webfact Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Phuket officials ponder ways to remove steel rods from Kamala Beach Eakkapop Thongtub Local officials inspect the rusty steel rods. Photo: Eakkapop Thongtub PHUKET: -- Officials from the Kamala Administration Office (OrBorTor) are currently considering the best way to remove several rusty steel bars buried in the sand at Kamala beach which pose a threat to beachgoers. The Phuket News learned that local residents in Kamala noticed the six rusty rods, which protrude about 50 centimetres out of the sand, last week during low-tide. Mr Sompong Maisaprao, a local resident and staffer at Kamala OrBorTor, said, “When it is high-tide beachgoers will not be able to see these steel rods, this is very dangerous. The rods cannot be pulled out by hand so machinery will have to be used.” He went on to say that the rods were placed in the sand some 15 years ago when a shrimp farm operated from the location. Full story: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-officials-ponder-ways-to-remove-steel-rods-from-kamala-beach-59927.php -- © Copyright Phuket News 2016-11-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinot Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I can't believe it's taken this long to do something about this danger. On second thought...yes I can. Why now anyway? The amazing thing is, no one has been killed by these spikes sticking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Get a JCB in and dig them out,I am sure the cannot be that deep, dig out ,refill, stop the pondering. regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) bloody ell that is a very hard question to solve, and it made the news lol , i give up . i was thinking helicopter, but then maybe a bit of a sandstorm,he he Edited November 21, 2016 by mercman24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Shovels? Just a suggestion..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 They will remove the metal posts and the whole beach will wash away into the ocean. 555, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Oh my! are they aware that there is machinery to do nearly every job that needs to be accomplished? Google it!? I found an lot of solutions in minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pungdo Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 A backhoe with a decent 3 or 4 way bucket could grab them, quick wiggle and then just pull them out, not hard, I used to pull star pickets driven a metre or more into clay out with a Dingo back home (Like a small Bobcat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, mercman24 said: bloody ell that is a very hard question to solve, and it made the news lol , i give up . i was thinking helicopter, but then maybe a bit of a sandstorm,he he These are the guys that manage the place (and this is only 6 of them!), any wonder things are so disconbobulated in Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhendis Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 hours ago, worgeordie said: Get a JCB in and dig them out,I am sure the cannot be that deep, dig out ,refill, stop the pondering. regards Worgeordie Good idea but what's on the other end of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak sa_ngop Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Sorry to be picky but it's 'discombobulated' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaZa9 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Pungdo said: A backhoe with a decent 3 or 4 way bucket could grab them, quick wiggle and then just pull them out, not hard, I used to pull star pickets driven a metre or more into clay out with a Dingo back home (Like a small Bobcat) The Or Bor Tor here in Kamala already has one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatproblem Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 That's what's called a Thai brain teaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhd Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 how many thais does it take to remove a steel rod from sand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Get the army or navy to bring some of their fun time explosives, Sell tickets to watch the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Muhendis said: Good idea but what's on the other end of them? The center of the earth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 No doubt JCB rental companies are already putting in their bids. Highest wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 hours ago, Pinot said: I can't believe it's taken this long to do something about this danger. On second thought...yes I can. Why now anyway? The amazing thing is, no one has been killed by these spikes sticking out. they were hoping they would just rust away (maybe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 hours ago, rak sa_ngop said: Sorry to be picky but it's 'discombobulated' Thanks for the correction...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Remove? Let some local politician/police spokesperson/official (or get one from BKK) to "talk" them out of the sand! Sheesh, I can be such a cynic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Six officials pondering? Well, I suppose there are six rods. Just lucky there were not a lot more, otherwise the local government offices would have been empty. to help with the pondering. Then of course, they still have to be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIWIBATCH Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Dig them out....no hang on...we must take our time and "ponder"...."Somchai be a good lad and go and get some more staff from the office because I am having trouble "pondering" and need some fresh input for the problem we have on how to deal with these rods" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 they are trying to figure out how to profit from the act of removing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said: they are trying to figure out how to profit from the act of removing them. Apparently the rods which would have been copper clad were driven into the sand to a depth of at least 2.5m so that electrical equipment could be grounded and used safely. See the 4th paragraph under the heading "Suggested improvements" in this link: http://www.fao.org/3/contents/7783bdd4-fc2b-52bb-99cb-2f0c5553550b/AB753e00.htm#ch3.2.2 I've seen articles in news media of copper wire being nicked in Thailand so all that needs to happen is to let potential thieves know that there are six copper clad rods sitting in the sand waiting for some enterprising individuals to come dig them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnx355 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 14 hours ago, Redline said: Oh my! are they aware that there is machinery to do nearly every job that needs to be accomplished? Google it!? I found an lot of solutions in minutes Maybe they are wondering how to take the rods out without spending any money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats56 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 For crying out loud. Get a backhoe a sling or a chain and pull them straight out using the bucket. Use to pull old fence post out the same way. easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 7 hours ago, cnx355 said: Maybe they are wondering how to take the rods out without spending any money.... No ... they are wondering how they can make a backhander from the rod removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 In many ways this matter is a microcosm of the whole country. When they decided to remove the fish farm many years ago to make way for a tourist beach, whom ever was responsible for removing the residue of the farm decided to leave the job unfinished - probably because it was too hard. The danger was out of sight, ergo out of mind, until a very low tide, probably related to the super moon, brought the danger to light again forcing those in charge to take some action.. The danger was previously known judging by the half hearted attempts to make the rods safer by putting plastic bottles over them (see link). Apparently people do swim at that beach, and some tourists must have lost skin on the hazards over the years. Their complaints would have been simply ignored by officials who should have done something about it. Now that the problem has literally resurfaced, the local authority should have immediately dispatched council machinery to fix the problem. Instead, they convened a meeting on site, no doubt with travel costs and lunch nearby reimbursed. The next step will to prepare the a submission to send up the line seeking an exorbitant amount of funds to get the job done. After receipt of funding, they will send the front end loader onto the beach to remove the posts and disperse the monies appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 yesteryear's shark attacks are today's rods in the sand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Old Croc said: In many ways this matter is a microcosm of the whole country. When they decided to remove the fish farm many years ago to make way for a tourist beach, whom ever was responsible for removing the residue of the farm decided to leave the job unfinished - probably because it was too hard. The danger was out of sight, ergo out of mind, until a very low tide, probably related to the super moon, brought the danger to light again forcing those in charge to take some action.. The danger was previously known judging by the half hearted attempts to make the rods safer by putting plastic bottles over them (see link). Apparently people do swim at that beach, and some tourists must have lost skin on the hazards over the years. Their complaints would have been simply ignored by officials who should have done something about it. Now that the problem has literally resurfaced, the local authority should have immediately dispatched council machinery to fix the problem. Instead, they convened a meeting on site, no doubt with travel costs and lunch nearby reimbursed. The next step will to prepare the a submission to send up the line seeking an exorbitant amount of funds to get the job done. After receipt of funding, they will send the front end loader onto the beach to remove the posts and disperse the monies appropriately. Well stated ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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