catman20 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Ahab said: Life is not fair. I taught this to my son as a young boy. Get used to it. There will be people that are smarter than you, better looking than you, or were born with richer parents than you. Suck it up, lace up you shoes and get busy working and studying as hard as you can to make your life better. Whining about what is fair is a waste of time and effort. He has turned out to be a pretty good young man. Good post well said and very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 just the color of your skin will have a big effect on how your life turns out. how can it be fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Farang hunter said: Many people wonder if life is fair or not, we all have our ups and downs. Some may live their life in full enjoyment regardless of the steps back and if you ask them are you happy through your life most would answer you back not exactly, and it is true because living on earth is not like living in heaven. I wonder what you all have to say because many think we live only one life which I disagree with and if that is so please explain. Just before I rest my fingers can you guys imagine horrible people like Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin and what have they done to humanity and the funny thing Hitler after he massacred and gassed all those people he simply committed suicide by shooting him self so, do you think life is fair I ask? and if not why don't you guys start believing in God. You're born, you live, you die. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 To quote Philipe Dijan "you can't live under the sky without seeing a few clouds" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said: just the color of your skin will have a big effect on how your life turns out. how can it be fair? "Unfairness" can affect anyone of any colour. I'm sure 7 million Jews thought life was pretty unfair. I must admit I consider myself very lucky, having been born into an affluent society with many job opportunities, it's not so in overpopulated or badly governed countries. Edited May 11, 2017 by giddyup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Or Eddie Vedder "i know i was born and i know that i'll die,the in between is mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 "The cats eat the rats and the rats eat the cats. There is no justice is this part of the universe" -Gurdjieff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, Emster23 said: "The cats eat the rats and the rats eat the cats. There is no justice is this part of the universe" -Gurdjieff "it's a dog eat dog world", but sometimes it's the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 If life were 'fair' humans would likely not exist on earth as we do now. We are opportunists and took what we need (to the detriment of other species) to gain our advantage over the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I do not think I am all-wise, all-knowing enough to gauge the fairness of what happens to me and others in life. I can, however, gauge the morality of my own actions and motives. So that's what I concentrate on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I live a life beyond my wildest dreams....but by other's standards, maybe not so good... how come? I don't have a lot of money, my children and extended family have no time for me. I have one friend back home (Ex wife). Have many "acquaintances" but that's all they are ,if I needed help I wouldn't ask one of them for it. My relationship here is almost on the rocks, so virtually alone. I live on my own which I don't particularly like or dislike, there are advantages and dis-advantages. So why my opening sentence....because after 33 years of trying and failing I finally found recovery from the disease of Alcoholism, relief from it's stranglehold over me, I am no longer a slave to Alcohol. But it certainly took everything that was near and dear to me before I got here. I give all the credit for my recovery to a Higher Power (God) after pleading to the unknown (anything out there) for help and surrendering to the fact that my "will power" would never conquer my problem and accepted I was totally defeated and at that point in life I was a complete failure. I never believed I would live beyond about 45yrs. of age and die a miserable death like many others the same as myself. I am 68 this year and 16 yrs. free of the "obsession" of Alcohol....Without the slightest doubt best 16 years of my entire life. To those who do not believe in a God I say....why not give it a try, ...what have you got to lose? If there is a God you will reap all the benefits....if there isn't who cares....you'll be dead and non the wiser. With regards to life....I think you get out of it what you put into it. I prefer not to judge life by rights and wrongs.......to me it is a case of "balance and imbalance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, dotpoom said: So why my opening sentence....because after 33 years of trying and failing I finally found recovery from the disease of Alcoholism, relief from it's stranglehold over me, I am no longer a slave to Alcohol. But it certainly took everything that was near and dear to me before I got here. I give all the credit for my recovery to a Higher Power (God) after pleading to the unknown (anything out there) for help and surrendering to the fact that my "will power" would never conquer my problem and accepted I was totally defeated and at that point in life I was a complete failure. Really, so god helped you recover from alcoholism, but he ignores the prayers of a mother to save her dying child? Seems like a pretty fickle god to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 sometimes ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, giddyup said: Really, so god helped you recover from alcoholism, but he ignores the prayers of a mother to save her dying child? Seems like a pretty fickle god to me. no such thing as god. when your dead that's it ... same as a rock, piece of wood or anything ... i'm an atheist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farang hunter Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 58 minutes ago, sipi said: This man thinks we live in heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, Sheryl said: I do not think I am all-wise, all-knowing enough to gauge the fairness of what happens to me and others in life. I can, however, gauge the morality of my own actions and motives. So that's what I concentrate on. Great post Sheryl, i am lucky enough to be able to care and take care of my girl ,her kids and Mum,this has raised their quality of life a lot,i gain great pleasure from this,i like helping people,as for myself my needs are few and modest,but to be able to make a difference to some one's life and improve their lot gives me a lot of satisfaction.It is sad in this world that other people only want to destroy ,such as Isis. I feel if you can think i did a good thing