Suthep says PDRC Foundation will not sign MoU on reconciliation

[webfact]

Suthep says PDRC Foundation will not sign MoU on reconciliation

 

 

BANGKOK: -- The Foundation for People’s Democratic Reform Committee will not sign a memorandum of understanding on reconciliation as proposed by the government because it does not believe that this will lead to reconciliation, Mr Suthep Thuagsuban, the foundation chairman, said on Tuesday.

 

For reconciliation to be attained, the former Democrat party secretary-general said the people in the country must have unity first, must respect the law and abide by the law.

 

He hopes that reconciliation will bring about durable peace and enable the country to move forward.

 

He voiced his disagreement with any proposal for amnesty for lese majeste offenders and offences regarding corruption and heinous crimes.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/suthep-says-pdrc-foundation-will-not-sign-mou-reconciliation/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-01-18

[SABloke]

So the old Por Por Kor Sor is still a thing then Who knew

[smutcakes]

Oh look the political parties are still refusing to play nice. Better delay any election. How convenient.

[newcomer71]

Some attitude adjustment for this clown? Oh well, never mind...

[ramrod711]

The only decent thing Suthep has ever done was to lead the protest against amnesty for all criminal politicians. Other than that his life is a waste. I can't think of anything he has ever done that wasn't self serving. He has no redeeming qualities, he is completely for sale.

[smutcakes]

13 minutes ago, ramrod711 said:

The only decent thing Suthep has ever done was to lead the protest against amnesty for all criminal politicians. Other than that his life is a waste. I can't think of anything he has ever done that wasn't self serving. He has no redeeming qualities, he is completely for sale.

 

Some people don't have to bother worrying about getting an amnesty or not.

[rijb]

He wants more money.  It's always about the money.

[Familyaffairs]

But, but, but...Yuth says they have been 'volunteered', and MUST sign that they will 'behave' or else maybe the attitude adjustment sessions return ?

[Reigntax]

36 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

Some people don't have to bother worrying about getting an amnesty or not.

 

At least dont bother using the parliamentary process.

[Reigntax]

51 minutes ago, ramrod711 said:

The only decent thing Suthep has ever done was to lead the protest against amnesty for all criminal politicians. Other than that his life is a waste. I can't think of anything he has ever done that wasn't self serving. He has no redeeming qualities, he is completely for sale.

 

Yes,mm im sure the people are greatful to the mad monk for protesting against an amnesty and receiving a military coup with those having full amnesty.

 

The country has moved so forward since the coup and quickly accellerating into a developed nation, open to scrutiny, transparent and great human rights protections.? Right?

[halloween]

38 minutes ago, Reigntax said:

 

At least dont bother using the parliamentary process.

 

Have to agree that Thaksin's amnesty was one of the greatest abuses of parliamentary process that I have witnessed. A fine example of "red" democracy.

[smutcakes]

3 minutes ago, halloween said:

 

Have to agree that Thaksin's amnesty was one of the greatest abuses of parliamentary process that I have witnessed. A fine example of "red" democracy.

 

The one that was rejected? Is that not an example of a perfectly working parliamentary process?

[halloween]

2 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

The one that was rejected? Is that not an example of a perfectly working parliamentary process?

Oh yes, passing an amnesty which directly benefits those voting for it is wonderful. As is the process which allows the parliament to re-introduce it, despite 100% rejection by the senate, and for it to be passed as law without further ado. But that would never happen, Honest Yingluk said so.

[smutcakes]

1 minute ago, halloween said:

Oh yes, passing an amnesty which directly benefits those voting for it is wonderful. As is the process which allows the parliament to re-introduce it, despite 100% rejection by the senate, and for it to be passed as law without further ado. But that would never happen, Honest Yingluk said so.

 

So it was rejected yes? You can whine  about what might hypothetically happen in the future, but most rational people like to deal with facts not speculation. It was tabled and rejected, so parliamentary process worked?

[Eric Loh]

4 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

So it was rejected yes? You can whine  about what might hypothetically happen in the future, but most rational people like to deal with facts not speculation. It was tabled and rejected, so parliamentary process worked?

 

And is also the legal privilege of the Legislative Branch. 

[aussieinthailand]

1 hour ago, ramrod711 said:

The only decent thing Suthep has ever done was to lead the protest against amnesty for all criminal politicians. Other than that his life is a waste. I can't think of anything he has ever done that wasn't self serving. He has no redeeming qualities, he is completely for sale.

News flash,  The amnesty bill failed, problem solved, but o'l Suthep used it as an excuse to unseat the elected lawful government and called for kidknapping MP's and threaterning the safty of their familes, ileagally blocking people to vote and beating any that tryed to  be they man woman young and old remember.  Try doing any one of those things in a first world country and see how far you get.

And he is still walking around,  A very big black mark on the ruling junta. Why don't you critisize them for that???

I also recall some people claiming him a hero and Thailand's Nelson Mandela,   But you would have never supported him in your past post's now would you,  not after this current opinion of him today huh?

