Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?

[Silurian]

Well, now we know who wears the "pants" is that family.

 

JARED KUSHNER VOTED AS A WOMAN, ACCORDING TO HIS REGISTRATION

https://www.wired.com/story/jared-kushner-voter-registration-woman

 

Yeah, this is a guy that can't fill out pretty much any paperwork properly and yet he handles exactly how many issues in the WH? Fricking clown train: the whole damn family.

 

[ballpoint]

1 hour ago, Thakkar said:

Trump must be reading this forum, because it seems he just found that out from heybruce:

 

BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews)

26/9/2017, 11:05 PM

Trump on delivering aid to Puerto Rico: "This is an island sitting in the middle of an ocean. It’s a big ocean, it’s a very big ocean." pic.twitter.com/d3zkbKmQxr

Wait till next week, the great self-contradictator will be saying "it's a tiny ocean, a very tiny ocean. We have bigger oceans than that in our bathroom.  It's bigger than Hillary's ocean of course, but still tiny".

 

 

"President Donald Trump told Texans bailing themselves out from Hurricane Harvey's floods that the storm, which caused the most extreme rainstorm on record, was an unprecedented event.  And when Hurricane Irma ramped up to a Category 5 monster in the Atlantic, Trump tweeted that the storm "Looks like the largest ever recorded in the Atlantic!" ...

 

 

... Yet when a reporter asked Trump on Thursday whether the two hurricanes, which were aided by warming ocean and air temperatures, as well as added moisture in the air, have caused him to reevaluate his views on climate change, Trump directly contradicted himself...

 

... "Well, we've had bigger storms than this," Trump said while on board Air Force One en route to Washington, after viewing the damage from Hurricane Irma, which hit the Florida Keys as a Category 4 storm, in southwest Florida. "And if you go back into the 1930s and the 1940s, and you take a look, we've had storms over the years that have been bigger than this," he said."

 

http://mashable.com/2017/09/14/trump-denies-climate-change-hurricane-irma-harvey/#dkJWdcWpdmqx

 

 

[iReason]

16 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

"President Donald Trump told Texans bailing themselves out from Hurricane Harvey's floods that the storm, which caused the most extreme rainstorm on record, was an unprecedented event.  And when Hurricane Irma ramped up to a Category 5 monster in the Atlantic, Trump tweeted that the storm "Looks like the largest ever recorded in the Atlantic!" ...

... Yet when a reporter asked Trump on Thursday whether the two hurricanes, which were aided by warming ocean and air temperatures, as well as added moisture in the air, have caused him to reevaluate his views on climate change, Trump directly contradicted himself...

 

... "Well, we've had bigger storms than this," Trump said while on board Air Force One en route to Washington, after viewing the damage from Hurricane Irma, which hit the Florida Keys as a Category 4 storm, in southwest Florida. "And if you go back into the 1930s and the 1940s, and you take a look, we've had storms over the years that have been bigger than this," he said."

http://mashable.com/2017/09/14/trump-denies-climate-change-hurricane-irma-harvey/#dkJWdcWpdmqx

[iReason]

The inept one loves his base:

 

 

[greatwhitenorth]

One really has to pity Americans, 10 months after the election 50% hate their president and 50% love the dotard.  Poor losers and imbecile winners that love to wash their dirty linen in public.  America is taking the world towards nuclear war but prefers to focus on whether BLM or the NFL is the best representative of the oppressed.  

[Ramen087]

On ‎9‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 7:14 PM, Opl said:

Because I'm not American I do not quite understand why The US should elect Presidents like they did  2 centuries ago??? The context is totally different - it's not so unusual to adapt the electoral system to today's reality. Trump's Victory clearly shows the limits of the system, or maybe you do agree with the fact that electoral system reverse the result of the popular vote. Trump is entitled to do whatever he wants, since he's been elected ? So he can probably pardon himself and his family members just because the case is not considered as illegal - or unconstitutional .. it's sad for a great nation like the US to be submissive to the tricks of a single individual just because he happened to be elected .. no wonder the turnout was so low.  

