Where can i buy freshly baked bread?

[fruitman]

I have no idea which bakery i can trust to have ONLY dailt fresh bread, i need fresh wholewheat bread.

 

Yamazaki, Breadtalk, Gateaux, S&P,Makro and so like to sell old bread and call it daily fresh so which bakery in BKK has ALWAYS daily fresh bread?? I'm tired of checking it all the time and always buy a lot so it can go in the freezer at home.

[Kwasaki]

My Big 'C' does me fine, just need to know the best time to go.  

[burgerking]

Why don't you do what a lot of us do.. Buy a bread machine. Set it before you go to bed and wake up to fresh bread and a great aroma. Available at Central Department Store.

[billd766]

My bread machine died a few years ago so I make it the sort of old fashioned way and by lunchtime I have a large baguette or fresh bread rolls which have passed both the Thai and the farang taste test.

[seajae]

Yamazaki makes  a great loaf(square not the hi top), its really crusty and I occasionally get the 12 grain form tesco, thats pretty good too,

[oldcarguy]

Tops under Robinsons sells all the bread at discount after about 8pm ,

 

so I assume they get new stock in the morning.....

 

 

[KhunBENQ]

A bit hidden that you refer to Bangkok.

 

Definition of what bread is varies widely.

You are happy with white French type bread (baguette, rolls  etc.)?

Not my favorite, just for a change.

 

 

[KittenKong]

All the big store bakeries in Pattaya (BigC, Tops, Makro) bake several times every day: you can see the ovens working. Always selling out in the evening is a good sign also, and those that do generally discount from around 7-8pm as mentioned, which is always worth looking for. I imagine they do the same in Bangkok.

 

I expect that the small bakeries bake daily also. The only places that may not have today's bread are the supermarkets like Friendship or Villa where it is bought in from outside and wrapped in cling film, and I'm a bit suspicious of those.

 

I also make my own bread without a bread machine: just a small oven and a large Pyrex bowl with lid, and a cheap stand mixer. Three hours, start to finish, for a perfect crusty farmhouse loaf at a total cost of under 25B. The actual work involved is less than 10 minutes total as I dont knead by hand and I have the process down to fine art. Overnight for a sour dough loaf.

[daveAustin]

Do you buy a mix or source yeast/flour? Seem to be struggling with decent flour. I really miss good bread.

[KittenKong]

2 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Do you buy a mix or source yeast/flour? Seem to be struggling with decent flour. I really miss good bread.

 

I dont use mixes. I either buy the gold packet of bread flour at Makro for about 34B/kg or the lovely imported organic UK flour that Tops/Central sell. But that costs about 150B for 1.5kg.

 

Yeast I get in a big 500g pack from Makro for about 100B. You need to be a bit careful because they sell two types, one for use with enriched (sweet) breads and one for plain bread. The writing on the pack is mostly in Thai or Arabic so not very clear.

[juice777]

Why don't you do what a lot of us do.. Buy a bread machine. Set it before you go to bed and wake up to fresh bread and a great aroma. Available at Central Department Store.

Do you know how much they cost?

I've never seen one in Thailand

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[bendejo]

Bottom floor of Siam Paragon, near the entrance to the supermarket is a bakery.  It's either Yamazaki or the same company under a different name.   It's the one tucked in the corner next to the motor stairs.  The mall at Phrom Phong had the same bakery, up on the floor with the eateries.  With a little bit of sleuthing you can get an idea of when the bread comes out of the oven.  My faves were these places plus the one in Pinklao Plaza.

 

It's been a few years since I lived there, so I have no idea if any of these still exist.

 

 

[oldcarguy]

 Big C  across from Central world has a good bakery and a big turnover,

 

normally when I go there the beard is still warm

[burgerking]

Take a look here also online shopping available        http://www.verasu.com/main1.php

 

Hope this helps.

[fruitman]

As i wrote, ALL those bakeries like Makro, Breadtalk, SP, Gateaux, Yamazaki, Tops do the same trick...they DO bake everyday but still sell it 3-4 days later...Wake up you guys...and if you only see a sticker with an expirydate you can be sure they try to cheat you...That's the trick they play, also even Breadtalk does it (which is from minorgroup, that american from Sizzlers, Swensson, Pizzacompany so he really disappointed me this time).

 

If a bread is one day old i immediatly taste/feel/smell it and get turned off...fresh bread tastes/smells/bites so much better.

