Hi speed train coming to Pattaya.

[thaibeachlovers]

Happened to catch an item on tv this am. In Thai, so don't know when, but according to the graphics it is going to be pretty fantastic. Dotted lines to indicate that it would be extended past Pattaya later.

 

Starts at Swampy and follows the coast part of the way.

 

Pity I won't be around long enough to use it.

 

I have to wonder though, if they know there'll be enough people going back and forth to Pattaya to make the gazillion baht investment financially viable. If so, wonder what it is. Maybe a casino?

 

The last time I went from Pattaya to Ekamai, I was on a bus that I used about 15 years ago and was falling apart. A couple of seats had actually collapsed, and they still put people in them! We really need an upgrade.

[Upnotover]

Lets hope it links up with the soon coming tram, that will make this town a transportation wonderland, just imagine, Airplane, Train, Tram, Ferry.....and you are in Hua Hin.

[Crossy]

28 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

...and you are in Hua Hin.

 

if they actually build all the planned routes (yes, I know) you'll be able to access HH (almost) directly.

 

Well, rather more directly than your current plan anyway

 

[champers]

It is all part of the planned EEC (Eastern Economic Corridor) which will run from Don Muang to Rayong. Much foreign investment is required and it seems China will provide much of this. Other countries may partake to ensure Chinese influence is not total, only partial. Rolls Royce are supposedly interested (jet engines division). The Thai big boss is off to USA for a visit shortly, so expect some interest from there.

Whether you are around to see plans bear fruit may depend on who is in charge of construction. I expect Sino-Thai JVs.

Section 44 legislation, recently issued, will speed up the procedural and permissions side of things.

I imagine that where you are heading; Chiang Mai; there is some disquiet that major financial investments seem only to occur in Bangkok and cities close by.

Please carry out an investigatipn whilst you are up there and report back ASAP.

[KittenKong]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Pity I won't be around long enough to use it.

 

I'm 61 so I probably wont be around for it either.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, champers said:

It is all part of the planned EEC (Eastern Economic Corridor) which will run from Don Muang to Rayong. Much foreign investment is required and it seems China will provide much of this. Other countries may partake to ensure Chinese influence is not total, only partial. Rolls Royce are supposedly interested (jet engines division). The Thai big boss is off to USA for a visit shortly, so expect some interest from there.

Whether you are around to see plans bear fruit may depend on who is in charge of construction. I expect Sino-Thai JVs.

Section 44 legislation, recently issued, will speed up the procedural and permissions side of things.

I imagine that where you are heading; Chiang Mai; there is some disquiet that major financial investments seem only to occur in Bangkok and cities close by.

Please carry out an investigatipn whilst you are up there and report back ASAP.

I'll probably be dead before it gets built.

 

I haven't seen any evidence of improvements in the road network, but it's early days.

They did make the railway better all the way to C M.

[tomwct]

I'm with all of you. Fast speed train to Pattaya maybe 25 years. The Khon Kaen underpass took ten years and financed three times because the money disappeared, so a train. maybe 30-35 years. In Thailand maybe never! It;s a Dream! Amazing Thailand.

[Guderian]

1 hour ago, tomwct said:

 The Khon Kaen underpass took ten years

 

Sounds par for the course. By the time they've completed the South and North Road underpasses in Pattaya (if ever) it'll probably have taken well over 10 years in total.

[carlyai]

Reporting from The Gateway To The Universe, the section of road, looks like a 2 to 4 lane highway, from the sea in Vietnam to the sea in Burma is being constructed.
Just outside Kuchinari the section from Mukdahan is well on the way.
The only problem so the village Kanman says is that many contractors have 10 km sections each.
I'm a pessimist, I expect to drive this road Vietnam to Burma before I croak.


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[NanLaew]

13 hours ago, tomwct said:

The Khon Kaen underpass took ten years

Ten years? I recall driving through KK before, during and after the construction and I was only in Udon for maybe 8 years tops.