today,which can be difficult you are doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldbear Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Fairness doesn't exist outside of people's minds. It's a concept. Life isn't fair, other than how humans sometimes try and make it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 hours ago, dick dasterdly said: Oh, I don't know - 'life's a bitch and then you die' sums it up pretty well! You missed out the middle bit, 'life's a bitch, then you marry one and then you die' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Why would anybody think that life was meant to be fair? I do not do religious arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, dotpoom said: I give all the credit for my recovery to a Higher Power (God) after pleading to the unknown (anything out there) for help and surrendering to the fact that my "will power" would never conquer my problem and accepted I was totally defeated and at that point in life I was a complete failure. Give yourself 100% credit for conquering your own problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 hours ago, KarenBravo said: The concept of fairness is man-made, only exists in the mind of humans and cannot be found in nature. Thought that was obvious. Nice one. Watching YT vids of a small mammal being envenomated and/or constricted by a snake, in their last moments before being swallowed, do they think, "This is so unfair" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, 55Jay said: Nice one. Watching YT vids of a small mammal being envenomated and/or constricted by a snake, in their last moments before being swallowed, do they think, "This is so unfair" ? Big fleas have little fleas, Upon their backs to bite 'em, And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so, ad infinitum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Do you believe in little green men from Mars (or elsewhere for that matter)? I assume no because you have no tangible proof. The God concept is similar. Make of that what you will. Getting back to the original post life is what you make it. It isnt that some people get a really bad deal everyone does at times and it makes us think what we, yes we, did wrong to deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Turn left, turn right? humanity has taken the wrong direction! Look around you Just what are people really pursuing? In the meantime, enjoy what you can, when you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, gandalf12 said: Do you believe in little green men from Mars (or elsewhere for that matter)? I assume no because you have no tangible proof. The God concept is similar. Make of that what you will. Getting back to the original post life is what you make it. It isnt that some people get a really bad deal everyone does at times and it makes us think what we, yes we, did wrong to deserve it. Sorry, don't agree. Your attitude is coming from someone who has had many opportunities in life, not so if you were born in a slum in the Philippines, or a child scrabbling for plastic bottles in a dump in India to put food on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 52 minutes ago, dotpoom said: I live a life beyond my wildest dreams....but by other's standards, maybe not so good... how come? I don't have a lot of money, my children and extended family have no time for me. I have one friend back home (Ex wife). Have many "acquaintances" but that's all they are ,if I needed help I wouldn't ask one of them for it. My relationship here is almost on the rocks, so virtually alone. I live on my own which I don't particularly like or dislike, there are advantages and dis-advantages. So why my opening sentence....because after 33 years of trying and failing I finally found recovery from the disease of Alcoholism, relief from it's stranglehold over me, I am no longer a slave to Alcohol. But it certainly took everything that was near and dear to me before I got here. I give all the credit for my recovery to a Higher Power (God) after pleading to the unknown (anything out there) for help and surrendering to the fact that my "will power" would never conquer my problem and accepted I was totally defeated and at that point in life I was a complete failure. I never believed I would live beyond about 45yrs. of age and die a miserable death like many others the same as myself. I am 68 this year and 16 yrs. free of the "obsession" of Alcohol....Without the slightest doubt best 16 years of my entire life. To those who do not believe in a God I say....why not give it a try, ...what have you got to lose? If there is a God you will reap all the benefits....if there isn't who cares....you'll be dead and non the wiser. With regards to life....I think you get out of it what you put into it. I prefer not to judge life by rights and wrongs.......to me it is a case of "balance and imbalance". You have merely replaced one obsession or addiction, with another. Now that you are stable (good on ya' by the way!), instead of inviting others into your newest addiction, you should leave us alone. Inviting others into your new "thing" is enabling behavior and therein, you can see the parallels with being an alcoholic or drug addict. They want a buddy to get high or drunk with. "Come on just try it! Just once, come on, you'll love it!" As others said, don't sell yourself short by outsourcing the credit for achieving victory over your own problems. It was you who did it. There is a physical addiction aspect to it of course, but half the battle is in your mind. It's you against yourself. The bottle is animate. If it "calls to you", that is a product of your own mind. There's nothing else going on there, and it's not the "devil" leading you by the nose either. That's more of the same immature behavior, seeking to transfer responsibility instead of taking it on board and dealing with it rationally and logically. Edited May 11, 2017 by 55Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Not Fair, not Unfair, it just IS, get on with it and stop moaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, giddyup said: Sorry, don't agree. Your attitude is coming from someone who has had many opportunities in life, not so if you were born in a slum in the Philippines, or a child scrabbling for plastic bottles in a dump in India to put food on the table. You have your take on things and I have mine. Both are right and both are wrong. Depends how you view things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 fairness does not occur naturally because it is an artificial / human concept. all is said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, gandalf12 said: You have your take on things and I have mine. Both are right and both are wrong. Depends how you view things Some people don't just get "a bad deal at times", but their whole life is a "bad deal", with no opportunity, unlike you and me, to improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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