New Visa Agency at Promenada Mall

[KiChakayan]

20 hours ago, Genericnic said:

@triffid

 

That is correct. The 6,900 baht fee was inclusive of the extension fee and the 90-day notices.

 

David

 

Well who's complaining then? Cost benefit wise this beat by miles any "Thailand elite" offer. Unless you are under 50 and don't have sweet Thai Lady you are married to.

I'd wish we'd have that sort of service here in Buriram.

[scottiejohn]

20 minutes ago, Mark1066 said:

My feelings exactly (although you seem to have quoted me by mistake)

Oh Dear I am sorry.  I meant to quote the original source from "buddalady" and not your re-quote. 

 

Note to self;  Must be more careful in future, that's twice this week I have made the same mistake!

[evenstevens]

3 hours ago, buddhalady said:

 

 

 

 

 

Whatever your personal feelings about Nancy, she fought for the expat community to the detriment of her own position with the immigration authorities, not a comfortable position to be in and one which the vast majority of posters on this forum wouldn’t have the sheer guts to take on in the first place.

 

 

 

 

yes i agee that nancy fought for her expats.but a very small minority .in my case over many years i have not encountered any problems with the c/mai  immgr  dept services apart from a few small speed bumps that i had to cross..thetefore i never ever had axe to grind with the zoo..her crusade was totally for her handful  of followers but jeperodised  the position of law abiding expats such as myself who make up the majority of expats residing in c/mai.and with no legal juristition position at all .please note no legal juristion. a very nice arvo to all

[Bill97]

yes i agee that nancy fought for her expats.but a very small minority .in my case over many years i have not encountered any problems with the c/mai  immgr  dept services apart from a few small speed bumps that i had to cross..thetefore i never ever had axe to grind with the zoo..her crusade was totally for her handful  of followers but jeperodised  the position of law abiding expats such as myself who make up the majority of expats residing in c/mai.and with no legal juristition position at all .please note no legal juristion. a very nice arvo to all

Short memory eh. You were right at the top with your zoo bashing not that many years ago.


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[evenstevens]

10 minutes ago, Bill97 said:

Short memory eh. You were right at the top with your zoo bashing not that many years ago.


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please be free to do a research on my activity file.and post accordingly my bashing of the zoo.and please do not fear hold you back!!!

[cyberfarang]

2 hours ago, evenstevens said:

yes i agee that nancy fought for her expats.but a very small minority .in my case over many years i have not encountered any problems with the c/mai  immgr  dept services apart from a few small speed bumps that i had to cross..thetefore i never ever had axe to grind with the zoo..her crusade was totally for her handful  of followers but jeperodised  the position of law abiding expats such as myself who make up the majority of expats residing in c/mai.and with no legal juristition position at all .please note no legal juristion. a very nice arvo to all

First she began a crusade against the Promenada immigration department, then she declared war on the G4T agency while at the same time promoting to us the private agencies. I believe this done more harm then good. 

 

Speaking for myself, although I consider Chiang Mai expats have received a rough deal where immigration is concerned, I found the G4T agency fast track system very convenient and so too the new agency that has taken it`s place, whatever it calls it`s self now. 

 

It should be up to every individual which method to use without some self appointed defender claiming to act on our behalf and interfering. 

[buddhalady]

26 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

First she began a crusade against the Promenada immigration department, then she declared war on the G4T agency while at the same time promoting to us the private agencies. I believe this done more harm then good. 

 

Speaking for myself, although I consider Chiang Mai expats have received a rough deal where immigration is concerned, I found the G4T agency fast track system very convenient and so too the new agency that has taken it`s place, whatever it calls it`s self now. 

 

It should be up to every individual which method to use without some self appointed defender claiming to act on our behalf and interfering. 

 

As far as I understand what was going down at imm when Nancy was involved, a number of older expats were very unsure as to their alternatives - and very worried they might make a mistake which would land them in trouble.  Although I don't, even now, consider myself as 'older', I'd have appreciated assistance from a clued-in expat at the time my late husband had immigration problems.

 

I find the lack of anything remotely resembling compassion on this forum nowadays extremely disturbing.