[fforest1]

Do you guys think a high speed train from Bangkok to Pattaya

will cost 120 Baht?....The same as it cost to take a bus now....

 

 

Bangkok is 174km from Pattaya.....

Lets go with a average of 18 cents cost per km for the high speed train to Pattaya...

At 18 cents per km it would cost 31 dollars and 32 cents or close

to 1,000 baht to take the high speed train from Bangkok to

Pattaya....

http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/09/08/getting-the-price-right-how-much-should-high-speed-fares-cost/

[fforest1]

I forgot to say if China is looking for a higher return on their

investment the high speed train could easily cost 1,500 baht

or more one way from Bangkok to Pattaya...

[thaibeachlovers]

26 minutes ago, fforest1 said:

I forgot to say if China is looking for a higher return on their

investment the high speed train could easily cost 1,500 baht

or more one way from Bangkok to Pattaya...

If they build the casino those prices will not be a problem.

Unfortunately, probably none of us will be able to afford to live in Pattaya.

[KittenKong]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If they build the casino those prices will not be a problem.

Unfortunately, probably none of us will be able to afford to live in Pattaya.

 

I should worry.

 

Once the casino and the high speed rail link and the monorail are all working I will just sell my Jomtien condo and with the profits I'll buy one overlooking Central Park in NYC.

[carlyai]

 
I should worry.
 
Once the casino and the high speed rail link and the monorail are all working I will just sell my Jomtien condo and with the profits I'll buy one overlooking Central Park in NYC.

Me too, my house is 20 min walking from the new Casino. [emoji204]

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[Dario]

On 6/3/2017 at 6:48 PM, KittenKong said:

 

I'm 61 so I probably wont be around for it either.

Unless you hit the age of 200. Apparently this is forthcoming.

[Wim1954]

On 6/3/2017 at 8:05 PM, tomwct said:

I'm with all of you. Fast speed train to Pattaya maybe 25 years. The Khon Kaen underpass took ten years and financed three times because the money disappeared, so a train. maybe 30-35 years. In Thailand maybe never! It;s a Dream! Amazing Thailand.

The fast train will past Pattaya heading to Rayong it's not getting into Pattaya.

Edited June 5, 2017 by Wim1954

[chicowoodduck]

[johng]

Me too, my house is 20 min walking from the new Casino. [emoji204]

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Allegedly my apartment is just across the road from the "casino"

But recently I asked a Thai Navy Captain who says he knows the owner and management of the alleged hotel where there is rumored to be a whole floor sealed off waiting for the law to allow gambling...he says the rumour is untrue...so for my profit I'll have to depend on the highway 7 extension,
Utapao airport becoming the ASEAN
aviation hub and the highspeed rail link connecting Bangkok to Rayong
hopefully passing through Pattaya/Jomtien.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Wim1954 said:

The fast train will past Pattaya heading to Rayong it's not getting into Pattaya.

At last. This is a high speed commuter train to get Rayong residents into their offices in the big mango and back home in time for tea.

 

Sexpats, retirees and others serving long-term sentences in Pattaya can use the bus.

[Bangkok Barry]

To those writing about a casino - there is a very good reason that Thailand alone(?) in the region has no casinos. Those who run the illegal ones, the untouchables, would lose billions of baht. So Thai casinos are never going to happen.

[NanLaew]

41 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

To those writing about a casino - there is a very good reason that Thailand alone(?) in the region has no casinos. Those who run the illegal ones, the untouchables, would lose billions of baht. So Thai casinos are never going to happen.

Another false prophecy.

[1BADDAT]

On 6/3/2017 at 9:51 PM, fforest1 said:

Do you guys think a high speed train from Bangkok to Pattaya

will cost 120 Baht?....The same as it cost to take a bus now....

 

 

Bangkok is 174km from Pattaya.....

Lets go with a average of 18 cents cost per km for the high speed train to Pattaya...

