Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?

[craigt3365]

19 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

The manner in which the Democrats are conducting themselves after the election certainly assures Trump to last his two full terms.

The Harvey Weinstein Scandal certainly hasn't been beneficial for them plus the big nothingburger(s) re Russia! - haven't helped either. 

Very bizarre you'd blame the Democrats for this.  What about the problems Trump's causing?  Or Republicans in not getting Trump's agenda completed?  Trump's approval rating is in the toilet.  Why don't you blame him?  He's not perfect.  Hopefully you can see that.

 

Russia is going to bite many around Trump strongly.  It just takes time.

[craigt3365]

9 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

BENGHAZI REDUX?

Niger Attack Lays Bare U.S. Troops’ Long Wait for Medical Help in Africa

When a team of Green Berets in unarmored pickup trucks came under fire in Niger last week, they quickly found themselves in the middle of a nightmare battlefield scenario: outgunned, taking casualties and far from friendly support.

The operation, which left four American soldiers dead and two wounded, is now under investigation, Pentagon officials said. That inquiry, senior military officials said, will likely reveal that the American troops had deployed to a hostile area without adequately assessing the risk, and lacked ready access to medical support.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/world/africa/niger-attack-american-military-medical-evacuations.html?_r=0

 

Turns out that the military had been asking for more support for months.  But Trump just left US troops there to die. An impeachable offense?

Way off topic.  A single event and you're blaming this on Trump?  Really? 

 

Don't nitpick.  From that same article:

 

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Some troops, however, argue that the golden hour is unrealistic for elite forces deployed far afield and in some cases prevents them from carrying out more risky, but important, missions.

“You’re never going to have the golden hour in Africa; it’s not possible,” General Bolduc said in a telephone interview. “But you have an acceptable amount of time that commanders have agreed on.”

 

 

[Jingthing]

Bannon's take. 30 percent chance only of completing his first term. Interesting. Remember, the clown moron in chief has the nuclear codes ... 

 

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“I Hate Everyone in the White House!”: Trump Seethes as Advisers Fear the President Is “Unraveling”

In recent days, I’ve spoken with a half dozen prominent Republicans and Trump advisers, and they all describe a White House in crisis as advisers struggle to contain a president that seems to be increasingly unfocused and consumed by dark moods.

...

 Several months ago, according to two sources with knowledge of the conversation, former chief strategist Steve Bannon told Trump that the risk to his presidency wasn’t impeachment, but the 25th Amendment—the provision by which a majority of the Cabinet can vote to remove the president. When Bannon mentioned the 25th Amendment, Trump said, “What’s that?” According to a source, Bannon has told people he thinks Trump has only a 30 percent chance of making it the full term.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/donald-trump-is-unraveling-white-house-advisers/amp

Edited October 12, 2017 by Jingthing

[CaptHaddock]

53 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Bannon's take. 30 percent chance only of completing his first term. Interesting. Remember, the clown moron in chief has the nuclear codes ... 

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/donald-trump-is-unraveling-white-house-advisers/amp

I assume that somehow the world will survive the Trump presidency, but this is how the world ends.  There will be some crisis, like the Cuban Missile Crisis, requiring clear thinking on both sides, but the clowns in charge will not be capable of clear thinking.  Like the start of WWI, but with a war lasting hours instead of years.

[Thakkar]

Caroline O. (@RVAwonk)

10/10/2017, 10:09 PM

.@BrookingsInst just released a 108-pg report concluding that Trump "likely obstructed justice" when he fired Comey

brookings.edu/wp-content/upl… pic.twitter.com/XSpilSHFdF

[ttthailand]

It's not about winning or losing.  And this isn't about one side or another using dirty tricks.  This is about an hostile country trying to influence the elections.  Not sure where you are from, but I doubt you'd be very happy if this happened to your home country.  Luckily,  a majority in the US aren't happy either.  Election results mean nothing here.

How many elections around the world in the last 50 years has the US tried to influence ? I would guess all of them. It is part of the game that countries play.


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[ttthailand]

He's really got to go. 
Can the country even survive a full term of a such an unfit nut job potus? 
 
"Trump has caused a catastrophe. Let’s end it quickly.
 
