Once Bitten Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Well at yet another weekly meeting of our local expats gang and again some thought provoking subjects came up in the conversation. One guy talked about how he had just managed to sort out a visa for his pregnant Thai wife and they were now moving to his home country to live after being in Thailand for around seven years . One of several reasons why the guy had decided to return home was to do with providing their soon to be born child with a better education and future . In his words , to get away from all the madness that Thailand had become. We all wished him and his wife the best of luck and promised to stay in touch to see how the move was working out. Then several others commented on how in no way would they ever want to return back to their home country to live . So I just said why not , whats wrong with your home country. Out of the assembled gang I would say over half of them were in the same frame of mind , no way would they ever want to permanently return home , yes they would return for medical treatment and if there was a family bereavement or illness , but to go back home to live . No way . Then I was asked if I would ever consider returning home to Dear Old Blighty . My answer was - Yes I would . Personally my story is a well trodden path to my present situation , as a divorced man I came to Thailand on holiday after hearing about all the delights on offer . I fell in love , married and moved to Thailand permanently, but and here's what seems a little the different . When I left my home country to live in Thailand on a permanent basis with my Thai wife , I left behind a life that I would describe as pretty good . I was happy with most things about my home country , yes I did moan about rising costs and stuff like red tape , rules and regulations . But on the whole I was contented with my life style and what my home country had to offer. My Thai wife has parents who are both infirm so the prospect of us moving to my home country and her leaving them behind is the reason we have not by now moved . So I'm now wondering are there many other forum members that live in Thailand who dislike their home country so much that they would never ever consider returning back home to live , even if they were in a position to do so , and if so what don't you like about your home country . On the other hand are there other forum members that like me that reside in Thailand , but still feel that their home country is a great place to live . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 My home country is very cold in winter, property prices are exorbitant and I can earn more working here. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Yup, way too cold, & in general British people can be quite unfriendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strikingsunset Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 i'm from England - 62, in decent shape, i can't imagine where i would start to find a woman ( forget girl) in my home city of Derby,which is a dreadful place, maybe knocking on the doors of a few " old people's homes " would be the best way to start - yes it really is that bad....Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Dick Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 California is wonderful but too expensive for me to retire there with my meager savings. Not warm enough either. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicowoodduck Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I would have loved to be the fly on the wall with a meeting of some expats.....just some old farts bitching and moaning......lol...??? I probably would have fit right in....like the flavor of the day....? My my main complaint...at the moment....LOS is just too damn far away....7,526 Miles as the crow flies....and the 13+ flying time to the West Coast gets harder by the year....and than you have to do a rebound back this way.....?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 The weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Must confess that if I had not lost everything via a messy divorce and a medical prob made worse by the UK climate l would still be there. ...But not in London... I would be in Cornwall or the Isle of Wight.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I am from the UK and have a property in central London. I loved London as a city whilst i was living and working there but i cannot easily imagine a retired life there. Temperatures may not suggest London is that cold but so many wet and windy days when it is really uncomfortable to be outside. My future may or may not be in SE Asia but i lwould prefer to be in some warmer climates in Southern Europe than UK. South America also beckons to be explored more. Everyone is different but Cornwall or Isle of Wight in an English winter would have absolutely no appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Once Bitten said: So I'm now wondering are there many other forum members that live in Thailand who dislike their home country so much that they would never ever consider returning back home to live , even if they were in a position to do so , and if so what don't you like about your home country . I don't think (in my case anyway) it has anything to do with disliking my home country, or even liking Thailand more. Things happen during everyone's life on individual basis that lead to decisions being made that are more complicated than where you actually live. I also think a lot depends on what sort of life you have lead as well and what that life consisted off. Also where you are in your expected life cycle.................. In my case I came to Thailand for a 6 month kick-back holiday after a 23 year commitment to the armed forces of the UK. Twenty years later and I am still here; party time played out, married for the last 18 years, full time employment, own house, own car, etc, etc. In fact, this is the longest period of my life that I have been in the same place since (and including) leaving 'home' at the age of 15. One of my observations though over this time has been that some people are more concerned about geographical placement than getting on with their lives where they want to live. Don't believe in thinking of the past, but more living in the now. Edited November 14, 2017 by chrisinth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 6 hours ago, Once Bitten said: whats wrong with your home country. IMO UK went to the dogs years ago, for me being retired from my point of view UK is expensive the weather rubbish, no good for retirees and now immigrant dustbin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 A post leading to a personal blog page contianing a fund raising link has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 The USA has got problems--like everywhere else--but certain parts are fine to live. I do visit quite often as I still