Exchange Motor with Used Car Dealer

[Rc2702]

We purchased a Vios 15 months ago which is 7-8 years old and we have never had any issues (BIL once over inflated tyres) it's a nice car and in excellent order. We purchased from a dealer, we visited over 30 in our area and this guy just ticked all the boxes and even when we did have a small issue at the beginning him and his staff were all over it. 

 

I'm wondering if he would be up for an exchange + Cash for a newer car?

 

It makes sense to me but I'm just checking if anyone has had experience of this type of negotiation?

 

Car sells for around 240k we brought it for 280k im thinking if he can accept this on the basis of 180k then we will spend an additional 180k if he has something appealing.

 

Surely he will be up for it? New inventory + Sale (cash) + 2nd sake with same customer inside 18 months

 

Surely he will be game?

 

 

[giddyup]

I bought a 3 year old Jazz from a local dealer, after owning it for about 12 months I decided a pickup was more suited to road conditions. I took it back to the dealer and did a straight swap for an Isuzu of about 50,000 baht of lesser value. As long as the dealer sees that there's money in it for him don't see why he wouldn't do a deal. Yes, I did money on the deal, but I ended up with what I needed.

[ALFREDO]

On 19/8/2560 at 6:59 AM, Rc2702 said:

We purchased a Vios 15 months ago which is 7-8 years old and we have never had any issues

You have a car, live in Khon Kaen and you go for a Visa to Penang lol 

 

 - oh, anytime I drive to Nong Khai from Khon Kaen park it there at the border and make my Visa in Vientiane - if the owner of the car is with you, you can even drive to Lao yourself, but some paperwork is needed. 

[Rc2702]

Just now, ALFREDO said:

You have a car, live in Khon Kaen and you go for a Visa to Penang lol 

 

 - oh, anytime I drive to Nong Khai from Khon Kaen park it there at the border and make my Visa in Vientiane - if the owner of the car is with you, you can even drive to Lao yourself, but some paperwork is needed. 

Car is my mrs's her insurance clearly states she is only insured driver on car. My Mrs has 6000km (1.3 year) of experience I have 200k (10 years) so for experience purposes she is the driver and I ride a motorcycle. If rules change or circumstances in the future I need to be sure she can stand on her own two feet. Hence her driving experience is crucial to get around. I live by rules I'm sorry.

[ALFREDO]

Make a better insurance - lol 

never heard from such a restricted thing here in TH, anyway how you know that - you can read Thai?

 

I have here driven since 1990 and since 1998 a lot,

not one car or motorbike was in my name - but in names of others- renting vehicles out people,

my Chayaphum Gf, my Udon Thani Gf later - both cannot drive and have no license

and now my Udon Gf's brother.

Had some heavy accidents - no problems. 

 

Change the insurance if necessary - just made one for 7.000 Baht for small car, includes some more then normal,

but is not 1st class, that would be 13.000+ Baht.

 

AND - drive yourself everywhere, first to your Nong Khai-Vientiane Non Immigrant -O- Visa - I drive no Meter with anybody else - if I can avoid it. Only trust in myself!

 

 

 

[ALFREDO]

44 minutes ago, Rc2702 said:

Car is my mrs's her insurance clearly states she is only insured driver on car.

 

My Mrs has 6000km (1.3 year) of experience I have 200k (10 years) so for experience purposes she is the driver and I ride a motorcycle.

If rules change or circumstances in the future I need to be sure she can stand on her own two feet.

Hence her driving experience is crucial to get around. I live by rules I'm sorry.

Make a better insurance - lol 

never heard from such a restricted thing here in TH, anyway how you know that - you can read Thai?

 

I have here driven since 1990 and since 1998 a lot,

not one car or motorbike was in my name - but in names of others- renting vehicles out people,

my Chayaphum Gf, my Udon Thani Gf later - both cannot drive and have no license

and now my Udon Gf's brother.

Had some heavy accidents - no problems. 

 

Change the insurance if necessary - just made one for 7.000 Baht for small car, includes some more then normal,

but is not 1st class, that would be 13.000+ Baht.