There is really only one issue in American politics at this moment : Will we accelerate our way to the end of the Trump story, or will our government remain mired in scandal , misdirection and paralysis for many more months — or even years ?"
 
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-has-caused-a-catastrophe-lets-end-it-quickly/2017/05/17/17f12630-3b40-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html

I would say it will be a few more years of scandals, misdirection and paralysis before Trump can drain the swamp. :)


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[craigt3365]

12 minutes ago, ttthailand said:

How many elections around the world in the last 50 years has the US tried to influence ? I would guess all of them. It is part of the game that countries play.


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So you are saying the US hacked into a political parties computer system, leaked it onto the internet, purchased fake ads, etc? Please provide a link that shows this.  Otherwise....

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, ttthailand said:

How many elections around the world in the last 50 years has the US tried to influence ? I would guess all of them. It is part of the game that countries play.


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Oh it doesn't work both ways.

 

Some people hate Trump, and will never change their minds regardless of the outcome of the election or investigation. No point debating with them.

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, craigt3365 said:

So you are saying the US hacked into a political parties computer system, leaked it onto the internet, purchased fake ads, etc? Please provide a link that shows this.  Otherwise....

They've done a lot worse than that buddy.

[Thakkar]

This is what happens when you’re not the president’s son in law:

 

 

Justice Department (@TheJusticeDept)

12/10/2017, 4:56 AM

Congressional Staffer Charged With Filing False Security Clearance Form justice.gov/opa/pr/congres…

[Thakkar]

11 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

They've done a lot worse than that buddy.

“America’s done worse” —and it has—is no reason to tolerate foreign adversaries from interfering in American elections, much less allowing Americans (if any) to get away with collaborating with foreign enemies. 

[craigt3365]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

They've done a lot worse than that buddy.

So have many other countries.  But that's not the topic here is it?

[craigt3365]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Oh it doesn't work both ways.

 

Some people hate Trump, and will never change their minds regardless of the outcome of the election or investigation. No point debating with them.

No point debating people who keep talking about the elections.  Wasn't that like a year ago? LOL.  Keep up!

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, ttthailand said:

How many elections around the world in the last 50 years has the US tried to influence ? I would guess all of them. It is part of the game that countries play.


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How many countries around the world tolerate election interference, especially when it is attempted covertly with planted fake news and attempts to hack voter rolls and voting machines?

[Jingthing]

Don't get sucked into such an OFFTOPIC area such as the history of U.S. involvement in foreign elections by the persistent and obnoxious trumpist "what about" DEFLECTION brigade. This is exactly what Putin wanted to do in messing with U.S. elections. To convince the world that democracy sucks and that the U.S. is as bad as he is, and that hyper nationalistic authoritarian dictatorships as Russia are now the only way. The corrupt perverted clown potus is on the same page as Putin about that evidenced by this disgusting clip:

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2017 by Jingthing

[Skywalker69]

Trump advisers fear he’s ‘unraveling’ — and even Bannon thinks he won’t serve his full term: report

 

President Donald Trump’s constant rage is becoming more and more explosive, and a new report from Vanity Fair’s Gabriel Sherman claims that even his trusted advisers feel the president is coming apart at the seams.

 

“Several people close to the president have recently told me… that Trump is ‘unstable,’ ‘losing a step,’ and ‘unraveling,'” Sherman writes in his explosive story.

Sherman claims that he has spoken with a half dozen prominent Republicans and Trump advisers over the past several days, and he says all of them describe a White House that is struggling to stop the president from careening into disaster.

 

Trump seems to have been set off by the loss of Luther Strange, the candidate whom he had endorsed for the Republican nomination for the Alabama Senate seat vacated by current Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

“Alabama was a huge blow to his psyche,” one Trump confidant tells Sherman. “He saw the cult of personality was broken.”

 

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/trump-advisers-fear-hes-unraveling-and-even-bannon-thinks-he-wont-serve-his-full-term-report/

[Thakkar]

34 minutes ago, Skywalker69 said:

Trump advisers fear he’s ‘unraveling

 

The unraveling began with his inaugural speech. Please go back and listen to it in full. Former president Bush had the right response when he is reported to have said after the speech, “that was f**ked up.”

[mogandave]

The orange buffoon must go!!!!