At 18 cents per km it would cost 31 dollars and 32 cents or close

to 1,000 baht to take the high speed train from Bangkok to

Pattaya....

http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/09/08/getting-the-price-right-how-much-should-high-speed-fares-cost/

BKK is 150 km from pattaya according to google maps.  Suvarnabhumi is 122 km away from pattaya and that is where it is supposed to start.  So you theoretical calculations seem to be off.  

 

Of course it is not going to cost 120 baht for the ticket.  Why would the price be the same as a 20 year old death trap of a bus that takes forever?  I know I am not the norm but I would gladly pay 1000 baht to get to suvarnabhumi in less than an hour (just a guess)and not have to worry about parking.

[champers]

20 minutes ago, 1BADDAT said:

BKK is 150 km from pattaya according to google maps.  Suvarnabhumi is 122 km away from pattaya and that is where it is supposed to start.  So you theoretical calculations seem to be off.  

 

Of course it is not going to cost 120 baht for the ticket.  Why would the price be the same as a 20 year old death trap of a bus that takes forever?  I know I am not the norm but I would gladly pay 1000 baht to get to suvarnabhumi in less than an hour (just a guess)and not have to worry about parking.

1000 Baht is roughly the same as what you would pay for a taxi door to door. A train would have to give over a lot of space for luggage and that would be reflected in pricing.

[fforest1]

1 hour ago, 1BADDAT said:

BKK is 150 km from pattaya according to google maps.  Suvarnabhumi is 122 km away from pattaya and that is where it is supposed to start.  So you theoretical calculations seem to be off.  

 

Of course it is not going to cost 120 baht for the ticket.  Why would the price be the same as a 20 year old death trap of a bus that takes forever?  I know I am not the norm but I would gladly pay 1000 baht to get to suvarnabhumi in less than an hour (just a guess)and not have to worry about parking.

Yes I screwed up I ment to say 147km from Bangkok to Pattaya

not 174km....I am not quite sure how this happened?...

Anyways the the point being that high speed trains may be

fast but they are not cheap....

 

[bert bloggs]

IT will be coming ,very slowly knowing the way Thais do anything .

[sandyf]

On 6/3/2017 at 8:05 PM, tomwct said:

I'm with all of you. Fast speed train to Pattaya maybe 25 years. The Khon Kaen underpass took ten years and financed three times because the money disappeared, so a train. maybe 30-35 years. In Thailand maybe never! It;s a Dream! Amazing Thailand.

The ridiculous thing is that it doesn't need to be high speed. There is already a line from Pattaya to the airport. The one train a day that currently runs takes an hour from Pattaya to Chonburi, about as fast as you can do it on the road. From Chonburi to the airport interchange is nearly 2 hours, just stops too much.

I wouldn't have thought it was rocket science to put on additional limited stop trains between Pattaya and Bangkok.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎05‎.‎06‎.‎2017 at 11:09 AM, Wim1954 said:

The fast train will past Pattaya heading to Rayong it's not getting into Pattaya.

It's following the rail line so it will be in Pattaya north of Sukhumvit.

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, sandyf said:

The ridiculous thing is that it doesn't need to be high speed. There is already a line from Pattaya to the airport. The one train a day that currently runs takes an hour from Pattaya to Chonburi, about as fast as you can do it on the road. From Chonburi to the airport interchange is nearly 2 hours, just stops too much.

I wouldn't have thought it was rocket science to put on additional limited stop trains between Pattaya and Bangkok.

Insufficient customers.

The high speed train isn't about Pattaya. Think belt and road.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎06‎.‎06‎.‎2017 at 6:50 AM, 1BADDAT said:

BKK is 150 km from pattaya according to google maps.  Suvarnabhumi is 122 km away from pattaya and that is where it is supposed to start.  So you theoretical calculations seem to be off.  

 

Of course it is not going to cost 120 baht for the ticket.  Why would the price be the same as a 20 year old death trap of a bus that takes forever?  I know I am not the norm but I would gladly pay 1000 baht to get to suvarnabhumi in less than an hour (just a guess)and not have to worry about parking.

Takes forever- LOL.

 

Used to take over 4 hours. 2 hours isn't bad.