure they work better then air ships that can't fly. think it is an excellent idea as long as they can be used for rain making activities. drought is thailands biggest enemy at the moment not foreign subs. wonder if rain making really works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Sounds like a good plan: Now when they lose their new subs they will have an effective way to find them You beat me too it ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Just how many Japanese subs do they need to hunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Fancy buying any defence weaponry from Japan. Didnt do to good in their last war and after what was inflicted on Asia with little or no apology and sanitising the history of the war to its people I'm surprised they are even in this day and age allowed to participate in arms dealings. Around the time of the last war, the UK had a car and motorcycle industry............... And if you think WWII Japanese weaponry, ships and aircraft were crap, you have a lot to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 All very well buying, but procurement must discipline the top brass ,store requisitions must carry more spares , nothing is interchangeable between Japanese, Chinese Americanese swedenese etc and so your running costs soar, better to have all your equipment from one or two sources and be friends with those partners than having sixty different defence budgets and in any conflict this could mean , no friends at all............................................... But many lunch boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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