Nightlife shut down again in chaweng

[CG1 Blue]

12 hours ago, TheLobster said:

 

With respect KhunPer, I have only lived on Samui for a meagre 10 years. I'm not talking specifically about the Green Mango Club but I know because of the number of tourists, the Green Mango Area attracts the lower forms of life on Samui.

 

I have found the bars and restaurants in the area to be in the same mode of modus operandi, 'make the most out of the customer' such as exorbitant bills or poor food. They don't care because they think you are tourists and won't be back in the near future. I'm sure as a 'regular' you get treated much better 

 

On leaving there are 'the vultures' including taxi drivers, pick pockets and Lady Boys.

 

If you wish for some consolation, it is probably far more dangerous to ride around the island on a motorbike, particularly around Bangrak, Chaweng, Lamai and inbetween.

 

Kind regards,

 

TheLobster

You're not talking specifically about the Green Mango Club, but the whole area?  Now you tell us!

With respect, this sounds like the opinion of somebody who has rarely frequented Soi Green Mango. 

[CG1 Blue]

19 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Me too – was also at Green Mango Club – quite dangerous with all the foreign tourist ladies trying to squeeze me, I may fall down from the dance podium... 
Must admit, I was so busy trying to stay put up there – and get loose of the scary ladies' hug – that I didn't notice that evening's major incident on the floor; that was a pity...

How about that nasty foreign man in the gents toilets who offers you a towel to dry your hands with. I saw him take a 10 baht tip once.  Be careful out there my friends....

[Bigdogfarang]

32 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

Which part of "In my own experience" did you not understand?

 

Yours is different and I say lucky for you, I hope it remains that way.

I wasn't referring to you specifically just the trend of some residents who live here to constantly live in fear on the locals makes me wonder why bother to live here.

 

but in relation to your horrific experiences and they do sound that way - in 20 years here thankfully I've never seen anything like what you describe despite going to soi green mango 100s of times - when was your experience - how long ago and how long since you last went to soi green mango at night? As it is nothing remotely like what you describe now - almost the complete opposite - for somewhere that serves so much cheap booze I would say it's remarkable how little trouble there is - as I've said certainly less than any comparable venue where alcohol is served in the west 

[PoorSucker]

I prefer the yellow Mango, mature and more taste.

[khunPer]

24 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

How about that nasty foreign man in the gents toilets who offers you a towel to dry your hands with. I saw him take a 10 baht tip once.  Be careful out there my friends....

I always pee before I go out at night, and hold on till I get back – I'm too scared to ever again experience something like the man (I presume) in now defunct Sound Club, starting to massage one's shoulders during the act, then handing a towel, and expecting a tip (which is hard to avoid, if one is polite) – however, I've hear stories that some liked it (the shoulder massage)...

[PoorSucker]

26 minutes ago, khunPer said:

I always pee before I go out at night, and hold on till I get back – I'm too scared to ever again experience something like the man (I presume) in now defunct Sound Club, starting to massage one's shoulders during the act, then handing a towel, and expecting a tip (which is hard to avoid, if one is polite) – however, I've hear stories that some liked it (the shoulder massage)...

 

I always tip the towel men 20 baht for "NO MASSAGE KRAP..."

[khunPer]

12 hours ago, TheLobster said:

 

With respect KhunPer, I have only lived on Samui for a meagre 10 years. I'm not talking specifically about the Green Mango Club but I know because of the number of tourists, the Green Mango Area attracts the lower forms of life on Samui.

 

I have found the bars and restaurants in the area to be in the same mode of modus operandi, 'make the most out of the customer' such as exorbitant bills or poor food. They don't care because they think you are tourists and won't be back in the near future. I'm sure as a 'regular' you get treated much better 

 

On leaving there are 'the vultures' including taxi drivers, pick pockets and Lady Boys.

 

If you wish for some consolation, it is probably far more dangerous to ride around the island on a motorbike, particularly around Bangrak, Chaweng, Lamai and inbetween.

