Australian woman was not raped by tuktuk driver, claim police

[Jonathan Fairfield]

Australian woman was not raped by tuktuk driver, claim police 

 

BANGKOK:-- A 21-year-old Australian tourist was mistaken when she said she was raped by a tuktuk driver at a parking lot in Bangkok, said Metropolitan Police commissioner Lt-General Sanit Mahathavorn.

 

Sanit Monday said CCTV footage identified a suspect, whom police had confirmed was not driving a tuktuk but a motorcycle. 

 

It would take up to two days to confirm the suspect’s identity and the vehicle used because the footage was not clear, he said, adding that forensic results and the victim’s physical examination report would be sent to police Tuesday.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/breakingnews/30301957

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2016-12-12

 

RELATED: Bangkok police have doubts over Australian woman's rape claim
 

 

[ukrules]

Does it really matter what vehicle he was driving before he raped her ?

[ratcatcher]

2 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Does it really matter what vehicle he was driving before he raped her ?

Why would she say a tuk tuk as opposed to a motorcycle?

[chrisinth]

IMO, when the word of a person who is drunk enough that they cannot even walk is taken literally and then released by the media broadcasting a story that is not true, that should be held accountable.

 

Accusations like this do not go away.

 

That said, it does appear that the victim was indeed sexually assaulted (raped) and i hope the police catch the person responsible.

 

In the original story did she not say she was assaulted by two males? I wonder if that still stands as there was not mention of the second person in today's report.

[fruitman]

She already was lucky that the wok she went to sit in wasn't full of boiling hot oil. She shouldn't drink so much when she's alone in a strange city in another continent.

[optad]

Don't courts decide what happened and the police collect data and investigate accusations?

 

Meh ~ Care factor / TV  forum decides anyhow .

[KhaoNiaw]

I have some sympathy with the police on this one. It seems like they're trying to do their job and not just make the case disappear quickly.  Sympathy for the victim too but it seems she was so drunk that she's unable to help the investigation. If they do actually make an arrest, it's going to be down to good police work.   

Edited December 12, 2016 by KhaoNiaw

[Wilsonandson]

This is the deserted building where she was allegedly raped.

 

58 58 Borommaratchachonnani 43 Alley

https://goo.gl/maps/iqTarykc7SF2

[fruitman]

32 minutes ago, Wilsonandson said:

This is the deserted building where she was allegedly raped.

 

58 58 Borommaratchachonnani 43 Alley

https://goo.gl/maps/iqTarykc7SF2

 

Yup and this is far from kao sarn road, i wonder why she went there in her state. There are no hotels there, it's at the other side of the river to the kao sarn road area. 

 

Was she alone in BKK on a holiday and drinking so much? It's a strange story.

[daveAustin]

Lucky she's not in Dubai or she'd be locked up indefinitely (or stoned) for the pleasure of being raped by someone other than her husband. Yuck!

Edited December 12, 2016 by daveAustin

[Moonmoon]

After watching several Thai news source, this is what I get from RTP and witnesses accounts.

 

Hospital Checkup determine that sexual intercourse took place but whether from consensual or rape is undetermined.

There are no signs or symptoms or bruises of strangulation or slapping or beating on her body as claimed.

There are no marks from branches, leaves, sand, rubble, gravel from getting dragged around.

There are no signs of a struggle that took place where Yaya claims she was allegedly raped.

According to the Thai woman who brought Yaya to the police station, she initially refused to be brought to the police station when offered to.

 

There were 5 male suspects that were brought before Yaya and she identified 1 of them as a potential suspect but was only 80% sure cos she couldnt remember what really happened but she is sure she was raped. This was the 3rd time the RTP invited her to identify a suspect.

 

Its confusing when the sources here are saying this and when I watch the Thai news in Thai Language they are saying another thing.

 

Don't judge me I am just offering more info from the sources I have.

 

[worgeordie]

She was that drunk ,how could she possibly stay on the back 

of a motor bike, 

regards worgeordie

[webfact]

Police reject tuk-tuk rape claim
By JESSADA CHANTHARAK, 
SURIYA PATATHAYO 
THE NATION

 

 

BANGKOK: -- A 21-YEAR-OLD Australian tourist was mistaken when she said she was raped by a tuk-tuk driver at a parking lot in Bangkok, said Metropolitan Police commissioner Lt-General Sanit Mahathavorn.

 

Sanit yesterday said CCTV footage identified a suspect, whom police had confirmed was not driving a tuk-tuk but a motorcycle. 

 

It would take up to two days to confirm the suspect’s identity and the vehicle used because the footage was not clear, he said, adding that forensic results and the victim’s physical examination report would be sent to police today.

 

However, the victim said in additional testimony to police yesterday that she was raped by a tuk-tuk driver and his friend, Taling Chan Police Station inspector Major Seksit Paeloy said.

 

Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30301984

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2016-12-13

[optad]

It is an honest assessment of where Thailand wants to be.

