NanLaew Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, darksidedog said: If he is actually following the supposed road map, one would have to suggest he can't read it very well and is going round in circles, hopelessly lost. Well we all know how totally hopeless the locals are when it come to even the simplest of maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 36 minutes ago, NickJ said: Coup, New Constitution, Yellowshirt, Redshirt.....repeat. No. I think the red versus yellow thing won't be back for a while. But I do suspect that there's probably a rival faction of career military that is getting restless. When there's a 'career path' bottleneck at the top of the tree, sh!t tends to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, harada said: 5 years computer generated image of what he will look like in 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNPBC0 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 "How can election be held if there are still bombings and the use of war weapons, conflicts among the people and the same old problems?” How can the junta justify its continuation if there are still bombings and the use of war weapons, conflicts among the people and the same old problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, steven100 said: Good ..... Thank you Khun Prayuth .... This will be the best outcome for Thailand. Did you not say there was peace because of the junta and that you felt safe ? And now you are stating there is not sufficient peace. Things seem to change often with the apologists and the junta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinL Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, darksidedog said: The rest of the world seems to manage to hold elections, regardless of what is going on in their country, so I fail to see why Thailand is incapable of doing the same. Yes. UK has a General Election in 2 weeks and a deadly bomb attack yesterday. Terror Threat level has been raised to 'Critical', meaning another incident is expected imminently. Election campaigning was postponed but it will resume soon. The election will go ahead as planned. But, of course, 'Thailand is different'. Prayuth should read the news occasionally and he'll see that many, many other countries manage to continue the democratic process despite the same problems as - or worse than - Thailand. But what he means is "I like being PM and don't want to subject myself to an election that might boot me out of office". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt96 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 elections is wrong. it makes populist buy votes, spend money on election campaign (and taking it back by corruption after) and promise to rob the successful minority and share their wealth among incompetent majority. all elected governments of Thailand were ineffective. and now a group of people who wants to get power back using ignorant everymen is blowing hospitals... please, dear Khun Prayut, don't let it happen! don't listen to whining liberals from abroad and their Thai marionettes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 9 out of 13 CCTV was out of order in the blast room of the hospital for military personnel and warning letters were sent 3 days ago to the hospitals nearby which did not trigger extra security. Prayut was quick to warn of delay even without knowing all the facts and certainly no evidence. Smell of collusion and false flag. Where is the peace and security promised by the coup leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, MartinL said: Yes. UK has a General Election in 2 weeks and a deadly bomb attack yesterday. Terror Threat level has been raised to 'Critical', meaning another incident is expected imminently. Election campaigning was postponed but it will resume soon. The election will go ahead as planned. But, of course, 'Thailand is different'. Prayuth should read the news occasionally and he'll see that many, many other countries manage to continue the democratic process despite the same problems as - or worse than - Thailand. But what he means is "I like being PM and don't want to subject myself to an election that might boot me out of office". Well that does seem to be the underlying and poorly camouflaged excuse doesn't it. For all its faults, and there are many, the UK is very good at returning to a normal state of affairs as swiftly as possible after tragic events such as manchester. Whereas in Thailand gets in a complete tailspin and politicians and leaders use it to advance their own agendas. If you look further back in the UKs history, elections were never once postponed due to the mainland bombing campaign of the IRA in the 70'S and 80's, which were far greater in damage, frequency and sophistication than those slightly inadequate fireworks that have been passed off as bombs in Bangkok in the last couple of weeks. Other places such as Iraq, Indian Kashmir, Afghanistan and Southern Sudan have all managed to hold elections under security conditions far, far worse than anything in Thailand has experienced in the past 100 years. Countries which Thailand would consider itself superior to I have no doubt. Clearly no excuse or reason to use this as an opportunity to not hold an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 how convenient; 'peace' as only he can define it; conversations with intelligent thais are now generating laughter when the talk of elections comes up; some even say that the military will stage events to justify staying on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 But if there was democracy, there would be no bombings. Me thinks someone's logic is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Surprise, surprise, surprise. We'll see election in maybe 10 years, and only after Prayut kicks the you-know-what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, NanLaew said: probably a rival faction of career military that is getting restless. have heard that; guess not enough work to go around for 1200 generals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Some pundits mentioned 2020, and they were ridiculed endlessly. Looks like it's time to pull over to the PTT for a rest stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Aha ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 38 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: 9 out of 13 CCTV was out of order in the blast room of the hospital for military personnel and warning letters were sent 3 days ago to the hospitals nearby which did not trigger extra security. Prayut was quick to warn of delay even without knowing all the facts and certainly no evidence. Smell of collusion and false flag. Where is the peace and security promised by the coup leaders. It is really hard to tell what is going on, as there are not many nimble minds at work. Sadly, they just look dumb and not guilty in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman58 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Read between the Lines here Guys He says no elections to be held while there are bombings etc So when it is to quiet and there is no excuse not to hold elections The Phone call would go like this PM To bomber command " Detonate some bombs please or i wont have an excuse not to hold elections " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, yellowboat said: It is really hard to tell what is going on, as there are not many nimble minds at work. Sadly, they just look dumb and not guilty in my opinion. Maybe but does expose the fact that he is not total in control. Still smell of an internal conflict and may not be just the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piersbeckett Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, darksidedog said: The rest of the world seems to manage to hold elections, regardless of what is going on in their country, so I fail to see why Thailand is incapable of doing the same. Yes, but it's just been explained - when everything's perfect, there will be elections but free and fair elections without the military holding the executive power will never happen because that would mean tension between political parties and the possible need for another coup! What is implied is that until Thailand becomes like other, more politically advanced countries like say, New Zealand or Switzerland or Canada, it will remain under military rule. When will this political advancement happen? Look out for pigs flying over a blue moon or birds of different species flying in v shape formation - these will be signs that the change is imminent. Edited May 24, 2017 by piersbeckett punctuation error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 As sure as night follows day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchonrocks Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 With his logic, if they don't want elections (of course they don't: silly), you know all they need to do don't you.. its called "exploding the myth".. blah blah blah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 People don't like to give up power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigermoth Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 There will most definitely not be peace if elections aren't held. What has the cremation of the King got to do with the delay. In the UK they can organise national elections in about 6 weeks!!! What is he talking about, 'if peace and order are not restored.' There is as much peace and order as he is ever going to get and it is significantly greater than most third world countries. It certainly won't be if elections are further delayed and a date not be set immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yasorab Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Yet another excuse to hold onto power !!! Shameful Sent from my SM-J120H using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, rkidlad said: Quick question; do we actually know who did the bomb? I thought we still weren't sure and were merely speculating. If it was southern insurgents, might it be an idea that the PM steps down, as this is pretty much unprecedented for Bangkok. I know there aren't going to be any elections for as long as they can get away with it, but might it be an idea to not dismiss the elections until we know who's behind this? Prayuth quoted in BKK Post: ""No government conducts a crazy act like that, except those who want to be the government," Does that answer your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefootbangkok Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 555 So predictable it's funny. Yes, power is addicting, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats56 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I quess there will be no elections as the bombing in the south has being going on for years and they can't seem to stop it. Any excuse will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnock Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 5 hours ago, AGareth2 said: so are we going to get bombings on a regular basis? Only if you keep asking for this democracy nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 5 hours ago, AGareth2 said: so are we going to get bombings on a regular basis? A few false flags should do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Tanoshi said: Not surprising when his 'government' are reported to have spent 85% of Thailand's reserves. Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha, is reported to be the world's richest monarch with a net worth of around $40 billion. That's some salary........or not! Think you're confusing the PM with somebody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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