Monk arrested as six year old boy murdered and sodomized in Khon Kaen

[chilli42]

I am not defending any of this, it's horrific.  The only thing that surprises me is that people expect that those in religious life to be different than the rest of humanity.  The fact is that they are just people like the rest of us.  There are many reasons for entering religious life.  Some of these are the good/right reasons and some are not. Some do great good and some great harm, just like the rest of us. Regardless of the reason for entering religious life, these people are like everyone else they have to struggle and overcome their own demons.  Stop putting them on a pedestal and they will stop disappointing you.

[bbbbooboo]

6 hours ago, colinneil said:

Monk again  !!!! bloody disgusting, let the scum lose with some mothers for 15 minutes.

After that there would be no need for a trial, the scum would be dead.

When are people going to start thinking a monk is a man, not someone special.

 

Poor little boy, what a tragic thing to happen.

I hope he finds peace in his afterlife.

hmmm.....dead man walking?

[Prbkk]

4 hours ago, frog555 said:

Although I am not catholic, I have to say that you forgot : Protestants, Jews and Muslim, and others.

 

Well, yes. They are as bad as each other. Without straying too far off the topic, I think Clive James was close to the mark when he suggested that organized religions are like advertising agencies for a product that doesn't exist.

[DM07]

RIP, little guy!

IF the monk did it, lock him away for life!

I heard, they have  special place in their heart for kiddie- fiddlers and child- killers in Sing -Sing!

[hobobo]

6 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Recently a monk checked into my hotel in Bkk, along with 2 teenage boys, maybe 14 - 16 years old.

 

Room locked for 2 days. Room service meals left outside the door.

 

Then check out, monk paid room, meals and alcohol in cash.

I bet he wasn't giving them instructions in Buddhism!

[Enoon]

Pointless to argue the pros and cons of Buddhism or any religion.

 

There are plenty of genuine, devout individuals in the temples and monasteries but:

 

The system is that anyone can stroll into a temple and play monk for as long as they like.

 

It provides "sanctuary" in the way that the monasteries and churches of medieval europe did.

 

They are full of low-life scum "hiding out".

 

Thai society seems to think that they become cleansed, even though while they are dressed in the saffron they pretty much carry on as before.

 

After a suitable period they return outside.

 

Top to bottom,  Suthep to the local Yaba dealer.   All are redeemed.

 

And they carry on as before.

 

Look at any aspect of Thai society/culture/politics.   They all exist in different periods, none of them comparable with their counterparts in the contemporary West. 

 

The Thai non-secular world remains firmly in the Medieval period.   Some of it belongs even further back.

 

Edited October 11, 2016 by Enoon

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

A couple of differences between Buddhist monks and Catholic priests, just as one example:

 

--Young men don't get temporarily inducted into the Catholic priesthood for a couple months as a rite of passage.

 

--Men don't get to become Catholic priests as an alternative to going to jail because of some wrongdoing they've committed as regular citizens.

 

--Families who have troubled you men don't get to unload them into being Catholic priests.

 

And at least one similarity:

 

--They're both supposed to maintain their vows of celibacy, and too many members of both groups have been proven unable to control themselves to honor those vows.

 

 

 

[Benmart]

A six-year-old boy has been murdered and sodomized according to the police.

A monk has been arrested in connection with the murder.

I am not Thai, not a Thai Policeman who was at the scene, nor am I licensed to practice Thai law.

I don't know any of the above that have fist hand knowledge of this heinous crime, which is still being investigated.

I would not presume to compare this crime, to any foreign religious denomination, based in Rome, as others have.

I do not possess some supernatural or earthly ability to act as investigator, judge, jury (which does not to exist here) or executioner.

I leave the self-anointed, self-appointed experts , to broadcast their lack of credibility or intellectual restraint, for all to read.

[Acharn]

10 hours ago, Pungdo said:

I have to admit that I have not a lot of respect for monks, a good number are just draft dodgers or lazy men who don't want to work for a living, problem is which ones are men who truly believe in their faith and which ones are scum like this particular monk.

 

 

I'm always surprised at how many people accept stories of suspicion as being hard and fast evidence of guilt. After our disgraceful election season in America I'm skeptical of any story I see in print.

[madusa]

On 10/10/2016 at 6:54 PM, scorecard said:

 

Recently a monk checked into my hotel in Bkk, along with 2 teenage boys, maybe 14 - 16 years old.

 

Room locked for 2 days. Room service meals left outside the door.

 

Then check out, monk paid room, meals and alcohol in cash.

Scorecard, I hope what you said is true. Monks are not allowed to stay in hotel or even private homes, they must stay in temples unless there is no temple.