 

Low turnouts are largely unrelated to the electoral college; they occur in local elections all the time.  This video may help. The Founding Fathers actually developed a solid, long lasting system for the every four year Presidential Election.

[ilostmypassword]

3 hours ago, greatwhitenorth said:

One really has to pity Americans, 10 months after the election 50% hate their president and 50% love the dotard.  Poor losers and imbecile winners that love to wash their dirty linen in public.  America is taking the world towards nuclear war but prefers to focus on whether BLM or the NFL is the best representative of the oppressed.  

Where did you come up with notion that 50% love the Trump?

[inThailand]

1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

Where did you come up with notion that 50% love the Trump?

It's more according to him!

[CaptHaddock]

54 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

 

Low turnouts are largely unrelated to the electoral college; they occur in local elections all the time.  This video may help. The Founding Fathers actually developed a solid, long lasting system for the every four year Presidential Election.

The video is a good example of American propaganda, although more flagrantly anti-democratic than most.  Notice how the narrator never cites any history to support her claims about the intentions of the authors of the Constitution.  That's because she wants to avoid acknowledging that the motivation for the Electoral College was to protect slavery.  The Three Fifths Compromise, by counting a slave as three-fifths of a citizen for the purpose of allocating seats in the House of Representatives, along with the allocation of seats in the Senate by state and not by population, gave the South substantial over-representation in Congress.  Indeed, slaveholder James Madison said at the time that unless the Southern States were so over-represented they would not join the union.  By creating the Electoral College, an institution unknown in other democracies, the advantage the South had in the Congress got translated into electing the president.  And the EC worked like magic.  Although the antebellum South never had more than one third of the US population compared to two-thirds for the North, twelve out of the first fifteen presidents were slaveholders.

 

By design the Electoral College can never be amended out of existence, because of the requirement of ratification of three-quarters of the states.  To ratify an amendment to abolish the EC would therefore require support from small states who would be giving up the anti-democratic advantage they currently enjoy. 

 

So the advantage that the framers locked in for the slave-holding South is now responsible for inflicting presidents like G. W. Bush and Trump on the US against the wishes of the majority.

 

 

Edited September 28, 2017 by CaptHaddock

[Ramen087]

20 minutes ago, CaptHaddock said:

The video is a good example of American propaganda, although more flagrantly anti-democratic than most.  Notice how the narrator never cites any history to support her claims about the intentions of the authors of the Constitution.  That's because she wants to avoid acknowledging that the motivation for the Electoral College was to protect slavery.  The Three Fifths Compromise, by counting a slave as three-fifths of a citizen for the purpose of allocating seats in the House of Representatives, along with the allocation of seats in the Senate by state and not by population, gave the South substantial over-representation in Congress.  Indeed, slaveholder James Madison said at the time that unless the Southern States were so over-represented they would not join the union.  By creating the Electoral College, an institution unknown in other democracies, the advantage the South had in the Congress got translated into electing the president.  And the EC worked like magic.  Although the antebellum South never had more than one third of the US population compared to two-thirds for the North, twelve out of the first fifteen presidents were slaveholders.

 

By design the Electoral College can never be amended out of existence, because of the requirement of ratification of three-quarters of the states.  To ratify an amendment to abolish the EC would therefore require support from small states who would be giving up the anti-democratic advantage they currently enjoy. 

 

So the advantage that the framers locked in for the slave-holding South is now responsible for inflicting presidents like G. W. Bush and Trump on the US against the wishes of the majority.

 

 

You're in denial. Or, you don't understand the pertinent points in the video. Have a nice day.

[CaptHaddock]

4 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

You're in denial. Or, you don't understand the pertinent points in the video. Have a nice day.

You neither know nor understand American history.

