San Patong (Ban Klaeng) ---On the way to buy land

[Socky]

Hi there,

i am on the way to buy land in San Patong (Ban Klaeng) for my thai wife. Is there anything special to think about (Flood, earth quake……) on this Area?  Mabye anybody in this Forum who stay there?

[KhonKaenKowboy]

Seems to always get mentioned when the subjects of polygamy, cock fighting, or dog meat come up.  Lots of rice out there.  Yellow songtaews go through it.  I would do some investigations on flooding.

[Socky]

Anybody else who can tell something about San Patong, Ban Klaeng  (mabye it call "Ban Klang"?) Area? :-)

[Trujillo]

You want to buy land you can't own, in an area you have so little knowledge of you need to ask here?

 

I suggest you read Private Dancer again. ...

[Socky]

18 minutes ago, Trujillo said:

You want to buy land you can't own, in an area you have so little knowledge of you need to ask here?

 

I suggest you read Private Dancer again. ...

YES, because my Thai wife (of course land will be under here name) she is not original from Northern. That´s why we will be happy to talk with somebody who stay there (San Patong, Ban Klaeng), or who know about this area very well. I don´t think that´s bad.....

Edited July 9, 2017 by Socky

[cyberfarang]

16 minutes ago, Socky said:

YES, because my Thai wife (of course land will be under here name) she is not original from Northern. That´s why we will be happy to talk with somebody who stay there (San Patong, Ban Klaeng), or who know about this area very well. I don´t think that´s bad.....

Sorry, but you are breaking the law. Buying land in Thailand in your Thai wife`s name is not a loophole around the law.

 

I live not far from you, around the back of the Hang Dong hospital and would never buy land there that I could not own and breaking the law by doing so and this is the special thing you should be thinking about.

 

Go and take advice from a lawyer to see if there are any legal ways you can get around the legalities of Farlangs buying land in Thailand.

 

 

[Socky]

2 hours ago, cyberfarang said:

Sorry, but you are breaking the law. Buying land in Thailand in your Thai wife`s name is not a loophole around the law.

 

I live not far from you, around the back of the Hang Dong hospital and would never buy land there that I could not own and breaking the law by doing so and this is the special thing you should be thinking about.

 

Go and take advice from a lawyer to see if there are any legal ways you can get around the legalities of Farlangs buying land in Thailand.

 

 

Why my Thai wife can´t buy and own land in Thailand? So, it mean all about the Thai Expats who stay Thailand, and married with Thai woman breaking the law because they buy land under name from Thai wife? I think you just kidding.....

[worgeordie]

If you can afford it,and are prepared to walk away from it,if things go tits up,

go for it,you'll only be one of many 1000's that are technically breaking the law,

good luck, P.S. dont pay the asking price.,you do know the price of land in that area ?

 

regards worgeordie

[elektrified]

I wouldn't live in San Patong for free. In fact you couldn't pay me to live there.

 

You should speak with a lawyer as what has been said above is true.

[KhonKaenKowboy]

And even the usafruct agreements they have been pushing lately are in grey areas at best, as they were not intended to be used as a way for a foreigner to use residential property.  Knowing someone at the land office and having a truly legal agreement are two different things, even if it is approved.  

[cyberfarang]

I`ve been with my Thai girlfriend for many years. We rent a 3 bedroom house together from her brother that sits on just over half a rai of land. I am here on yearly retirement extensions.

 

My girlfriend wants us to officially get married, buy her brother`s land and house and a couple of rai of lumyai land nearby, with my money of course. I asked her, as I`m here as a retiree, what are the benefits for me if we actually marry? Why would I invest a lot of my hard earned money into land and a house I could never own and probably breaking the law by financing it. At the moment my girlfriend`s family treat me very well because I financially support my girlfriend and her mother. That could all change if we marry.

 

I said; I will marry her and buy the lands and house if I am given a rock solid legal agreement that my stake in the land is legally recognised and no one can throw me off if the relationship turned soar or my wife dies. And guess what? Not possible to obtain any such guarantees as a Farlang living in Thailand. So to the OP, I have checked, double checked and checked again, you cannot legally finance a plot of land in Thailand, not even in a Thai wife`s name, unless under a company name or a BOI scheme, and even then there are many restrictions.

 

I am seriously considering marrying my GF next year so she will be eligible to receive my pension if I die first. But investing into something I can never own, have no rights over and everyone else stands to benefit besides me, is a definite no no and any Farlangs that do, are complete mugs.

[Paul Catton]

Opal bought a residential lot (400,000THB) in San Patong, as did her her sister-in-law in the same development.

Sister-in-law built a modest house on hers as she works locally in the Chiang Mai Educational District Office. 

However, there's little likelihood that Opal will ever get hers developed as really it's surplus to requirement for any use by her/us.

No barrier for a Thai person who happens to be married to an alien from property ownership.

 

 

[KhonKaenKowboy]

Unless she got the money from the farang for the purpose of land acquisition.

[Paul Catton]

20 minutes ago, KhonKaenKowboy said:

Unless she got the money from the farang for the purpose of land acquisition.