 

AND - drive yourself everywhere, first to your Nong Khai-Vientiane Non Immigrant -O- Visa - I drive no Meter with anybody else - if I can avoid it. Only trust in myself!

[Rc2702]

Just now, ALFREDO said:

Make a better insurance - lol 

never heard from such a restricted thing here in TH, anyway how you know that - you can read Thai?

 

I have here driven since 1990 and since 1998 a lot,

not one car or motorbike was in my name - but in names of others- renting vehicles out people,

my Chayaphum Gf, my Udon Thani Gf later - both cannot drive and have no license

and now my Udon Gf's brother.

Had some heavy accidents - no problems. 

 

Change the insurance if necessary - just made one for 7.000 Baht for small car, includes some more then normal,

but is not 1st class, that would be 13.000+ Baht.

 

AND - drive yourself everywhere, first to your Nong Khai-Vientiane Non Immigrant -O- Visa - I drive no Meter with anybody else - if I can avoid it. Only trust in myself!

No thanks car was brought for her and I want her to have the road experience and the insurance is first class. I see no need to drive a car she is perfectly capable of driving and I was there when we got the insurance and it is a great reason not to let anyone else behind the wheel and given I do not trust anyone else it makes perfect sense to me to lead by example and show others I too follow the rule that only she drives the car. Takes the heat off her back so to speak. Families! 

 

I need to trust the woman who raises our child I'm sorry.

[ALFREDO]

25 minutes ago, Rc2702 said:

No thanks car was brought for her and I want her to have the road experience and the insurance is first class. I see no need to drive a car she is perfectly capable of driving and I was there when we got the insurance and it is a great reason not to let anyone else behind the wheel and given I do not trust anyone else it makes perfect sense to me to lead by example and show others I too follow the rule that only she drives the car. Takes the heat off her back so to speak. Families! 

 

I need to trust the woman who raises our child I'm sorry.

You not easy - and not easy going - lol - can you please write, how young you are - thank you  

[Rc2702]

Just now, ALFREDO said:

You not easy - and not easy going - lol - can you please write, how young you are - thank you  

Why will that explain a lot?

 

Easy is just that. Thanks anyway has been entertaining.

 

 

[ALFREDO]

1 minute ago, Rc2702 said:

Why will that explain a lot?

Yes, your - strict -attitude-  can come from being to young - I think you are young - or from being to old. 

 

Oh, we can still have contact - I am not far also from you and that you not write your age - shows also "special" attitude.

5555  

[Rc2702]

Just now, ALFREDO said:

Yes, your - strict -attitude-  can come from being to young - I think you are young - or from being to old. 

 

Oh, we can still have contact - I am not far also from you and that you not write your age - shows also "special" attitude.

5555  

Sorry Pal I guess I am a bit strict. I always wear a helmet when riding too.

 

I did not see the value of answering your question and you kind of proved that by saying 

 

"come from being to young - I think you are young - or from being to old. "

 

If you really must know perhaps you can keep reading my posts but after you know I'm sure you will ask yourself. Was it worth the effort.

 

Just watching the football. Tight game between france and nl. Which one do you support or are you 8-0 up?

 

 

 

 

[ALFREDO]

6 minutes ago, Rc2702 said:

Sorry Pal I guess I am a bit strict. I always wear a helmet when riding too.

 

I did not see the value of answering your question and you kind of proved that by saying 

 

"come from being to young - I think you are young - or from being to old. "

 

If you really must know perhaps you can keep reading my posts but after you know I'm sure you will ask yourself. Was it worth the effort.

 

Just watching the football. Tight game between france and nl. Which one do you support or are you 8-0 up?

 

I wear helmet too, special with my Honda CB650F Thai production motor bike 

 

When in a conversation, polite friendly and harmless questions are not answered, it is water on fire. 

 

I not into Football - sorry, I like Moto Gp and UFC fighting 

[Rc2702]

Just now, ALFREDO said:

I wear helmet too, special with my Honda CB650F Thai production motor bike 

 

When in a conversation, polite friendly and harmless questions are not answered, it is water on fire. 

