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So the other night I was in a beer bar that I occasionally frequent and it was close to closing time. I decided that I would end the night with buying shots for the staff..  (5 folks).

 

The bartender lined up the shot glasses and started pouring. Perhaps it was the slight buzz I had but honestly those neatly lined up shot glasses looked awesome with the neon lights from the bar shinning through them as the drinks were being poured.

 

I took out my phone and snapped a pic.. I then went to post it on Facebook and one of the girls said I should not do that. I asked why. The reply I got from her, and others (all Thais), said that the police monitor Facebook late at night and when they see pics of alcohol they will then find out who took the pics and where the pics were originated from, then they will go and get that person for perhaps being intoxicated or driving under the influence.

 

I call BS to this as many Thais tend to believe some of the most ridiculous things but I thought I would post this to see if anyone has ever heard or experienced such a thing.

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2 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Its not but now they know it was you taking the pics of shots after hours :partytime2:

After hours?  Hmmmmmm

 

"it was close to closing time"

 

....and now I find out it's not only illegal to post on TV but also to take pics of drinks..... you are very entertaining, go back to sleep.

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Of course the Police of every country monitor Facebook .That's why i don't have my real name on or real date of birth .Its well past 1984.Not that i have anything to hide yet at least .

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I'd suspect major Law Enforcement agencies in ALL countries monitor social media sources. And those with the resources to do so will monitor e-mail as well. We've already seen dozens of cases of people being arrested for the Thai crime of   'lese majeste' for comments made in Facebook. It's no surprise. Computers that can detect key words or phrases make easy work of a monumental task. Once those key phrases are detected, a human monitor can investigate further to see if a crime is being committed. It would still require a massive undertaking of manpower.

 

But for small local police units to be monitoring Facebook, Twitter, SnapChat, or several other venues looking for drunk drivers? No... I doubt that very much. Starting with the fact that it's the rare police officer indeed who can speak other languages well enough to understand what is going on, or interpret photos properly to trace down 'who, what, and where' from them, especially considering that when you post an image file, it does not ALSO post the EXIF file, that separate information file created telling the time the image was taken.

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23 minutes ago, dingdongrb said:

After hours?  Hmmmmmm

 

"it was close to closing time"

 

....and now I find out it's not only illegal to post on TV but also to take pics of drinks..... you are very entertaining, go back to sleep.

 

Why let the truth get in the way of a good story :stoner:

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1 hour ago, dingdongrb said:

After hours?  Hmmmmmm

 

"it was close to closing time"

 

....and now I find out it's not only illegal to post on TV but also to take pics of drinks..... you are very entertaining, go back to sleep.

Actually, recently several Thais have been arrested and charged with "promoting the consumption of alcohol" for posting photos of themselves and others drinking on Facebook and other social media (no, I'm not joking about this). So far, I haven't heard of any foreigners being charged in this way, but it isn't beyond the realm of possibility, I suppose...

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56 minutes ago, dingdongrb said:

After hours?  Hmmmmmm

 

"it was close to closing time"

 

....and now I find out it's not only illegal to post on TV but also to take pics of drinks..... you are very entertaining, go back to sleep.

Impossible, because unless the exact time and date were printed on the photos the police would have no idea when those photos were taken. Also on facebook the exif data is deleted from the photos, so the police have no means of checking where and when those photos were taken. Another point it`s not illegal to be intoxicated and how would the police know that person was going to drive home after leaving the bar?

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Police are cracking down on celebrities and social media influencers promoting (taking photos and videos) of alcohol in bars and restaurants. They post these to thier 500k instagram followers and dont declare that they were paid to visit the bar and restaurant and promote the drink. Fans see it on their smartphones and just think the celeb is out having a great time with bottle of vodka. This is what the police are looking for. 

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"The article explained that alcohol advertising is illegal in the country and that even posting a photo to your own account showing alcohol brands could be construed as advertising or endorsing."

 

"The law being referenced is the 2008 Alcoholic Beverage Control Act, which states that photos displaying branded booze products are not legal."

 

https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/thailands-weird-crackdown-boozy-photos-makes-global-headlines/

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9 hours ago, Chou Anou said:

Actually, recently several Thais have been arrested and charged with "promoting the consumption of alcohol" for posting photos of themselves and others drinking on Facebook and other social media (no, I'm not joking about this). So far, I haven't heard of any foreigners being charged in this way, but it isn't beyond the realm of possibility, I suppose...

and several have been arrested & charged w/lese majeste just for liking fb posts concerning monarchy,

in particular posts from Andrew MacGregor Marshall

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11 hours ago, anto said:

Of course the Police of every country monitor Facebook .That's why i don't have my real name on or real date of birth .Its well past 1984.Not that i have anything to hide yet at least .