[ilostmypassword]

25 minutes ago, CaptHaddock said:

The video is a good example of American propaganda, although more flagrantly anti-democratic than most.  Notice how the narrator never cites any history to support her claims about the intentions of the authors of the Constitution.  That's because she wants to avoid acknowledging that the motivation for the Electoral College was to protect slavery.  The Three Fifths Compromise, by counting a slave as three-fifths of a citizen for the purpose of allocating seats in the House of Representatives, along with the allocation of seats in the Senate by state and not by population, gave the South substantial over-representation in Congress.  Indeed, slaveholder James Madison said at the time that unless the Southern States were so over-represented they would not join the union.  By creating the Electoral College, an institution unknown in other democracies, the advantage the South had in the Congress got translated into electing the president.  And the EC worked like magic.  Although the antebellum South never had more than one third of the US population compared to two-thirds for the North, twelve out of the first fifteen presidents were slaveholders.

 

By design the Electoral College can never be amended out of existence, because of the requirement of ratification of three-quarters of the states.  To ratify an amendment to abolish the EC would therefore require support from small states who would be giving up the anti-democratic advantage they currently enjoy. 

 

So the advantage that the framers locked in for the slave-holding South is now responsible for inflicting presidents like G. W. Bush and Trump on the US against the wishes of the majority.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

You're in denial. Or, you don't understand the pertinent points in the video. Have a nice day.

Or, to put it another way, "Don't bother me with your damned facts"

And this piece of turd masquerading as an educational video comes from the folks at PragerU.com. These people who apparently believe that their conservative audience is incapable of dealing anything but the simplest of presentations. Here it is in their own words:

"The greatest threat to America is that most Americans don’t know what makes America great. PragerU's mission is to explain and spread what we call “Americanism” through the power of the Internet. Our five-minute videos are conservative sound bites that clarify profoundly significant and uniquely American concepts for more than 100 million people each year."

https://www.prageru.com/what-we-do

[Ramen087]

13 minutes ago, CaptHaddock said:

You neither know nor understand American history.

Well, I do have a four year degree in it. But please feel free to stick with your opinion. It'll make you feel good about your irrational negative feelings about the man currently occupying the Oval Office. 
 

Have a nice day.

[Andaman Al]

2 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Well, I do have a four year degree in it. But please feel free to stick with your opinion. It'll make you feel good about your irrational negative feelings about the man currently occupying the Oval Office. 
 

Have a nice day.

Now we know you are fake - There isn't enough history in America to cover a four year degree program !  

[CaptHaddock]

15 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Well, I do have a four year degree in it. But please feel free to stick with your opinion. It'll make you feel good about your irrational negative feelings about the man currently occupying the Oval Office. 
 

Have a nice day.

No kidding?  Nice campus there at Bob Jones University?

[ilostmypassword]

22 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Well, I do have a four year degree in it. But please feel free to stick with your opinion. It'll make you feel good about your irrational negative feelings about the man currently occupying the Oval Office. 
 

Have a nice day.

A poster with a degree in American history and he goes to a video that is by the admission of the website just a soundbite. When you had to submit papers to your school, did the footnotes read "Because I say so" and "you just don't understand"?

Edited September 28, 2017 by ilostmypassword

[Berkshire]

7 minutes ago, CaptHaddock said:

No kidding?  Nice campus there at Bob Jones University?

More like Trump University....

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

More like Trump University....

They didn't offer a course in American history.

But it was a great example for the history of American CON MEN. 

[Ramen087]

10 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

More like Trump University....

 

19 minutes ago, CaptHaddock said:

No kidding?  Nice campus there at Bob Jones University?

SUNY...

[CaptHaddock]

18 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

 

SUNY...

Well, you ought to be ashamed that your understanding of American history is still at the level of junior high school.  But I guess that depends on whether you imagine the purpose of the study of history is to understand the past or to feel good.

[Ramen087]

12 minutes ago, CaptHaddock said:

Well, you ought to be ashamed that your understanding of American history is still at the level of junior high school.  But I guess that depends on whether you imagine the purpose of the study of history is to understand the past or to feel good.

You're have no authority to tell me how to feel or what to feel. I understand U.S.A. history quite well, and I embrace that knowledge of the past in the context of the present day. I also would never let a personal feeling about the current president affect my interpretation of events, or the Office of the President.  Please get over it; Mr. Trump became President Trump lawfully and legally.  The electoral college is not a vehicle for propaganda. 