 

I not into Football - sorry, I like Moto Gp and UFC fighting 

I think your mistaken. This is not that. This is a conference as many people are privy to this discussion and there is a dark art which entails bleeding info out of people. I have been more than willing to provide information when it matters but I see no value in that question and if you scroll through my responses you will note you have been treated with respect at all times and I have not made one assumption about you other than perhaps you are;

 

FR/NL/BE and you liked football, I note I'm wrong on the football and I take no offence from you not understanding or not wanting to answer my indirect question.

 

 

Football was predictable tonight thanks for the company.

 

 

 

[NanLaew]

12 hours ago, ALFREDO said:

Make a better insurance - lol 

never heard from such a restricted thing here in TH, anyway how you know that - you can read Thai?

 

I have here driven since 1990 and since 1998 a lot,

not one car or motorbike was in my name - but in names of others- renting vehicles out people,

my Chayaphum Gf, my Udon Thani Gf later - both cannot drive and have no license

and now my Udon Gf's brother.

Had some heavy accidents - no problems. 

 

Change the insurance if necessary - just made one for 7.000 Baht for small car, includes some more then normal,

but is not 1st class, that would be 13.000+ Baht.

 

AND - drive yourself everywhere, first to your Nong Khai-Vientiane Non Immigrant -O- Visa - I drive no Meter with anybody else - if I can avoid it. Only trust in myself!

The "named driver only" is a very common car insurance option in LOS. Saves money too.

 

Been here a while then?

[madmax2]

The topic is exchanging a vehicle at a dealership, which should not be a problem as someone else mentioned, just go and ask them if they will do it for you 

[giddyup]

3 hours ago, madmax2 said:

The topic is exchanging a vehicle at a dealership, which should not be a problem as someone else mentioned, just go and ask them if they will do it for you 

Yes, how did it get into a topic re insurance?

[Rc2702]

Just now, giddyup said:

Yes, how did it get into a topic re insurance?

I went to the dealer but the owner was not about and nothing really took our fancy. I'll be going again soon to check his stock tomorrow.

 

The guy who knows a lot about insurance questioned why I prefer Mrs to drive the car. I explained insurance in her name only and she needs mileage to clock up experience. 

[ALFREDO]

On 01/09/2017 at 2:54 PM, NanLaew said:

The "named driver only" is a very common car insurance option in LOS. Saves money too.

 

Been here a while then?

I would never except something limiting my possibilities - its my way or the high way for the Insurance Company - and I still got good offers. Just be firm! ?

[Sophon]

On 9/3/2017 at 10:26 AM, ALFREDO said:

I would never except something limiting my possibilities - its my way or the high way for the Insurance Company - and I still got good offers. Just be firm! ?

Having named drivers is not about limiting possibilities but rather about saving money on your insurance premium. Named drivers is not something the insurance company is going to push on you, it's something you have to ask for yourself. Nobody other than me or my girlfriend is ever going to drive our car, and by having named drivers I save almost 25% on the insurance premium for exactly the same coverage. Why would I want to pay extra for something that I am never going to need?

 

And just add; should something totally unexpected happen and I needed someone else to drive the car, the insurance would still cover any accident. All that would happen is that I would have to pay the first 5,000 Baht of the damage myself.

 

Sophon

[ALFREDO]

4 hours ago, Sophon said:

Having named drivers is not about limiting possibilities but rather about saving money on your insurance premium. Why would I want to pay extra for something that I am never going to need?

Not only think from yourself lol 

 

I wrote - "I would never except something limiting my possibilities"

 

And my circumstances are different - I live with a Thai Family - that is a from the family used car too

and so it has more people who drive and drove that car.

 

So, please, how much, do you pay for 1st class insurance and how much costs your car new?

Then I know if it is a good deal. - Having only named drivers. 

 

[Rc2702]

Just now, ALFREDO said:

Not only think from yourself lol 

 

I wrote - "I would never except something limiting my possibilities"

 

And my circumstances are different - I live with a Thai Family - that is a from the family used car too

and so it has more people who drive and drove that car.