[aussieinthailand]

25 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

So it was rejected yes? You can whine  about what might hypothetically happen in the future, but most rational people like to deal with facts not speculation. It was tabled and rejected, so parliamentary process worked?

Good luck with useing facts with some people, they prefure as you say speculation as that is the only way they can justfy the coup and the crimes by some of people and leaders.

 

[tbthailand]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He voiced his disagreement with any proposal for amnesty for lese majeste offenders and offences regarding corruption and heinous crimes.

 

amnesty for lese majeste offenders

 

that is the one thing for which there should be a blanket amnesty.

[Baerboxer]

43 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

The one that was rejected? Is that not an example of a perfectly working parliamentary process?

 

Only it wasn't rejected was it, not by the Yingluck administration. She lied when she said the Amnesty Bill had been killed off. They terminated all versions bar one. And surprise surprise the one left, rejected by the senate but which would return to the lower house to vote into law, was the one that had been illegally amended to add her brother.

 

A perfect example of PTP being caught trying to cheat parliamentary process, then manipulate it, again.

[waldroj]

"...For reconciliation to be attained, ...the people in the country must have unity first, must respect the law and abide by the law..."

 

That tears it, with these few words, Suthep has effectively identified that Thailand will never be reconciled !!!

[Baerboxer]

20 minutes ago, aussieinthailand said:

News flash,  The amnesty bill failed, problem solved, but o'l Suthep used it as an excuse to unseat the elected lawful government and called for kidknapping MP's and threaterning the safty of their familes, ileagally blocking people to vote and beating any that tryed to  be they man woman young and old remember.  Try doing any one of those things in a first world country and see how far you get.

And he is still walking around,  A very big black mark on the ruling junta. Why don't you critisize them for that???

I also recall some people claiming him a hero and Thailand's Nelson Mandela,   But you would have never supported him in your past post's now would you,  not after this current opinion of him today huh?

 

The Amnesty Bill, the version that favored Thaksin only failed because PTP were removed from power. Had they have been able to hang on to power they would undoubtedly have voted it into law, ignoring the Senate and the protesters.

 

News flash - try researching reality rather than Shin propaganda.

[Reigntax]

56 minutes ago, halloween said:

 

Have to agree that Thaksin's amnesty was one of the greatest abuses of parliamentary process that I have witnessed. A fine example of "red" democracy.

 

As it didnt occur, I  would suggest you witnessed nothing or were raised on so much BS producing it a natural secretion. 

 

Yes, much better to overthrow a countrys whole rule of law and totally bypass parliament altogether.

 

The RTP are looking for candidates with just the same attitude.

 

The delusional junta supporters are out in force to protect the master at all cost.

[Baerboxer]

42 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

So it was rejected yes? You can whine  about what might hypothetically happen in the future, but most rational people like to deal with facts not speculation. It was tabled and rejected, so parliamentary process worked?

 

No - not factually correct. Check it and you will see. There were several versions of that Bill. All but one were killed off, the one illegally amended to add Thaksin and white wash him.

 

PTP knew that would come back to the lower house after a specified time, and that the lower house could enact it into law without having to send it to the senate again. 

 

 

[Baerboxer]

4 minutes ago, Reigntax said:

 

As it didnt occur, I  would suggest you witnessed nothing or were raised on so much BS producing it a natural secretion. 

 

Yes, much better to overthrow a countrys whole rule of law and totally bypass parliament altogether.

 

The RTP are looking for candidates with just the same attitude.

 

 

 

The delusional junta supporters

 

The only reason it didn't occur was because PTP were removed from power.

[Baerboxer]

6 minutes ago, waldroj said:

"...For reconciliation to be attained, ...the people in the country must have unity first, must respect the law and abide by the law..."

 

That tears it, with these few words, Suthep has effectively identified that Thailand will never be reconciled !!!

 

Certainly never until a there are laws that are applied and enforced impartially, by an impartial effective and efficient judicial system and process.

 

[Eric Loh]

10 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

No - not factually correct. Check it and you will see. There were several versions of that Bill. All but one were killed off, the one illegally amended to add Thaksin and white wash him.

 

PTP knew that would come back to the lower house after a specified time, and that the lower house could enact it into law without having to send it to the senate again. 

 

 

 

See BB. You are all over the place again. You miss out royal endorsement even if there is a upper house impasse and a committee can't be formed to deal with the impasse. A lot more hoops and hurdles and not as simple as you try to hoodwink and allude.  

[thaiguzzi]

There is no politician still alive in this country that i dislike, more than this man. There are some worse ones i loathe even more, but they are all dead now...

[aussieinthailand]

31 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Certainly never until a there are laws that are applied and enforced impartially, by an impartial effective and efficient judicial system and process.

 

Now that I accully do agree with, Unfortunatly that's not what was happening and it not happening now under the junta  now huh...

[Jai Dee]

Several troll and flame posts have been removed from this thread.

Discuss the topic please, not other members.

[DM07]

Didn't this clown vow to stay out of politics?

Oh never mind...