webfact Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Prayuth’s Nephew Quits Army A Year After Nepotism Scandal By Sasiwan Mokkhasen, Staff Reporter Patipat Chan-ocha attends a football match in the United Kingdom in a photo posted online May 22. Photo: Patipat Chan-ocha / Facebook BANGKOK — A former regional army commander and younger brother to the junta leader announced Sunday that his son has already resigned from the military about a year after his appointment invited accusations of nepotism. Patipat “Pong” Chan-ocha, the nephew of Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha who was given a post as a second lieutenant in the army by his father in April 2016 quit his post some time back to pursue a degree in Communication Arts in England, his father told the media. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2017/08/21/prayuths-nephew-quits-army-year-nepotism-scandal/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2017-08-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Slammed for nepotism, Preecha responded by saying that it was common practice. “There are so many people in the army doing it, not only my son,” he said at the time. So- that makes it OK then does it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Can an military officer just quit? The only way to quit is a discharge or psychologically unable to perform military duties. This is making a mockery of the RTA when serviceman can join and then just quit like working in a 7-11 outlet. Why he got this privilege treatment? Rhetorical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I thought officers were given a commission meaning they had to serve a certain amount of time, resigning should not be possible especially after the way he was given his rank, then again he does have family in top positions to do as they please and screw the regulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 So, how will this affect the Nepotism charge that surely was laid against Preecha Chan-Ocha for appointing his own son to an Army position? WHAT!? Are you saying that there was no charge? No way!!!! I don't know whether to laugh or cry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopus1969 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 a degree in Communication Arts what a waste of time - worthless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, canopus1969 said: a degree in Communication Arts what a waste of time - worthless Not really - just means media manipulation ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, seajae said: I thought officers were given a commission meaning they had to serve a certain amount of time, resigning should not be possible especially after the way he was given his rank, then again he does have family in top positions to do as they please and screw the regulations If the study in any way might benefit the army or the country, it is quite possible in many countries to leave the army and become a reserve. Also, in many countries, including western countries, family members or friends get a favourable treatment, more or less invisible of course. Edited August 21, 2017 by hansnl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Psimbo said: Slammed for nepotism, Preecha responded by saying that it was common practice. “There are so many people in the army doing it, not only my son,” he said at the time. So- that makes it OK then does it!! Inside the mind of a spoilt man-child. Scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark131v Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Why all the shock and consternation? Surely everyone realises that rules and laws do not apply to these people they can do as they please as is evidenced on a very regular basis..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I like the way it states that he was "given" the rank of 2nd Lt. Do they not have to go to a military college here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I bet the Army will miss him,such an important cog in the system. regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Can collect enough brown envelopes to retire employed with the military for a year. Especially when related to the big buwana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, canopus1969 said: a degree in Communication Arts what a waste of time - worthless You are wrong. It leads to well paid jobs in media and multi media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, seajae said: resigning should not be possible especially after the way he was given his rank, Huh? If his uncle gave him the commission, then of course he can give it back. After all, it's just like the regular mode of swapping jobs in LOS where they just don't turn up at the old job and start the new one, leaving the former employer to handle the fallout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Psimbo said: Slammed for nepotism, Preecha responded by saying that it was common practice. “There are so many people in the army doing it, not only my son,” he said at the time. So- that makes it OK then does it!! In "normal" armies, it is said that a chief must lead by example. This saying has not reached Thailand, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Good that he quit... bad excuse of his father. Nepotism is really a big problem here in Thailand. Its ok when it happens in normal privately owned companies (they only destroy themselves) However if its with public money its a bad thing. Was there not something similar with (not sure it it was the army or previous government) That were allowed to hire specialists / assistants and a lot of family members were requited. Big example is of course Thaksin who won't let anyone but a family member run his political party. The problem of nepotism is so ingrained that people consider it normal. Maybe its just us that see things wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, webfact said: Patipat “Pong” Chan-ocha ... quit his post some time back to pursue a degree in Communication Arts in England ... Then back to employment with the junta. They could do with someone who can actually communicate articulately. Perhaps he's also been taking tea with Scarlet 'Red Bull' Pimpernel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 18 minutes ago, robblok said: Good that he quit... bad excuse of his father. Nepotism is really a big problem here in Thailand. Its ok when it happens in normal privately owned companies (they only destroy themselves) However if its with public money its a bad thing. Was there not something similar with (not sure it it was the army or previous government) That were allowed to hire specialists / assistants and a lot of family members were requited. Big example is of course Thaksin who won't let anyone but a family member run his political party. The problem of nepotism is so ingrained that people consider it normal. Maybe its just us that see things wrong. No its an absolute rubbish example on pretty much every level. If people dont want someone from his family to run the party they wont vote for them, if they do or dont mind they will. No one is hiding the fact that PTP is Shinawatra party, you even say its his political party, why can he not choose who runs it? And of course when not in power and campaigning they are not using public funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Just now, smutcakes said: No its an absolute rubbish example on pretty much every level. If people dont want someone from his family to run the party they wont vote for them, if they do or dont mind they will. No one is hiding the fact that PTP is Shinawatra party, you even say its his political party, why can he not choose who runs it? And of course when not in power and campaigning they are not using public funds. I did not know PM's were voted in I thought the party(Thaksin) decided who became a PM ? so your saying people voted for YL to become PM.. and that whoever Thaksin chooses next will be voted in by the people. Ok.. I guess I learned something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Just now, robblok said: I did not know PM's were voted in I thought the party(Thaksin) decided who became a PM ? so your saying people voted for YL to become PM.. and that whoever Thaksin chooses next will be voted in by the people. Ok.. I guess I learned something new. If the people dont want a Shinawatra, its quite simple they dont need to vote PTP, everyone knows its their party. Its a crap example of Nepotism in Thailand and you know it, but your infatuation with Shinawatras continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 good, may be this can highlight to some people the real cost of nepotism;people who can't or won't do their jobs in the favor of those who can and will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Just now, smutcakes said: If the people dont want a Shinawatra, its quite simple they dont need to vote PTP, everyone knows its their party. Its a crap example of Nepotism in Thailand and you know it, but your infatuation with Shinawatras continues. Its not a crap example.. its Nepotism no way around it. People never voted YL to be PM she was appointed by her brother.. that is nepotism... especially if you know that it always has to be a Shin who is PM. I guess you don't understand the definition of nepotism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Just now, robblok said: Its not a crap example.. its Nepotism no way around it. People never voted YL to be PM she was appointed by her brother.. that is nepotism... especially if you know that it always has to be a Shin who is PM. I guess you don't understand the definition of nepotism. Nepotism is appointing or favoring friends or relatives to positions of power. So every single appointment by every Government is nepotism, yet you for some reason pick the BIG example which apparently is Thaksin...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, smutcakes said: Nepotism is appointing or favoring friends or relatives to positions of power. So every single appointment by every Government is nepotism, yet you for some reason pick the BIG example which apparently is Thaksin...... Yes, and it is a big example picking someone for the highest post (politically) of the country is a BIG thing. Its also a real famous thing everyone knows about it so its a good example. So now you admit its nepotism and are saying that all governments are doing it.. not something i disagree with (the statement not the practice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2nd Lieutenant, so not even a general, hardly worth the effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Tong Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 His uncle is the big man and he was only made a second lieutenant? Has the meaning of nepotism been so devalued? No wonder he quit. He was probable embarrassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choff56 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, mark131v said: Why all the shock and consternation? Surely everyone realises that rules and laws do not apply to these people they can do as they please as is evidenced on a very regular basis..... It's why I changed my name to Farang Na Ayudhya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Where did he get the money I wonder and do we have to have this trash in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomta Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Give the man a break. He's part of the rich and honorable tradition that until 10 years ago prevailed in the British and many other armies. Buying your commission. Keeps the hoi polloi out of the coup-making profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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