 

Kind regards,

 

TheLobster

Thanks for your reply.

However, you seem to moderate your earlier statement,

»Green Mango is a dangerous place to be on your own, no matter what age you are«, 

to something with that you think the bars and restaurants in the area around the club are overpriced compared to the quality served – and presume tourists are not coming back because of that – and furthermore complaining about taxi drivers, pick pockets and "lady boys".

 

I think that "Fisherman Village" is a ridiculous overpriced place with some (not all) restaurants not serving the quality you expect for the price they charge – talk from my own experience – and taxi drives there are charging way too high fares. Furthermore there's the massive number of tourists, especially on Fridays, but also Mondays – and I've even seen "lady boys" there. However, I know it's a trendy up-end place with exorbitant high rents, and as part of your bill in a bar, or pub, or restaurant is for where you sit and enjoy what's served, I accept that part of the game – which by the way is universal, I find the same game in areas of "safe" Copenhagen, and London, and...

 

Now, based on that, I shall say that "Fisherman Village" in Bo Phut is a dangerous place to be on your own, no matter what age you are..?

–well, It's actually quite dark and deserted at night time...

 

By the way, I meet many returning tourists in Green Mango Club – many come as say hello, because they remember me fra last year, or five years ago, or even every year since the Samui Regatta started (7 years?) –  and ask if they may have another selfie together with me, showing me the one one of them and me from last year, or two years ago, which is still in their smartphone. So I honestly presume, at least some tourists are coming back to Green Mango Club, even it's so dangerous, and even the prices in that particular area of Samui are exorbitant.

 

When I came to Samui first time in 2001, I was warned about Lamai – Lamai is such a dangerous place, that one should never go there – and during my second visit to the paradise island, also in 2001, I dared to get to the edge of the prohibited zone, it was a dinner at The Pavillion, just at the entrance of the beach road; by the way a quite nice candle-light beach-front experience, but vastly overpriced for what it was (which should confirm that Lamai was such a dangerous place). Therefore, based on all kind advises, I spend my evening outings in safe Raggae Pub area (still a major event at that time), and Green Mango Club area, and after parties at a long vanished place called "The Club" (that later re-appeared as Bar Solo, the one in the back of the soi, where the stadium now is).

 

When I finally got rid of my scare of dangerous Lamai, I had some great time there – for a number of years I spend about a month there every year, even I had a fixed bungalow in Maenam, because Lamai had a great night-life, with Saturday Boxing, lots of exciting bars (most of them in safe Chaweng was boring compared to Lamai), where you could spend hours just watching the funny activity going on. Not to forget the amazing band playing (with a pair of scary amazons) in the Irish pub – however I always avoided boring Bauhuas and the mandatory soap-boble-party, but their Wednesday half-price cocktails were Okay – and after-party with house-mix in Fuzion Club (said to be a dangerous drug dealing club, saw many big police officers there, but as guests), and until Sunrise in unforgettable "Super Sub", which was mainly a Thai place, and therefore also sometime fighting and shooting (which I never experienced myself, but that eventually closed it, after the Thai band ran away, because of an event with guns). Even the beach was dangerous – some may recall an extremely sad story (Katherine Horton) – but I still walked there at night, even alone, and I also walked alone home to my bungalow though deserted streets (sometime a girl, I presume she was, on a motorbike kindly gave me lift for free), and I never felt scared, even I perhaps should...

 

Perhaps Green Mango area has taken over from dangerous Lamai, now most of the night life there has vanished – Lamai must be safe now, because the restaurants i visit nowadays are all fair priced, and the food served is good value for the money, and the beer bars around the boxing stadium are affordable...

 

But I agree with you, you're spot on when mentioning the Samui-traffic as the real dangerous part – probably the most dangerous in the World – however, that's not particularly in the Green Mango area... 