 

Edited December 12, 2016 by optad

[louse1953]

14 hours ago, chrisinth said:

IMO, when the word of a person who is drunk enough that they cannot even walk is taken literally and then released by the media broadcasting a story that is not true, that should be held accountable.

 

Accusations like this do not go away.

 

That said, it does appear that the victim was indeed sexually assaulted (raped) and i hope the police catch the person responsible.

 

In the original story did she not say she was assaulted by two males? I wonder if that still stands as there was not mention of the second person in today's report.

And a hospital confirmed she had been raped.

[1337markus]

Just imagine the boost tourism will get once the Australian media run their account of this issue?

[chrisinth]

10 minutes ago, louse1953 said:

And a hospital confirmed she had been raped.

 

Yep, I already recognized that fact in my post.

 

Edit: It appears that the victim is stating once again that it was a tuk-tuk driver and his friend that committed the offence. Post ID: 13 on this thread.

Edited December 13, 2016 by chrisinth

[williamgeorgeallen]

14 hours ago, optad said:

Don't courts decide what happened and the police collect data and investigate accusations?

 

Meh ~ Care factor / TV  forum decides anyhow .

the cops do the investigation and then decide weather to hand the case on to a prosecutor to be dealt with in court. interesting system where the cops are often 'persuaded' to not hand many cases on.

[soalbundy]

15 hours ago, ukrules said:

Does it really matter what vehicle he was driving before he raped her ?

because it shows how far out of her tiny mind she was, two men ? a tuk tuk ? was she even raped ? she will prove to be a reliable witness no doubt. When the alcoholic fog disappears from her addled brain we will no doubt hear from her how her life has been ruined, some life.

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

because it shows how far out of her tiny mind she was, two men ? a tuk tuk ? was she even raped ? she will prove to be a reliable witness no doubt. When the alcoholic fog disappears from her addled brain we will no doubt hear from her how her life has been ruined, some life.

 

Everyone who's never had that much to drink, step to the front of the class to receive your wings...

 

There but for the grace of God...   (Luck of the draw for you atheists)

[Retiredandhappyhere]

The Nation's headline is misleading as it suggests that the lady was not raped, whereas the article indicates that she was probably not raped by tuk tuk drivers.  Two different interpretations entirely and very upsetting for the lady if her story turns out to be true, irrespective of whether a tuk tuk or a motor cycle was involved. Naturally there are many who would prefer a result which does not cast yet another shadow on tourism, with the lady's feelings coming very much a second best in the order of things.

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Everyone who's never had that much to drink, step to the front of the class to receive your wings...

 

There but for the grace of God...   (Luck of the draw for you atheists)

never been that out of it, in fact i have never gone beyond a little tipsy.

[hobobo]

15 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

Why would she say a tuk tuk as opposed to a motorcycle?

She was so drunk she saw double, so a two-wheel motorcycle becomes a tuk tuk....

[soalbundy]

Just now, hobobo said:

She was so drunk she saw double, so a two-wheel motorcycle becomes a tuk tuk....

and one man becomes two

[impulse]

15 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

Why would she say a tuk tuk as opposed to a motorcycle?

 

We had a recent thread where guys who have been here for 10 years couldn't agree on what's a tuk-tuk, what's a baht bus and what's a songteaw (sp?).

 

I can understand why a tourist would confuse what's a motosai and what's a tuk-tuk.  

 

Besides, of all the things she's recalling about that night, the number of wheels on the scooter probably isn't pushing to the very top.

 

On the TVF conspiracy side, the initial story says it was a tuk-tuk driver joined by some of his friends.  Perhaps his friends drove scooters?  Or maybe it's just incomplete reporting?

 

Edited December 13, 2016 by impulse

[impulse]

10 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

never been that out of it, in fact i have never gone beyond a little tipsy.

 

Probably never had anyone doctor your drink either.  Yet it happens to good people.  

 

As I said, there but for the luck of the draw... (Grace of God for all you religious types)

[Baerboxer]

16 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

Why would she say a tuk tuk as opposed to a motorcycle?

 

Alcohol. 

[soalbundy]

16 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

Why would she say a tuk tuk as opposed to a motorcycle?

better class of rapist

[smedly]

one of the problems I see here is a general failure of a lot of people on this forum to understand exactly what defines a rape, and yes I am mindful of the fact that this is Thailand and their understanding of what defines a rape is likely incorrect also.

 

Many here are claiming this girl was irresponsible - to an extent that could be true, but if she was in such a state were she didn't know what she was doing and two men took advantage of that fact and decided to take her to an isolated location and  basically force themselves upon her - then that is rape, nobody here knows exactly how aware or not she was of what was happening - either way it doesn't matter,   it is especially vile when those that supposedly took advantage of this poor girl were in fact taxi drivers of one sort or another who are duty bound and responsible to ensure she gets to her residence in safely.

[Destiny1990]

13 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Lucky she's not in Dubai or she'd be locked up indefinitely (or stoned) for the pleasure of being raped by someone other than her husband. Yuck!

Yes really lucky for her that she was raped in Bangkok!!