 

Have a nice life. 

Edited September 28, 2017 by Ramen087

[Scott]

A troll post has been removed.   Puerto Rico is in the midst of a humanitarian crisis.   Disrespectful remarks are inflammatory and trolling.  

 

Stay on topic.  

[Scott]

Post from an unapproved source has been removed again.   The post also violates Fair Use Policy.  

[Slip]

2 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

Or, to put it another way, "Don't bother me with your damned facts"

And this piece of turd masquerading as an educational video comes from the folks at PragerU.com. These people who apparently believe that their conservative audience is incapable of dealing anything but the simplest of presentations. Here it is in their own words:

"The greatest threat to America is that most Americans don’t know what makes America great. PragerU's mission is to explain and spread what we call “Americanism” through the power of the Internet. Our five-minute videos are conservative sound bites that clarify profoundly significant and uniquely American concepts for more than 100 million people each year."

https://www.prageru.com/what-we-do

'Americanism'? That sounds suspiciously similar to Animalism.  Perhaps that is why their messages seem to be put across using the same techniques.

[iReason]

Donald Trump: Is it illegal for the US President to delete his tweets?

"The law stipulates that materials can include "books, correspondence, memoranda, documents, papers, pamphlets, works of art, models, pictures, photographs, plats, maps, films, and motion pictures, including, but not limited to, audio and visual records, or other electronic or mechanical recordations, whether in analog, digital, or any other form".

 

"And "presidential records" are defined as those "created or received by the president, the president's immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the executive office of the president whose function is to advise or assist the president".

 

"The law also means that any tweets sent by the president are owned by the United States."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-28/is-it-illegal-for-donald-trump-to-delete-his-tweets/8995370

 

A lawless rogue inhabits the White House.

 

Sean Spicer Says President Trump Considers His Tweets 'Official' White House Statements

"When asked at a press briefing whether Trump's tweets qualify as official statements on behalf of the White House, Spicer said that he "is the President of the United States, so they're considered official statements by the President of the United States."

http://time.com/4808270/sean-spicer-donald-trump-twitter-statements/

[Slip]

This whole scam is so devilishly complicated that I'm surprised anyone can get to the bottom of it.  Mueller (and his team) must be quite as skilled as his reputation suggests:

 

https://thesternfacts.com/trump-russia-dossier-decoded-yes-there-really-was-a-massive-oil-deal-e33370349b67

[iReason]

From Quinnipiac, a pollster often cited by his campaign as reliable:

 

Poll: Majority of voters say Trump isn't fit to be president

"A majority of American voters say Donald Trump is not "fit to serve as president," according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday, with 51 percent of respondents saying they are embarrassed to have Trump serve as president."

 

"The poll reports that 59 percent say Trump is not honest, 60 percent say he does not have good leadership skills and 61 percent say he does not share their values."

 

"Overall, 62 percent of voters disapprove of the way the president has handled race relations, 60 percent of voters say Trump is doing more to divide the country than unite it."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/27/trump-poll-fit-to-be-president-243219

 

Word.

Spin that.

[Slip]

OK- This guy isn't exactly the most impartial commentator out there, but just for shits and giggles:

 

Insider reveals the specific criminal charges Robert Mueller will bring against Donald Trump and his co-conspirators

http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/charges-mueller/5168/

[ELVIS123456]

On 9/28/2017 at 3:00 PM, Scott said:

Post from an unapproved source has been removed again.   The post also violates Fair Use Policy.  

Please advise where I can get a list of 'approved sources' - that are not anti-Trump sources.

 

[Andaman Al]

6 minutes ago, ELVIS123456 said:

Please advise where I can get a list of 'approved sources' - that are not anti-Trump sources.

 

That's easy, the easiest way for you is just make a list of all of the sites you frequent and get your information and opinions from and add them to the list of unapproved sources. Think of the sites you never want to get information from that might be balanced and (God forbid) accurate and go there as they are likely to be approved. It will need a substantial change in behavioural patterns but we are all willing to offer support and prayers to help you achieve your goal....reality.