[Samui Bodoh]

2 hours ago, Bigdogfarang said:

It does seem a shame that some of the long term residents here seem to live their life in fear of the native population and believe all of the sensational headlines they read in the papers vs those that actually go out and see it for themselves - I guess pensioners here are no different to home at then UK sat reading the tabloids scared

to leave their own homes. Sad really. 

 

I can't really comment on the safety of the Green Mango area as I haven't been down there late at night for many years. Honestly, I rarely ever went as I have never seen the point of being out and about at 2-3 AM, but that is just me.

 

However, the idea that "residents live in fear of the native population" because they aren't at the Green Mango at 2 AM is utter nonsense. In fact, most of the native population isn't actually at the Green Mango at night, but rather a very, very small sub-set. Most of the native/resident population have jobs and go to work in the morning.

 

Further, the idea that residents are " ...sat reading the tabloids scared." is also quite humorous. Koh Samui has many wonderful things; I see from your posts that you enjoy the Green Mango most nights (good on you- have fun!). I prefer to do other things, none of which involve trembling while I "read the tabloids".

 

Cheers

[smokie36]

2 hours ago, Bigdogfarang said:

I wasn't referring to you specifically just the trend of some residents who live here to constantly live in fear on the locals makes me wonder why bother to live here.

 

but in relation to your horrific experiences and they do sound that way - in 20 years here thankfully I've never seen anything like what you describe despite going to soi green mango 100s of times - when was your experience - how long ago and how long since you last went to soi green mango at night? As it is nothing remotely like what you describe now - almost the complete opposite - for somewhere that serves so much cheap booze I would say it's remarkable how little trouble there is - as I've said certainly less than any comparable venue where alcohol is served in the west 

 

I was last there when Sound Bar was still open.

 

Indeed I was passing through in a taxi when a massive brawl broke out betweek local kids and young tourists.

 

Both were battling it out with bottles and whatever else they could get their hands on, at least a dozen on each side.

 

Not my idea of a fun evening out.

 

Hence why I have never ventured there since.

 

Other events over many years as I documented, I'm just getting too old to put up with such nonsense.

[CG1 Blue]

2 hours ago, khunPer said:

I always pee before I go out at night, and hold on till I get back – I'm too scared to ever again experience something like the man (I presume) in now defunct Sound Club, starting to massage one's shoulders during the act, then handing a towel, and expecting a tip (which is hard to avoid, if one is polite) – however, I've hear stories that some liked it (the shoulder massage)...

I can imagine the response the toilet attendants in London would get if they started massaging blokes while they were taking a slash

[samuijimmy]

21 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

I can imagine the response the toilet attendants in London would get if they started massaging blokes while they were taking a slash

 

This song came to mind! 

 

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ORUZxO0tw0

[khunPer]

1 hour ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

I was last there when Sound Bar was still open.

 

Indeed I was passing through in a taxi when a massive brawl broke out betweek local kids and young tourists.

 

Both were battling it out with bottles and whatever else they could get their hands on, at least a dozen on each side.

 

Not my idea of a fun evening out.

 

Hence why I have never ventured there since.

 

Other events over many years as I documented, I'm just getting too old to put up with such nonsense.

It was not really inside Green Mango Club, but in soi Sound, where the taxis are driving through...

[CG1 Blue]

32 minutes ago, samuijimmy said:

 

This song came to mind! 

 

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ORUZxO0tw0

Very good .  And thanks for getting that song stuck in my head for the next 24 hours  

[TheLobster]

23 hours ago, RonniePickering22 said:

Lobster they are probably running bars in the area, its the only reasonable excuse for their myopic nonsense.

Agreed 

 

11 hours ago, steelerian said:

This thread does amuse me. Some of you must lead very sheltered lives, and be scared to just wake up in the mornings. 

Well you can read my posts, I'm not scared, I'm aware! See when I say the roads are dangerous, nobody says I'm scared. I'm aware, I drive or ride accordingly and hope to avoid an accident. I do the same when I go out in the evening. Get the point?

 

10 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

You're not talking specifically about the Green Mango Club, but the whole area?  Now you tell us!