 

I always bought the sunflowerseed breads from Breadtalk, 100 baht a small loaf but i won't buy it anymore since i noticed they sell it a day later. I always buy for 500-1000 baht in those bakeries to freeze it but now i want to find a real bakery who doesn't cheat me.

 

That breadmix from the Makro is not real breadmix, real bread should get fungus after 3 days on the counter. If that doesn't happen it means there are many chemicals in it.

 

The breadmachines sound good but where can i buy the real breadmix? I don't want to weigh or do much effort to bake a bread, just throw some mix plus water in a machine is what i'm willing to do, nothing more. Actually i prefer to buy fresh ham/cheese rolls with real ham and real cheese...All the croissant/danish stuff they sell in the Thai bakeries is not what i want. Custard buns are fine or just the good old tuna and ham/cheese sandwiches from SP but also there they use old bread for their sandwiches...so does Foodland.

 

I wished we had a German bakery in BKK who wakes up at 5 am to start real fresh bread. 

 

Also many french baguettes in BKK are absolutely crap...in France nobody will buy a baguette if it's older than 6 hours...that's because it doesn't taste the same anymore.

 

I don't care how much i have to pay for a real good fresh bread, i realize i should be happy if ANY bakery sells real fresh bread.

 

I had some ham/cheese rolls from a local bakery, one was forgetten in the fridge for a month and when i found it it still didn't have any fungus!! So i kept it on the counter to see when the fungus would come but even 2 weeks later there still was no fungus to be seen.

That's not bread but some chemical mix...

 

I think my last chance is in the topmalls in Emporium/Emquartier or Paragon but by this thread i hoped to get good tips of real bakeries who won't cheat me. I just want to grab a load of bread and pay to go home...no need to check stickers with hidden expiry dates.

 

 

[SaintLouisBlues]

Just now, fruitman said:

If a bread is one day old i immediatly taste/feel/smell it and get turned off...fresh bread tastes/smells/bites so much better.

That's why toast was invented

[fruitman]

10 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

That's why toast was invented

 

Thai bread doesn't toast well neither...and also in the tosti-maker it doesn't get crispy but burns.

[SaintLouisBlues]

3 minutes ago, fruitman said:

Thai bread doesn't toast well neither...and also in the tosti-maker it doesn't get crispy but burns.

Oddly enough I've been using 14 baht Tesco Lotus own brand sliced "wholewheat" bread packs satisfactorily for the past two weeks in my toaster. Thailand suffers from never having been colonised by the French (unlike Cambodia or Vietnam) so there is no knowledge of breadmaking here. Since it's all crap I therefore buy the cheapest crap

[userabcd]

''St Etoille'' in Gateway, Paragon, Emporium, Asoke Terminal, KVillage etc...

 

Fresh bread every day approx between 12h00 to 14h00 and is the best I have found in Bangkok.

[muzmurray]

15 hours ago, fruitman said:

I have no idea which bakery i can trust to have ONLY dailt fresh bread, i need fresh wholewheat bread.

 

Yamazaki, Breadtalk, Gateaux, S&P,Makro and so like to sell old bread and call it daily fresh so which bakery in BKK has ALWAYS daily fresh bread?? I'm tired of checking it all the time and always buy a lot so it can go in the freezer at home.

 

You mean you prefer, I doubt very much that you would die without fresh wholewheat bread.

 

Must be fresh daily, and yet you are gonna freeze it for days/weeks/months !   LOL

[KittenKong]

6 hours ago, fruitman said:

As i wrote, ALL those bakeries like Makro, Breadtalk, SP, Gateaux, Yamazaki, Tops do the same trick...they DO bake everyday but still sell it 3-4 days later...Wake up you guys...and if you only see a sticker with an expirydate you can be sure they try to cheat you...That's the trick they play,

 

The bread at BigC (in Pattaya) doesnt even have a date sticker on. Go there at 9pm and there is no fresh bread left at all because they have already discounted it and sold it. This happens every day, as regular as clockwork. All you can see are empty shelves, so there's no trick there. This is exactly the same thing that French supermarkets do, and as the baker there is a Frenchman it isnt surprising.

Cellophane wrapped stuff you can always find, of course, but that isnt the fresh bread under discussion. Makro do sometimes have yesterday's baked items like rolls, but they sell it labelled as such at a reduced price. Tops/Central either discount during the evening or discount the next day, and there is a special section for "old" baked items.

