Pattaya's sewage treatment plants just can't cope, meeting told

[Peterw42]

1 hour ago, phantomfiddler said:

Just exactly where is this ephemeral sewage treatment plant ? I used to design them, large ones in towns and cities, and scanning over Pattaya and surrounding areas on Google Earth I have never seen anything vaguely resembling a proper sewage treatment plant !

There is one in jomtien, soi wat boon close to suk rd

 

https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Jomtien+Beach/@12.8903926,100.8917415,916m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x310296910356fe17:0xe9d09ef173c1958f!8m2!3d12.8890915!4d100.8735725

 

The other one is in Naklua I think.

 

https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/โรงบำบัดน้ำเสีย+เทศบาลนครแหลมฉบัง/@13.0706174,100.9276888,766m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!1m2!2m1!1swater+treatment+pattaya!3m4!1s0x0:0xb04543587b375c6a!8m2!3d13.0717866!4d100.9286499

 

Edited August 18, 2017 by Peterw42

[pattayadgw]

Lets be real here.... this problem is nothing new.  Its a case of mismanagement at the highest levels for a very long time.  It's not only the poor water quality it's also the plastic contamination that encompasses the whole of the gulf of Thailand and that's been like that from back in the 1980's.  Nothing is going to sort these problems in the short term and nothing will sort these problems in the long term until the government has the will and want to throw (lots) money at the problems to address them.  It will take years to sort this mess out (and thats starting today) and it's going to cost some serious money and commitment.   

[wirat69]

3 hours ago, scorecard said:

why wasn't it identified 5 years ago that the system will soon reach it's capacity 

5 years ago it was already over capacity.... long term plan 10-15 years ago should have made provision....

[spidermike007]

Of course they can cope. But, it means several officials are going to have to live with several million less baht per year, so they can build the desperately needed additional treatment plant. Pattaya is a huge city. It generates billions of baht per year in income. They can afford it. They just refuse to do the right thing, by the people. It is not a question of ability. It is a question of motivation. There is very little of that.

[theswedishguy]

in Western countries we have a bunch of local rules/laws planning building. In TH there is none of that. Its not a criticism, just the difference in thinking, and that "everything will get solved".  No pre emptive thinking. 

 

I live in Pattaya in one of the new high rise buildings. Just this complex is 1000 apartments at Soi2. Electricy: the first year we had power outages at least once a week.  The last month the transformator for this grid exploded. TWICE. 

 

The sewer problem is because of this. Erecting 50000 new condos in Pattaya in a 5 year term and no new infrastructure = electricity, communication and sewer problems. Maybe politicians should deal with this instead of making Walking Street "clean"?

 

Its a matter of planning and using resources right.

(Culture differences. Again: no disrespect but more of a funny reflection.  I take a motorbike taxi. He drives wrong way one way street. He takes shortcuts on walkways. If something happens. Its lord Buddha's will.  The person is not responsible. That mentality is the sewer problem. Its a great mentality 90% of life, but please add some boring Germanic planning/ordning. Love this country. Love the way of life. I just want it to be better for us all) 

[Xobtsiwt]

Too much shit in Pattaya - who'da thunk it?

[garbolino]

17 hours ago, Pdaz said:

How many millions did they just waste ( no pun intended ) on an underpass ?

840 MILLION so it has been reported !! And its still NOT OPEN YET !!

[johng]

Just exactly where is this ephemeral sewage treatment plant ? I used to design them, large ones in towns and cities, and scanning over Pattaya and surrounding areas on Google Earth I have never seen anything vaguely resembling a proper sewage treatment plant !

There is one on Soi Wat Boon in Jomtien
I posted photos of it before...

[Surasak]

Sounds like something messy hit more than the fan.

[sawadeeken]

Better Pattaya give the bars and prostitution the 'green light' once more..........

Better.... 'Sin City'...........

than an 'Open Sewer' for drawing crowds here.............

Then again........ This 'just happened'.......... Right?

Or did the 'swelling' problem that was not meant to be seen, just (All of a sudden) pop right out of nowhere???????

 

Too much 'focus' on 'Sin City', Not enough 'focus' in the 'RIGHT PLACES'.......  LOL.....

[Estrada]

6 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

Plus some of the liters didn't arrive as cubes but insisted on taking other shapes.

Be careful, I pointed out to TV a few weeks ago regarding another article where the reporter was mathematically challenged

and they gave me a black mark. Of course this article should read 65,000 cu.metres/day and 80,000cu.metres/day....

Now awaiting second black mark.

Edited August 18, 2017 by Estrada

[Time Traveller]

Who cares? Submarines are more important. So is the money spent on the proganda and censorship and morals police......All much much more important than a healthy clean environment. After all, the tourists love the dirty stinking water - the statistics prove it.

[tomwct]

Normal Thailand. Build, Build, Build, then worry about the  infrastructure later! They like to do everything backwards.

[Bangkok Barry]

17 hours ago, darksidedog said:

This is simply telling us something that we knew already. The water is seriously shitty and getting worse. Here's an idea, rather than uselessly raiding bars for the sake of being seen to do something, invest in the water treatment that is actually needed for a city this size. Because tourists are the lifeline of the place, and they wont be seen here if there is a constant supply of floating turds in the water at the beach.

 

What connection is there in the police raiding bars and the city council investing in better infrastructure? Please explain.

[digger70]

There you go ,they say " Shit happens " , and it does . One might think that they could have planned ahead . Oh shit no, couldn't do that that would make sense. (:

[FitnessHealthTravel]

Thailand continues to 'bite the hand that feeds it' Tourists will stop coming and they will have no one else to blame but themselves.  It's a freakin disgrace!

[Lucky mike]

The subs, I knew there was a logical reason......