With respect, this sounds like the opinion of somebody who has rarely frequented Soi Green Mango. 

With respect you have been on these forums for a couple of months, so IMO your posts mean diddly squat to me (As Ronnie P Kray says you must have a vested interest), and you multiple post without reply which is a particularly annoying habit, IMO.

 

9 hours ago, Bigdogfarang said:

I wasn't referring to you specifically just the trend of some residents who live here to constantly live in fear on the locals makes me wonder why bother to live here.

With respect you have been on these forums for a couple of months, so IMO your posts mean diddly squat to me (As Ronnie P Kray says you must have a vested interest)

 

9 hours ago, khunPer said:

Thanks for your reply.

However, you seem to moderate your earlier statement,

»Green Mango is a dangerous place to be on your own, no matter what age you are«, 

to something with that you think the bars and restaurants in the area around the club are overpriced compared to the quality served – and presume tourists are not coming back because of that – and furthermore complaining about taxi drivers, pick pockets and "lady boys".

 

I think that "Fisherman Village" is a ridiculous overpriced place with some (not all) restaurants not serving the quality you expect for the price they charge 

 

But I agree with you, you're spot on when mentioning the Samui-traffic as the real dangerous part – probably the most dangerous in the World – however, that's not particularly in the Green Mango area... 

Sorry to cut your post short, and I must say your English is very good.

 

I explained the situation and my feelings/experiences and those of my friends, I was even kind enough to omit 'the shootings'.

 

I agree that Fishermans Village is a rip off but you don't see the same level of violence there.

 

I have explained earlier regarding my description of dangerous whether it be Green Mango or the 'Roads of Samui'. People who say I'm scared when I say something is dangerous don't know me.

 

Kind regards,

 

TheLobster

Edited June 23, 2017 by TheLobster
Correction

[Bigdogfarang]

9 hours ago, TheLobster said:

Agreed 

 

Well you can read my posts, I'm not scared, I'm aware! See when I say the roads are dangerous, nobody says I'm scared. I'm aware, I drive or ride accordingly and hope to avoid an accident. I do the same when I go out in the evening. Get the point?

 

With respect you have been on these forums for a couple of months, so IMO your posts mean diddly squat to me (As Ronnie P Kray says you must have a vested interest), and you multiple post without reply which is a particularly annoying habit, IMO.

 

With respect you have been on these forums for a couple of months, so IMO your posts mean diddly squat to me (As Ronnie P Kray says you must have a vested interest)

 

Sorry to cut your post short, and I must say your English is very good.

 

I explained the situation and my feelings/experiences and those of my friends, I was even kind enough to omit 'the shootings'.

 

I agree that Fishermans Village is a rip off but you don't see the same level of violence there.

 

I have explained earlier regarding my description of dangerous whether it be Green Mango or the 'Roads of Samui'. People who say I'm scared when I say something is dangerous don't know me.

 

Kind regards,

 

TheLobster

Lol a forum snob - I've been here longer than you so my opinion matters more than yours - what a silly argument 

[khunPer]

On 6/23/2017 at 8:27 PM, TheLobster said:

Sorry to cut your post short, and I must say your English is very good.

Thanks...

 

And by the way, talking about dangerous night-life places, some of my usual reliable informers told me last night that "Camp Beer" has re-opened, after the shooting-incident punishment-closure seemed over. Camp Beer is one the places where Thais spend their night out – and presumable one the the real dangerous places, not attractive for many a foreigner...
 

Quote

SAMUI: -- A policeman was fatally shot and a security guard was killed when a drunk cop allegedly opened fire at a bar on Koh Samui following a quarrel early Friday. Another policeman and four other civilians were injured.

 

[TheLobster]

I don't know anyone who would go to 'Camp Beer'. As you say it would seem to be a Thai venue and irrelevant to tourists.

[PoorSucker]

I don't know anyone who would go to 'Camp Beer'. As you say it would seem to be a Thai venue and irrelevant to tourists.