 

So, please, how much, do you pay for 1st class insurance and how much costs your car new?

Then I know if it is a good deal. - Having only named drivers. 

 

I don't think you understand the situation. I want her to gain as much experience as possibble and be reliant on herself being the only named driver. The cost of the car and the insurance is irrelevent. 

[ALFREDO]

1 minute ago, Rc2702 said:

I don't think you understand the situation. I want her to gain as much experience as possibble and be reliant on herself being the only named driver. The cost of the car and the insurance is irrelevent. 

I responded to -Sophon- post sorry.  - See above. 

[Rc2702]

Just now, ALFREDO said:

I responded to -Sophon- post sorry.  - See above. 

Right you are. My apologies. 

[giddyup]

It seems the OP was never interested in responses to his original question, but prefers to talk about insurance. Strange.

[Sophon]

1 hour ago, ALFREDO said:

Not only think from yourself lol 

 

I wrote - "I would never except something limiting my possibilities"

 

And my circumstances are different - I live with a Thai Family - that is a from the family used car too

and so it has more people who drive and drove that car.

 

So, please, how much, do you pay for 1st class insurance and how much costs your car new?

Then I know if it is a good deal. - Having only named drivers. 

 

What I personally pay is irrelevant, the cost will vary for different people depending on coverage amount, no claims bonus etc. What is relevant is that whatever insurance premium I have negotiated, I will save about 25% extra by having named drivers. All Thai insurance companies (that I know of) have similar discounts for having named drivers, so you can choose whatever company you want. Personally I chose AXA because they supply free break-down service.

 

Of course, if you are in a situation where many different people will be driving your car, then named drivers may not be for you. Then again, since the insurance still covers you even when an unnamed driver have an accident just with an excess of 5,000 Baht, it could still be advantageous to have named drivers depending on how many claims you have.

 

Sophon

 

 

[ALFREDO]

2 hours ago, Sophon said:

What I personally pay is irrelevant, the cost will vary for different people depending on coverage amount, no claims bonus etc. What is relevant is that whatever insurance premium I have negotiated, I will save about 25% extra by having named drivers. All Thai insurance companies (that I know of) have similar discounts for having named drivers, so you can choose whatever company you want. Personally I chose AXA because they supply free break-down service.

 

Of course, if you are in a situation where many different people will be driving your car, then named drivers may not be for you. Then again, since the insurance still covers you even when an unnamed driver have an accident just with an excess of 5,000 Baht, it could still be advantageous to have named drivers depending on how many claims you have.

 

Sophon

 

 

 

Ok - you shy to write numbers. 

[Rc2702]

1 hour ago, giddyup said:

It seems the OP was never interested in responses to his original question, but prefers to talk about insurance. Strange.

I did respond to the original responses. I visited two days ago to my trusted dealer but I'm unsure if hos stock is of intereSt

 

1 motor looked decent a 2014 Toyota vios g. 50k on clock. Nice interior. Looks like it belonged to tv production company as it has a press sticker on it. I think his price is about 10% off market rate. Wants 495 for it.

 

I think they are about 789k brand new.

 

Happy to be proved wrong on all counts. 

 

 

 

 

[Rc2702]

1 hour ago, Sophon said:

What I personally pay is irrelevant, the cost will vary for different people depending on coverage amount, no claims bonus etc. What is relevant is that whatever insurance premium I have negotiated, I will save about 25% extra by having named drivers. All Thai insurance companies (that I know of) have similar discounts for having named drivers, so you can choose whatever company you want. Personally I chose AXA because they supply free break-down service.

 

Of course, if you are in a situation where many different people will be driving your car, then named drivers may not be for you. Then again, since the insurance still covers you even when an unnamed driver have an accident just with an excess of 5,000 Baht, it could still be advantageous to have named drivers depending on how many claims you have.

 

Sophon

 

 

That's good info on AXA thanks.

 

That breakdown coverage is nationwide in thailand?