have family there. But every time I do, I can't wait to get back to Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynn Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 A few people I know would love to return to the UK, but a small room with bars on the windows is not very appealing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh2121 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Theresa May, BoJo, Gove, Corbyn Fartage, et al, Brexit, EU. Trump and Clinton in US. Merkel in Germany, Manny McCron in France. Go where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeGB Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 In 14 years England has changed for the worst. Now it's so Politically Correct that I would get arrested for harmless banter. It's too cold and expensive to live in and virtually impossible to get a Visa for my wife of 13 years to even visit yet alone settle in. Best to be an illegal immigrant they get much more rights than me. I even would have to be in England for 6 months before I could get NHI treatment Even though I pay more than £2,000 a year in tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, JusticeGB said: In 14 years England has changed for the worst. Now it's so Politically Correct that I would get arrested for harmless banter. It's too cold and expensive to live in and virtually impossible to get a Visa for my wife of 13 years to even visit yet alone settle in. Best to be an illegal immigrant they get much more rights than me. I even would have to be in England for 6 months before I could get NHI treatment Even though I pay more than £2,000 a year in tax. Oh dear, just when it was all going so nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 In 14 years England has changed for the worst. Now it's so Politically Correct that I would get arrested for harmless banter. It's too cold and expensive to live in and virtually impossible to get a Visa for my wife of 13 years to even visit yet alone settle in. Best to be an illegal immigrant they get much more rights than me. I even would have to be in England for 6 months before I could get NHI treatment Even though I pay more than £2,000 a year in tax. If you meet the financial requirements for a Settlement visa, why is it virtually impossible to get one? What rights do "illegal immigrants" have? Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 There are not many of us Canadians here. It is too cold in the winter for me, I have spent most of my life in warmer climates. A visit to Toronto every four or five years is enough to remind me why I don't live in Canada, it is a long flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeGB Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: If you meet the financial requirements for a Settlement visa, why is it virtually impossible to get one? What rights do "illegal immigrants" have? Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app I meet the financial requirements have you seen the non refundable cost of even applying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Cost of living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 2 hours ago, transam said: Must confess that if I had not lost everything via a messy divorce and a medical prob made worse by the UK climate l would still be there. ...But not in London... I would be in Cornwall or the Isle of Wight.... I work 6 months on the South Coast opposite the IOW and spend 6 months in Thailand. Hope to continue that residency pattern when they put me out to grass. You'd like it there: http://www.solent-renegades.co.uk/members/transamdan-albums-solent-renegades-end-of-seasoin-show-2017-a-picture8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 20 minutes ago, JusticeGB said: In 14 years England has changed for the worst. Now it's so Politically Correct that I would get arrested for harmless banter. It's too cold and expensive to live in and virtually impossible to get a Visa for my wife of 13 years to even visit yet alone settle in. Best to be an illegal immigrant they get much more rights than me. I even would have to be in England for 6 months before I could get NHI treatment Even though I pay more than £2,000 a year in tax. It may have changed for the worst but to say an illegal immigrant has more rights is tosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I meet the financial requirements have you seen the non refundable cost of even applying! It is ridiculously expensive! Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, JusticeGB said: I meet the financial requirements have you seen the non refundable cost of even applying! Why is the fact the cost of application is non-refundable the problem? Or is it the cost of the application? However, neither seem "virtually impossible" when you have the financial requirements. The immigrant rights may be difficult to understand, but they are no doubt covered under different laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nurseynutcase Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I am from the UK - here are the reasons I wouldn't go back- 1. Climate - too piggin' cold and I lived on the south coast 2. Cost of living - here I don't work - in England it would be survive on my pension or go to work to live. 3. Can't smoke in the bars 4. Too much 'political correctness' - it does my head in 5. Too many immigrants both legal and illegal Having said all of that I do still have my house in the UK, so I could go back if I wanted to. at the momnet it's a NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) In the USA, what's "wrong" for me is basically about -- -- lack of public transportation in most of the country -- high cost of housing in any place decent but not horrible -- political and racial divisions -- difficulty of access and/or high cost of health care -- guns, guns, guns -- the current government and president -- floods, tornadoes, earthquakes, and hurricanes. Oh my! -- restaurant prices -- torrents unfriendly zone Edited November 14, 2017 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 So whats wrong with your home country That's it's not next door to Thailand that I could do a quick day or weekend visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 My homecountry is full will blacks arabs muslims and fake refugees. So i feel more at home in Asia. Euro governments especially German Sweden France Netherlands Belgium have destroyed it all. U can have ur mixed society right in ur ..: where the sun don't shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 My homecountry is full will blacks arabs muslims and fake refugees. So i feel more at home in Asia. Euro governments especially German Sweden France Netherlands Belgium have destroyed it all. U can have ur mixed society right in ur ..: where the sun don't shine.This thread is degenerating fast!Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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