[fruitman]

6 hours ago, userabcd said:

''St Etoille'' in Gateway, Paragon, Emporium, Asoke Terminal, KVillage etc...

 

Fresh bread every day approx between 12h00 to 14h00 and is the best I have found in Bangkok.

 

That's the same as  Yamazaki...or Sun Moulin.

 

Also i discovered that the bakeries in Paragon (Greenfields or so, Breadtalk and another one) which are next to eachother all sell the same bread, the 100 baht sunflowerseed woowee bread with many pits on the outside. Guess they are also from the same owner which is breadtalk aka the american owner from Sizzlers, Pizzacompany and the rest.

 

Breadtalk in Paragon sometimes has the breadbags open to cool, then they sure are fresh but if unsold that day they just keep them for the next day and charge full price. If i had the choice between half price for yesterdays bread and full price for daily fresh i still would buy the fresh..I really don't understand why breadtalk has to cheat us with selling old bread.

 

If you buy at S&P on wednesday everything has much discount but also is very old...The Thai don't care though.

 

Also Makro shouldn't cheat with old bread, it's from the big mr CP now and practise like this gives his whole imperium a bad name...when Makro was from Europe they wouldn't sell it i guess, or i would have mailed them.

 

But i'm looking for a bakery who understands customers like me and just makes sure they always have fresh bread as well. That sunflowerseedbread even my thai wife likes to eat, she doesn't like any other bread and won't eat it.

 

[Thainess]

You can't buy decent bread anywhere in Bangkok. The smallest corner shop or bakery in France has bread 10 times better than anything you'll get in Thailand. Plus, the cr@p bread you'll buy in BKK will cost 5 to 10 times what you'll pay in France. If you want good bread, go to France or somewhere else in Europe. You won't find it in Asia. 

[vogie]

22 hours ago, billd766 said:

My bread machine died a few years ago so I make it the sort of old fashioned way and by lunchtime I have a large baguette or fresh bread rolls which have passed both the Thai and the farang taste test.

Yeah Bill dumped my bread machine too and bought a mixer from Makro, now make enough dough that gives me 12 big rolls. Great for freezing also. Bacon and egg banjo every morning, kerching.

[bkkcanuck8]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Yeah Bill dumped my bread machine too and bought a mixer from Makro, now make enough dough that gives me 12 big rolls. Great for freezing also. Bacon and egg banjo every morning, kerching.

 

Are you freezing the bread or the dough?  If you are freezing the dough are you overdosing on yeast before freezing to offset the yeast die-off caused by the freezing process itself.

[vogie]

16 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

 

Are you freezing the bread or the dough?  If you are freezing the dough are you overdosing on yeast before freezing to offset the yeast die-off caused by the freezing process itself.

No I bake the rolls and let them cool and then put two into a plastic bag and freeze. In the morning I simply get one out of the fridge and put in the microwave on defrost for about a minute. I kid you not they are as fresh as when baked.

[balo]

2 hours ago, Thainess said:

You can't buy decent bread anywhere in Bangkok.

 

Yes you can .  

 

If you want authentic European bread there's only one choice .  Bei Otto , the German bakery in Sukhumvit 20.  They also use imported flour in their breads.  When I lived in Bangkok I went there once a week to buy their rye bread , just like the same quality as in Germany .  You can't go wrong. Forget Tops , Big C or anyone else.   V

 

Just visit Bei Otto if you like the Euro type of breads. 

Bei Otto bakery

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 4, 2017 by balo

[anotheruser]

18 hours ago, fruitman said:

As i wrote, ALL those bakeries like Makro, Breadtalk, SP, Gateaux, Yamazaki, Tops do the same trick...they DO bake everyday but still sell it 3-4 days later...Wake up you guys...and if you only see a sticker with an expirydate you can be sure they try to cheat you...That's the trick they play, also even Breadtalk does it (which is from minorgroup, that american from Sizzlers, Swensson, Pizzacompany so he really disappointed me this time).

 

If a bread is one day old i immediatly taste/feel/smell it and get turned off...fresh bread tastes/smells/bites so much better.

 

I always bought the sunflowerseed breads from Breadtalk, 100 baht a small loaf but i won't buy it anymore since i noticed they sell it a day later. I always buy for 500-1000 baht in those bakeries to freeze it but now i want to find a real bakery who doesn't cheat me.