[farcanell]

11 hours ago, bsdthai said:

This is one of sicker things we hear daily. Absolutely atrocious. 

Religious people arent mentaly fit to be held with such high regard.

Im not religious but look at buddhism with a set of beliefs to admire. Sadly it must be lost in translation or something.

 

I came to Thailand, several years ago, with the belief that Buddhism was the best of religious teachings.

 

unfortunately, the more I learn, the further down Buddhism goes, in my esteem.

 

its not just these atrocious incidents, but perhaps more so that a bad or evil person, can simply escape into the priesthood, to avoid natural justice.

 

It's pathetic and lamentable.... the grand poobar of Buddhism really needs to instigate wide ranging reforms, before Buddhism becomes vilified. (Or is it too late, already?)

[farcanell]

1 hour ago, Benmart said:

A six-year-old boy has been murdered and sodomized according to the police.

A monk has been arrested in connection with the murder.

I am not Thai, not a Thai Policeman who was at the scene, nor am I licensed to practice Thai law.

I don't know any of the above that have fist hand knowledge of this heinous crime, which is still being investigated.

I would not presume to compare this crime, to any foreign religious denomination, based in Rome, as others have.

I do not possess some supernatural or earthly ability to act as investigator, judge, jury (which does not to exist here) or executioner.

I leave the self-anointed, self-appointed experts , to broadcast their lack of credibility or intellectual restraint, for all to read.

 

No point in commenting then, was there?

[farcanell]

6 hours ago, chilli42 said:

I am not defending any of this, it's horrific.  The only thing that surprises me is that people expect that those in religious life to be different than the rest of humanity.  The fact is that they are just people like the rest of us.  There are many reasons for entering religious life.  Some of these are the good/right reasons and some are not. Some do great good and some great harm, just like the rest of us. Regardless of the reason for entering religious life, these people are like everyone else they have to struggle and overcome their own demons.  Stop putting them on a pedestal and they will stop disappointing you.

 

Not.

 

these people put themselves into positions of authority, trust and respect... they then abuse that.... which is completely unacceptable.

 

you don't have to agree with this... but thankfully, the courts in most lands, do

Edited October 11, 2016 by farcanell

[Artisi]

6 hours ago, off road pat said:

let's not jump into conclusions ! the monk is innocent until proven guilty !!!

A bit like the young boy, innocent until sodomised  and murdered. 

[Canceraid]

This horrendous crime could have been prevented if the police force was properly utilised in having patrols around various local areas to watch for abnormal or suspicious activities, instead resources in the police force was used to terrorize and humiliate tourists in bangkok. 

[Canceraid]

By way was is wrong with the world these days.....why are so many perverts obsessed with young male kids these days......real sick!.....seems that boys these days need to be protected more than girls! Something is really not right!

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, madusa said:

Scorecard, I hope what you said is true. Monks are not allowed to stay in hotel or even private homes, they must stay in temples unless there is no temple.

 

I know that, and it shocked me and the other Thai guests that the hotel actually allowed the monk to even check-in let alone with two young teenage boys. And there is a very large well known large temple complex further down the same soi, perhaps 4 minutes walk from the hotel.

 

Some guests asked whether they checked out early the next morning, which they didn't. Some guests asked the lobby and restaurant staff if they were still checked-in and then whether they had been seen for meals etc. The junior restaurant staff talked openly and said the monk has many times called room service and ordered meals, with an instruction to leave the plates / trays, beer etc., outside the door in the hallway.

 

Gossip is that the monk had a wad of Thai cash from which he paid the bills when they did check-out. They left in a taxi - again outside of how monks should travel. 

Edited October 11, 2016 by scorecard

[gdgbb]

12 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Recently a monk checked into my hotel in Bkk, along with 2 teenage boys, maybe 14 - 16 years old.

 

Room locked for 2 days. Room service meals left outside the door.

 

Then check out, monk paid room, meals and alcohol in cash.

None of your story makes sense. How do you know that the room was locked for 2 days, did you try it?  But what is odd about a hotel room being locked anyway, do you leave yours un

locked?  Why would meals ordered from room service be left unconsumed outside?

Edited October 11, 2016 by gdgbb

[balo]

14 hours ago, TomJoad said:

A Thai friend of mine once mentioned that families will sometimes encourage troubled family members to join the monk hood if they have problems (like alcohol, drugs, or emotional issues) they can't solve on their own.

 

Isn't this the truth for 90% of them ?  I don't understand this trust in monks here , they are not holy people at all , they are just people with lots of problems , put them in a temple and see how long they can stay away from sins .  

 

   

[LotusBoy]

15 hours ago, TweedleDee said:

Steady lads, let's not break out the lynchin' ropes just yet. Innocent until proven guilty, even in TL.