Been there many times, never any problem, maybe I hang around with the right Thai crew.

[smokie36]

1 hour ago, PoorSucker said:

Been there many times, never any problem, maybe I hang around with the right Thai crew.

 

Has the sky fallen yet Valkyrie?

[khunPer]

15 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

Been there many times, never any problem, maybe I hang around with the right Thai crew.

Wow, you are hanging out at more dangerous shooting events, than I imagined.  

 

I've been at Camp Beer once only; extremely boring – for me, but could be caused by I never drink beer – and the band played fairly bad through a way to loud and utterly distorted PA. Never know at such places, if the attractive cute girls dancing – Thai men don't seem to dance at that kind of venues – are alone, or wife, or small mia, or gik of one Thai fellows that immediately will protect his property if a farang (and presumable anybody else) get too close. But perhaps I just mingle with "the wrong Thai crew"..?

 

However my girlfriend and her girly friends, and that friends on their own, seem to love outings to there – but they also enjoy the spicy food served – and then continue later at scary Green Mango Club...

Edited June 26, 2017 by khunPer

[huberthammer]

I love how the "old" hats have taken the sting out of a conversation which started to become a poisonous "mine is bigger than yours" contest. Love to hear the old stories and nice to hear from people who actually still enjoy the place after such a long time. 

 

Not enough sweet memories and too much bitter pickering on the forum these days.

[smokie36]

7 hours ago, huberthammer said:

I love how the "old" hats have taken the sting out of a conversation which started to become a poisonous "mine is bigger than yours" contest. Love to hear the old stories and nice to hear from people who actually still enjoy the place after such a long time. 

 

Not enough sweet memories and too much bitter pickering on the forum these days.

 

Au contraire my old son.

 

I used to love a wander down the yellow brick road for a day's fun and games at the pub with fantastic company, scenery and solitude in equal measures.

[CG1 Blue]

On ‎23‎/‎06‎/‎2017 at 7:27 PM, TheLobster said:

With respect you have been on these forums for a couple of months, so IMO your posts mean diddly squat to me (As Ronnie P Kray says you must have a vested interest), and you multiple post without reply which is a particularly annoying habit, IMO.

 

My only vested interest is that I enjoy the nightlife scene around Chaweng, and I'd like it to stay!

And I'm sorry to hear you don't like my posting style.  Sometimes life gets in the way of my internet surfing, and then I have to 'multiple post' to catch up. I'll try harder to be more like you in future

But anyway, I haven't been on the forum long enough, so you probably won't read this  

[TheLobster]

3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Sometimes life gets in the way of my internet surfing, and then I have to 'multiple post' to catch up. 

If you click the + sign next to the quote then you can post multiple quotes. You can edit for a short time after you have posted if you decide that you have forgotten something.

 

Not too difficult, even I can do it 

 

I like the scene around Chaweng as well, that's one of the reasons I live here. I just know enough to want to be home before the low life come out to play.

[khunPer]

1 hour ago, TheLobster said:

...I like the scene around Chaweng as well, that's one of the reasons I live here. I just know enough to want to be home before the low life come out to play.

I suddenly realize that I'm "low life"...

[Bigdogfarang]

10 hours ago, khunPer said:

I suddenly realize that I'm "low life"...

I think he was referring to the fictional thai gangsters with guns and knives that line soi mango every night waiting to attack tourists 

[smokie36]

59 minutes ago, Bigdogfarang said:

I think he was referring to the fictional thai gangsters with guns and knives that line soi mango every night waiting to attack tourists 

 

More like drunk or drugged local youth hanging around on bikes.

 

You are such a drama queen! 

[Samui Bodoh]

Can we all agree that we want everyone both happy and safe in their late night activities and call it a day?

[samuijimmy]

36 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Can we all agree that we want everyone both happy and safe in their late night activities and call it a day?

 

I think yes!

 

It's just going to go on and on, and get nowhere.... and we can't have Khun Per being considered "low life" that just does not fit his  real life image~!

 

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