[Justgrazing]

17 hours ago, Oztruckie said:

Well if they want to make Pattaya a family friendly resort,first thing to do is b sure the water is good enough for swimming, once word gets out about Pattaya water quality,bye bye Pattaya,in this world of social media,word spreads like wildfire.

Too late dude its already out there .. Y T's , sosh-media , etc some newspaper's have carried stories on it .. The cat is out of the bag .. 

[ThaiWai]

Start handing out corks

[Howiehotspur]

Yet they build and build and build more condos etc , all ofcourse need facilities for waste disposal..... 

[Estrada]

3 hours ago, phantomfiddler said:

Just exactly where is this ephemeral sewage treatment plant ? I used to design them, large ones in towns and cities, and scanning over Pattaya and surrounding areas on Google Earth I have never seen anything vaguely resembling a proper sewage treatment plant !

I also have been designing and manufacturing Sewage Treatment Plants all over the world, for the last 40 years, including some of the first in Pattaya 30 years ago. I cannot imagine how you missed the main Central Treatment plant in Pattaya which I located in Google Earth in a few seconds. For your benefit I have attached the photo, it Is located off of Soi Phon Praphanimit 5. I believe that it is currently under repair as some tanks are leaking. The second plant is on Soi Wat Boonkanjanarom Jomtien. The two plants combined are designed for 85,000Cu.metres/day.

Edited August 18, 2017 by Estrada

[jayguzz]

Even if they clean it up, still not a nice beach. Packed with busses full of Chinese tourists blocking the street and sidewalks


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[Sydebolle]

Well, Kobkarn - the minister of tourism (in real language "minister of funny entertainment") said it all along - people come to Thailand for its nature - go figure. 
The waste water treatment plant on the dark side of Sukhumvit, which I pass often, is NEVER in operation. Maybe the same engineers at the helm who are in charge of the underpass ........

[johng]

The second plant is on Soi Wat Boonkanjanarom Jomtien. The two plants combined are designed for 85,000Cu.metres/day.

Is the Wat Boon plant actually working ?

[Elkski]

More shitty news about Thailand.   Why not cap hotel occupancy so capacity will stay below 80,000 capacity to treat?  Should be officially closed beach water area until healthy water returns.    Have the raids really taken the fun out of the night life?  No wonder so many 20+ million houses advertised for sale on here

[darksidedog]

49 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

What connection is there in the police raiding bars and the city council investing in better infrastructure? Please explain.

It is all about image and priorities. They waste time and money raiding bars, which we all know is going to do absolutely nothing. Whatever is going on at any given bar will continue to go on, either in the same place next day or somewhere just up the road.But the bad press the town has had makes the zombies in power focus on quick solutions. They genuinely believed all the problems would go away with a few raids. In the meantime, things that really have an impact on the town , such as in this case, wastewater infrastructure, nothing has been done. Why? Because Thais don't plan ahead or think about necessary items until loss of face leaves them no option. And that is where we are today. Hope that clarifies it for you.

[NanLaew]

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Plants built to handle 65,000 cubic liters of waste water per day were not able to cope with the 80,000 liters now experienced at the resort.

I guess it was convenient for them to ignore the fact that the previous city administration had chosen to cancel the maintenance contract on the 10 year-old sewage treatment plant after only 3 years and allowed it to slowly decay.

 

Pattaya officials admitted Dec. 15 that the 1.8-billion-baht plant has been processing only 20 percent of the 65,000 cu. meters of water it is supposed to be treating each day. The rest has simply been flowing out untreated and leaking from un-maintained pipes and storage tanks.

[Thaidream]

I had my honeymoon in Pattaya almost 50 years ago. It was as close as I have ever come to paradise. there was one Western Hotel and beautiful Thai bungalows . the water was pristine and the people genuinely friendly.  There were a few Thai bars but no crime and certainly no hint of any type of foreign crime. I returned to the city many times until the late 80s when the destruction  of the sea was evident and the nature of the city changing.  Massive numbers of tourists started invading the city and little was done to enhance the infrastructure. I simply stopped coming to Pattaya.

 

Fast forward to present- a few months ago I decided to take a drive to Pattaya and witnessed the absolute destruction of a once beautiful city.  The water has gone from unclean to a filthy bio hazard.  The encroachment on the seaside of Walking Street is visible and a danger to the sea and from what I  Have read possibly illegal.  Pattaya is way overbuilt. It is obvious. There is trash littering main roads which are plainly visible. 

 

In addition, there is the whole bar scene which appears to be uncontrolled by the authorities and sprouting wherever and whenever money can be made and paid . There are obvious foreign influences in some of the bar areas and restaurants not to mention uncontrolled taxis and songthaews; Jet Skis that are a hazard as well as foreign gangs that are looking for a fight. Throw in some light fingered lady-boys; motorcyclists that snatch necklaces and the visitors that are unable to control their alcohol and you have chaos.

 

On the positive side there are some great restaurants; good shopping and malls which attract families and weekend shoppers from other areas of Thailand but the negatives far outweigh the positives and if Pattaya is ever to return to even half of its pristine original status- the place has to be cleaned up not only to include the water but everything else that causes tourists to give it a miss.

Edited August 18, 2017 by Thaidream

[johng]

Soi wat boon plant

[NanLaew]

5 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

More to the point, why wasn't it identified 5 years ago that the system will soon reach it's capacity and something already done to massively increase the system capacity before it can become as issue.

 

Again. Gross lack of planning, and some heads should role. 

 

There are plenty of very capable people in this country but 99% of them will never get to positions of valuable analysis, anticipation of future needs, policy development, innovations etc., because they can't afford the promotion 'fees'.

 

Five years ago, the previous city administration were still pondering what to buy themselves with the 10 million baht/year they pocketed from the maintenance contract they canceled 2 years earlier.