 

 

Pol Col Banjong Sirisut, the Director of Mancha Khiri District Police Station, stated that Niran confessed to anal raping Oat to death with another 15-year-old man referred to as ‘Aek’ and dumped the body behind the temple. The two now stand accused of rape and murder.

 

another news source!! Read it slowly and think again!

[TweedleDee]

5 hours ago, LotusBoy said:

 

Pol Col Banjong Sirisut, the Director of Mancha Khiri District Police Station, stated that Niran confessed to anal raping Oat to death with another 15-year-old man referred to as ‘Aek’ and dumped the body behind the temple. The two now stand accused of rape and murder.

 

another news source!! Read it slowly and think again!

 

5 hours ago, LotusBoy said:

 

 

When you've been here a while, you get to know that it ain't necessarily so just because one of Thailand's finest says so. Better to await the court verdict, though I'm not at all sure they're any more competent than the police here.

 

If it is true though, it's pretty dire and a shocking condemnation of Thai Buddhism, - no better than western catholicism perhaps...?

[Xircal]

14 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Recently a monk checked into my hotel in Bkk, along with 2 teenage boys, maybe 14 - 16 years old.

 

Room locked for 2 days. Room service meals left outside the door.

 

Then check out, monk paid room, meals and alcohol in cash.

 

Why didn't you call the police if you suspected something was going on?

[JayBeeee]

The lad's body was found yesterday afternoon! The police later arrested the monk, no reason being given for suspecting him and too early for DNA test results! The monk denies any involvement!

How come every response I've read so far already has him tried, convicted, castrated and killed? With one exception that started with, "(if he did it)", before joining the lynch mob.

 

I really should stop scrolling down to the mindless comments!

Edited October 11, 2016 by JayBeeee

[JayBeeee]

54 minutes ago, TweedleDee said:

 

 

When you've been here a while, you get to know that it ain't necessarily so just because one of Thailand's finest says so. Better to await the court verdict, though I'm not at all sure they're any more competent than the police here.

 

If it is true though, it's pretty dire and a shocking condemnation of Thai Buddhism, - no better than western catholicism perhaps...?

 

Nothing to do with Buddhism! Wearing orange robes doesn't make a monk! I don't think I've witnessed any Buddhism in all the years I've been here!

They're just a bunch of lazy SOBs that love being bowed to by fools.

[pattayahenry]

17 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

RIP the poor little soul.

 

I keep trying to point out to my wife's family that Monks are just men wearing yellow robes and you can't change a mans mentality, character or temperament just by changing his clothes.   However; they are brainwashed into thinking these people are some kind of Saints !

there is a deeper meaning for becoming a monk. by treating former ordinary men like saints, they will change their behavior, their mentality and character, and actually turn into better humans. unfortunatly that does not work for everybody.

 

[webfact]

Monk and teenager ‘confess’ to raping and killing 6-year-old boy

Pornpan Phetchsaen,
Jitima Janphrom,
Siwa Loho
The Nation

 

 

KHON KAEN: -- A 36-YEAR-OLD monk and a 15-year-old boy have been arrested for allegedly raping and killing a six-year-old boy in Khon Kaen’s Mancha Khiri district.

 

The two had confessed to the crime, Provincial Police Region 4 acting chief Pol Maj-General Jatupol Panraksa told the press yesterday.

The body of the second grader who attended Ban Nong Moung-Lup Kha School was found covered in twigs and leaves on Monday morning under a tree behind Wat Sawang Khongkaram.

 

Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Monk-and-teenager-confess-to-raping-and-killing-6--30297469.html

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2016-10-12

[noitom]

The moink will probably receive a Thai transfer.

[TweedleDee]

4 hours ago, pattayahenry said:

there is a deeper meaning for becoming a monk. by treating former ordinary men like saints, they will change their behavior, their mentality and character, and actually turn into better humans. unfortunatly that does not work for everybody.

 

 

It's a good point, but I don't think it's right. Many people feel the need to abase themselves before someone they feel is spiritually or symbolically superior to them. It's a basic need of many people and usually has the function of allowing themselves to feel better about themselves. So naturally, when it is done, they potter off to resume all the sinful behaviours that made them want to prostrate themselves in the first place.

 

It's my belief that many, perhaps even most Thais are full of a sense of self-loathing. It's a psychological problem which probably accounts for the sky-high but hidden (by the government) rate of mental health issues in TL.

[George Graham]

I lived in Thailand for 18 years. I only met one Buddhist in all that time. She was from Switzerland.

[fruitman]

Jailtime is not sufficient for these animals...i see a nice big tree on that picture, hang em high.