And hence the waters get murky

[Sandy Freckle]

At one point I 'was' quite interested in a rural purchase on land above CM. All the previously mentioned 'issues' came up.., and ultimately proved to be deal breakers. Another big issue for me was that I would literally 'not' be allowed to physically undertake any tasks on said piece of land. I am not without skills, plus, I like to be 'involved and hands on'. I had the idea to (organically) plant and grow unusual tropical and semi tropical fruit trees. I would have employed some 'local help'..., but It was said to me at every step - "No can do...., must pay Thai person do all work".
As it turned out, I re-invested in my home country - where it's relatively uncorrupted, predictable, orderly, common sensical, straight forward and fair !  Nuff said.
I'll still visit CM and other parts of LOS..., but my general reckoning is that investing in Thailand is a case of..., 
"too much hat, not enough rabbit" 

Edited July 9, 2017 by Sandy Freckle

[Dante99]

3 hours ago, KhonKaenKowboy said:

Unless she got the money from the farang for the purpose of land acquisition.

Give the money, no strings attached.  Then she can do whatever she wants with it, including buying land legally.  Not really that difficult.

[evenstevens]

under the present circumstances (marshall law), my advice to the O/P   is to hang on to your  money  ,wait to see what direction,  this country  takes,

my laymans gut feeling is  South, when  E/S takes everything into account, the headwinds of the past  3 yrs plus,are picking up  which could  very well be a Force One  hurricane, in the very near future,,

its a Take It Easy  , Suck  on a Button,  good morning to all

[Bill97]

Wijii Board bs. Thailand has never looked stable but keeps it together. Politics do not rule, economic clout does and that has not changed.

[evenstevens]

4 hours ago, Bill97 said:

Wijii Board bs. Thailand has never looked stable but keeps it together. Politics do not rule, economic clout does and that has not changed.

Wijii  Board  b/s  huh!!! Polictics do not rule huh!!!

last weeks Foreigns Workers  Law that was  introduced,will blow you right out of the water

[Bill97]

Wijii  Board  b/s  huh!!! Polictics do not rule huh!!!
last weeks Foreigns Workers  Law that was  introduced,will blow you right out of the water

Since you think it is such a major impact why don't you start a new thread and explain it to us.

You seem to have the idea that laws are enforced here which is often not true.

[evenstevens]

 

34 minutes ago, Bill97 said:

Since you think it is such a major impact why don't you start a new thread and explain it to us.

You seem to have the idea that laws are enforced here which is often not true.
 

Your too mutch for the Human Unit, so  E/S   wishes to decline  your  offer   ,have a nice evening

 

Edited July 10, 2017 by evenstevens

[Bill97]

So it really is not a big thing, just dramatic bs.

[evenstevens]

12 minutes ago, Bill97 said:

So it really is not a big thing, just dramatic bs.

What ever fills your bill    (pardon the pun)

its a Carole King  good evening to all

[Socky]

23 hours ago, elektrified said:

I wouldn't live in San Patong for free. In fact you couldn't pay me to live there.

Because of what?

[Socky]

20 hours ago, Paul Catton said:

Opal bought a residential lot (400,000THB) in San Patong, as did her her sister-in-law in the same development.

Sister-in-law built a modest house on hers as she works locally in the Chiang Mai Educational District Office. 

However, there's little likelihood that Opal will ever get hers developed as really it's surplus to requirement for any use by her/us.

No barrier for a Thai person who happens to be married to an alien from property ownership.

 

 

They are happy in San Patong than?

[Socky]

In fact, thai Peoples who married with farang can buy and also own Land. That´s not wrong by law. And about the money for buy that land.....all about Land Offices in Thailand want farang sign about that this money it don´t comes from him. So, there is no problems with law.

[Paul Catton]

3 hours ago, Socky said:

They are happy in San Patong than?

Sister-in-law seems happy enough with the property being 2.2 kilometres from work.

Also reasonably handy to Chiang Mai city, 18.3km to Central Plaza Chiang Mai Airport. 

The plot that Opal purchased wouldn't suit me as I would like to be more rural with a bigger acreage to potter around with.

The matriachal family estate could be ideal (which in all likelihood is to be passed on to Opal) is located further south in Amphur Hot (90km from Chiang Mai). 

We're presently rather lucky to have more than a few irons in the fire.

[Dmaxdan]

Back to the original topic....I have lived in the Ban Klang area for eight years now without any real issues. Never seen any flooding, I did feel the big Chiang Rai earth quake a few years ago, but so did everyone else in the Chiang Mai area,  I didn't do any damage.

 

 

 

 

Oh, and by the way Socky don't listen to all the grumpy old geezers who frequent this forum. We bought land eight years ago and the wife and I have never been happier. They have no idea of your personal circumstances.

[Trujillo]

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I am seriously considering marrying my GF next year so she will be eligible to receive my pension if I die first.

...an act that could expedite your exit....

 

"He fell off the roof, really!"

[rawhod]

3 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

Back to the original topic....I have lived in the Ban Klang area for eight years now without any real issues. Never seen any flooding, I did feel the big Chiang Rai earth quake a few years ago, but so did everyone else in the Chiang Mai area,  I didn't do any damage.

 

 

 

 

Oh, and by the way Socky don't listen to all the grumpy old geezers who frequent this forum. We bought land eight years ago and the wife and I have never been happier. They have no idea of your personal circumstances.

 

Well said that man...I am in exactly the same situation and fully agree.

 

As far as I am aware, the form the foreign husband signs at the Land Office is confirmation that he relinquishes all financial interest in the land.