We can not allow him to cut taxes on the greedy rich at the expense of hard working Americans!!!!

Impeach 45 now!!!!!


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[mogandave]

 
The unraveling began with his inaugural speech. Please go back and listen to it in full. Former president Bush had the right response when he is reported to have said after the speech, “that was f**ked up.”

Even a broken clock is right twice a day!!!!

[mrdome]

7 hours ago, ttthailand said:

I would say it will be a few more years of scandals, misdirection and paralysis before Trump can drain the swamp. :)
 

Considering that Trump has brought with him his own kind of Goldman Sachs billionaire 'livin' it up and taking as much as they can while not giving a <deleted> about the common folk' (esp. in plane rides on the tax payers dime) swamp, your comment is either a hilarious stab at denying what's plain in sight or really sad.

[Skywalker69]

Republican Senator Asks If Trump Is Recanting His Oath Of Office

 

A Republican senator is openly questioning Donald Trump’s commitment to defending the Constitution after the president’s latest attacks on the media.

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-sasse-trump-oath-of-office_us_59dee081e4b0eb18af062f71?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003

[Opl]

"Donald Trump’s lawyers are open to having the president sit down for an interview with Robert Mueller, according to a senior White House official, as part of a wider posture of cooperation with the special counsel’s Russia probe. A meeting with Trump could also bring perils for Mueller himself, legal experts said.  (A USA Today database counted more than 4,000 federal and state lawsuits involving Trump over three decades in business)"

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/12/trump-mueller-meeting-russia-243692

Edited October 12, 2017 by Opl

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.  

 

[Skywalker69]

 

[Skywalker69]

[Watchful]

1 hour ago, Skywalker69 said:

And that, my friends, is another clear case of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome).  Clearly the author is a very sick individual who should not be allowed to own a firearm arm, drive a car or pilot a plane.

 

To compare the deaths of 4 brave soldiers sent to help combat Muslim terrorists to the deaths of innocent civilians in the diplomatic core is totally absurd.  Further, the underlying issue at Benghazi is the failure of Hillary Clinton's State Dept. to provide adequate protect when Ambassador Stevens begged for protect 27 times. Compounding this failure, the lying Obama administration blamed the attacked on a video to hide their incompetence. Fortunately the lie was exposed during the election and NOT by hacked emails, but by emails released under court order by ... wait for it .... the US State Department.

 

While lying to the American people is not a crime, it clearly contributed to the Democrat's loss in the election. 

Edited October 12, 2017 by Watchful

[Skywalker69]

1 hour ago, Watchful said:

And that, my friends, is another clear case of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome).  Clearly the author is a very sick individual who should not be allowed to own a firearm arm, drive a car or pilot a plane.

 

To compare the deaths of 4 brave soldiers sent to help combat Muslim terrorists to the deaths of innocent civilians in the diplomatic core is totally absurd.  Further, the underlying issue at Benghazi is the failure of Hillary Clinton's State Dept. to provide adequate protect when Ambassador Stevens begged for protect 27 times. Compounding this failure, the lying Obama administration blamed the attacked on a video to hide their incompetence. Fortunately the lie was exposed during the election and NOT by hacked emails, but by emails released under court order by ... wait for it .... the US State Department.

 

While lying to the American people is not a crime, it clearly contributed to the Democrat's loss in the election. 

The republican cut the budget for protecting US Embassy's with 100 miljon USD prior to the Benghazi attack.

 

[Scott]

The topic is not about Hillary Clinton, Obama or Benghazi.   Stay on topic or face a suspension.  

 

[Watchful]

19 hours ago, Skywalker69 said:

The republican cut the budget for protecting US Embassy's with 100 miljon USD prior to the Benghazi attack.

 

And that, my friends, is an attempt by the fake news to re-write history.

 

The budget passed was bi-partisan and signed by Obama. Further, according to Obama's State Dept:

 

"A State Department official told The Washington Times that there was no impact on security in Benghazi from the cuts."

 

This budget item included huge construction projects for modernizing embassies. Only the Democrats believe in spending to oblivion just like they have done in PR. 

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/27/benghazi-attack-followed-deep-cuts-in-state-depart/

Edited October 13, 2017 by Watchful