I will tell you that in my training, we were taught how to use FB to investigate members. The most improperly and overused phrase "I have nothing to hide" is so not true. Depending on how many hops an investigation goes, you can get dragged into an investigation because of a friend of a friend of a friend on FB. Plus, everyone uses passwords, keys, security systems in their houses and cars, etc. So, you DO have something to protect. A lot, in fact.

 

"One of the first investors of Facebook was In-Q-Tel, the VC arm of the CIA. Let that sink in for a moment. For me the hardest thing about this is getting over the shock that the CIA has a VC investment division."

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Bargirls can be a wealth of information.

 

Why just last week, at a bar on Loi Kroh, a bar girl warned me that Bitcoin would crash because of the tension on the Korean Peninsula.

 

Fortunately she told me and I sold out my Bitcoin holdings.

 

Otherwise I would have lost millions.

 

I bought her a shot for her valuable advice.

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All social media across the Globe is monitored.  Guess how many major crimes, dangerous criminals and potential terrorist activities are intercepted and dealt with.  Thailand is no exception and no-one is exempt.  In Farang Land when you are photographed speeding you are not immediately apprehended.  Once they have the photographic evidence they can proceed at their leisure.  Failing to comprehend these simple facts is why many people end up in trouble.

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Perhaps the real question is 'who is "they?' 

 

I doubt local police a monitoring anything. By the same token, I'm sure that in Bangkok there is a room filled with computers being checked for key words being spoken or pictures being shown. Searching for political dissidents, drug or human trafficking, etc. I doubt they are looking for your friendly Tuk-tuk driver raising a glass with his friends.

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On ‎8‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 7:51 AM, FolkGuitar said:

I'd suspect major Law Enforcement agencies in ALL countries monitor social media sources. And those with the resources to do so will monitor e-mail as well. We've already seen dozens of cases of people being arrested for the Thai crime of   'lese majeste' for comments made in Facebook. It's no surprise. Computers that can detect key words or phrases make easy work of a monumental task. Once those key phrases are detected, a human monitor can investigate further to see if a crime is being committed. It would still require a massive undertaking of manpower.

 

But for small local police units to be monitoring Facebook, Twitter, SnapChat, or several other venues looking for drunk drivers? No... I doubt that very much. Starting with the fact that it's the rare police officer indeed who can speak other languages well enough to understand what is going on, or interpret photos properly to trace down 'who, what, and where' from them, especially considering that when you post an image file, it does not ALSO post the EXIF file, that separate information file created telling the time the image was taken.

Not just the cops. People are monitoring everyone to see trends re voting, advertising etc.

What I don't like is that my computer program now monitors everything I put on it- no privacy of any sort. I'm sure that you all have noticed that after looking at a certain content, ads tailored to that subject appear on the computer. Ie, if I google information about a place I'm interested in, ads for hotels in that place pop up even days after.

Even U tube monitors the music I like and puts similar music on the list without my requesting it.

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26 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

Perhaps the real question is 'who is "they?' 

 

I doubt local police a monitoring anything. By the same token, I'm sure that in Bangkok there is a room filled with computers being checked for key words being spoken or pictures being shown. Searching for political dissidents, drug or human trafficking, etc. I doubt they are looking for your friendly Tuk-tuk driver raising a glass with his friends.

Hmmmm. Never underestimate the desire of bureaucrats to stuff up people's lives. They have to justify their cushy, well paid jobs somehow.

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19 hours ago, Global Guy said:

I will tell you that in my training, we were taught how to use FB to investigate members. The most improperly and overused phrase "I have nothing to hide" is so not true. Depending on how many hops an investigation goes, you can get dragged into an investigation because of a friend of a friend of a friend on FB. Plus, everyone uses passwords, keys, security systems in their houses and cars, etc. So, you DO have something to protect. A lot, in fact.

 

"One of the first investors of Facebook was In-Q-Tel, the VC arm of the CIA. Let that sink in for a moment. For me the hardest thing about this is getting over the shock that the CIA has a VC investment division."

Unless they spent their entire life inside their bedroom, EVERYONE has something to hide. Most are not criminals, but all have some embarrassing secret they don't want others to know.

I'm sure that someone has a profile on me regarding my social activities, sexual preferences, politics, education etc etc etc gained from whatever I have put on line. No doubt it is sold on to advertisers etc.

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unless they spent their entire life inside their bedroom, EVERYONE has something to hide. Most are not criminals, but all have some embarrassing secret they don't want others to know.

I'm sure that someone has a profile on me regarding my social activities, sexual preferences, politics, education etc etc etc gained from whatever I have put on line. No doubt it is sold on to advertisers etc.

Even then looking at Porn ,and which sites ,could be of interest to someone trying to undermine you .

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Hmmmm. Never underestimate the desire of bureaucrats to stuff up people's lives. They have to justify their cushy, well paid jobs somehow.

 

Frankly, I don't underestimate their 'desires,' only their abilities.  I'm sure that they will give it their best shot, though! 

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