 

That breadmix from the Makro is not real breadmix, real bread should get fungus after 3 days on the counter. If that doesn't happen it means there are many chemicals in it.

 

The breadmachines sound good but where can i buy the real breadmix? I don't want to weigh or do much effort to bake a bread, just throw some mix plus water in a machine is what i'm willing to do, nothing more. Actually i prefer to buy fresh ham/cheese rolls with real ham and real cheese...All the croissant/danish stuff they sell in the Thai bakeries is not what i want. Custard buns are fine or just the good old tuna and ham/cheese sandwiches from SP but also there they use old bread for their sandwiches...so does Foodland.

 

I wished we had a German bakery in BKK who wakes up at 5 am to start real fresh bread. 

 

Also many french baguettes in BKK are absolutely crap...in France nobody will buy a baguette if it's older than 6 hours...that's because it doesn't taste the same anymore.

 

I don't care how much i have to pay for a real good fresh bread, i realize i should be happy if ANY bakery sells real fresh bread.

 

I had some ham/cheese rolls from a local bakery, one was forgetten in the fridge for a month and when i found it it still didn't have any fungus!! So i kept it on the counter to see when the fungus would come but even 2 weeks later there still was no fungus to be seen.

That's not bread but some chemical mix...

 

I think my last chance is in the topmalls in Emporium/Emquartier or Paragon but by this thread i hoped to get good tips of real bakeries who won't cheat me. I just want to grab a load of bread and pay to go home...no need to check stickers with hidden expiry dates.

 

 

 

That is a tad long winded for a guy who wants fresh bread to freeze.

[smokie36]

On 04/01/2017 at 1:28 AM, fruitman said:

As i wrote, ALL those bakeries like Makro, Breadtalk, SP, Gateaux, Yamazaki, Tops do the same trick...they DO bake everyday but still sell it 3-4 days later...Wake up you guys...and if you only see a sticker with an expirydate you can be sure they try to cheat you...That's the trick they play, also even Breadtalk does it (which is from minorgroup, that american from Sizzlers, Swensson, Pizzacompany so he really disappointed me this time).

 

If a bread is one day old i immediatly taste/feel/smell it and get turned off...fresh bread tastes/smells/bites so much better.

 

I always bought the sunflowerseed breads from Breadtalk, 100 baht a small loaf but i won't buy it anymore since i noticed they sell it a day later. I always buy for 500-1000 baht in those bakeries to freeze it but now i want to find a real bakery who doesn't cheat me.

 

That breadmix from the Makro is not real breadmix, real bread should get fungus after 3 days on the counter. If that doesn't happen it means there are many chemicals in it.

 

The breadmachines sound good but where can i buy the real breadmix? I don't want to weigh or do much effort to bake a bread, just throw some mix plus water in a machine is what i'm willing to do, nothing more. Actually i prefer to buy fresh ham/cheese rolls with real ham and real cheese...All the croissant/danish stuff they sell in the Thai bakeries is not what i want. Custard buns are fine or just the good old tuna and ham/cheese sandwiches from SP but also there they use old bread for their sandwiches...so does Foodland.

 

I wished we had a German bakery in BKK who wakes up at 5 am to start real fresh bread. 

 

Also many french baguettes in BKK are absolutely crap...in France nobody will buy a baguette if it's older than 6 hours...that's because it doesn't taste the same anymore.

 

I don't care how much i have to pay for a real good fresh bread, i realize i should be happy if ANY bakery sells real fresh bread.

 

I had some ham/cheese rolls from a local bakery, one was forgetten in the fridge for a month and when i found it it still didn't have any fungus!! So i kept it on the counter to see when the fungus would come but even 2 weeks later there still was no fungus to be seen.

That's not bread but some chemical mix...

 

I think my last chance is in the topmalls in Emporium/Emquartier or Paragon but by this thread i hoped to get good tips of real bakeries who won't cheat me. I just want to grab a load of bread and pay to go home...no need to check stickers with hidden expiry dates.

 

 

 

You have yet to receive a decent reply to be fair.

 

Holey Artisan

Conkey's

Maison Eric Keyser

 

All worth a look and serving good bread....Bei Otto I have never tried Balo but I hear good things.

[Briggsy]

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