[scottiejohn]

Before people get too emotive lets consider the following;

1. CM Immigration (and many bureaucratic institutions around the world) has been call the Zoo, and many other things, prior to the year 2000.

2. People must be left be free to spend their time and money as they wish. You can walk, cycle, motor cycle, bus, uber, taxi, go economy/business/1st class, stay at home or mind your own business - up to the individual as they see fit to spend their time/and or money. It is the individuals choice-nothing to do with anyone else.

3. I believe most people are using agents(or whatever their old title(s)) because it is their choice - see point 2 above. You want to promote Prom and watch videos/eat etc-your choice.

4. NancyL may well do good in the expat community in general but has probably done the opposite at CM Immigration!

5. NancL has been (and may well still be) a disruptive influence at CM Immigration. She has hinted at corruption without ever posting any evidence and as she herself has said on this forum she has in the past been restricted in her activities at CM Immigration to just her own Immigration enquires/needs.

6. If it had not been for 5 above, I believe CM Immigration would not be subject to the problems it now has, because the "upper management" would not now be in the situation where they cannot be seen to lose face and to give in to some Farang women.

[scottiejohn]

4 minutes ago, buddhalady said:

I find the lack of anything remotely resembling compassion on this forum nowadays extremely disturbing.

Do you mean compassion in general or just about compassion for one person?  There is a big difference between the two!

 

[scottiejohn]

On ‎16‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 4:02 PM, Genericnic said:

That is correct. The 6,900 baht fee was inclusive of the extension fee and the 90-day notices.

My deal with my agent in town is similar and includes free transport to get it all done.

[Mark1066]

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[Mark1066]

34 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Before people get too emotive lets consider the following;

1. CM Immigration (and many bureaucratic institutions around the world) has been call the Zoo, and many other things, prior to the year 2000.

2. People must be left be free to spend their time and money as they wish. You can walk, cycle, motor cycle, bus, uber, taxi, go economy/business/1st class, stay at home or mind your own business - up to the individual as they see fit to spend their time/and or money. It is the individuals choice-nothing to do with anyone else.

3. I believe most people are using agents(or whatever their old title(s)) because it is their choice - see point 2 above. You want to promote Prom and watch videos/eat etc-your choice.

4. NancyL may well do good in the expat community in general but has probably done the opposite at CM Immigration!

5. NancL has been (and may well still be) a disruptive influence at CM Immigration. She has hinted at corruption without ever posting any evidence and as she herself has said on this forum she has in the past been restricted in her activities at CM Immigration to just her own Immigration enquires/needs.

6. If it had not been for 5 above, I believe CM Immigration would not be subject to the problems it now has, because the "upper management" would not now be in the situation where they cannot be seen to lose face and to give in to some Farang women.

Agree with points 4, 5 and 6 100%. Done the rest of us absolutely no good at all.

[Dante99]

1 hour ago, Mark1066 said:

Agree with points 4, 5 and 6 100%. Done the rest of us absolutely no good at all.

No end in sight.

[buddhalady]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

Do you mean compassion in general or just about compassion for one person?  There is a big difference between the two!

 

Seem to remember the majority of world religions recommend  compassion for ALL as a good thing. I agree.

 

Not much of it on here, I see,  although the general view must have been different when Nancy was voted POTY....

 

Satisfy my curiosity, guys - what's changed? Couldn't be the new TVF world view, by any chance, could it?

[scottiejohn]

32 minutes ago, buddhalady said:

Nancy was voted POTY

Probably a spelling error!

It was certainly nothing to with her immoral crusade against CM Immigration.  She may well be canonised outwith Immigration.  That is not my concern.

And what has religion got to do with this anyway.  As I and many others have said before we all have our OWN choices. Please leave us to them without the preaching 

Also please do not try and bestow your beliefs to us under this topic. (especially with your avatar).  Lets  get back on topic, if at all possible.  (I know I'm not a MOD - or make believe - but please do it before they shut it down!)

[Bill97]

please be free to do a research on my activity file.and post accordingly my bashing of the zoo.and please do not fear hold you back!!!

No need. Unlike you, I remember.


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[Mark1066]

38 minutes ago, buddhalady said:

Seem to remember the majority of world religions recommend  compassion for ALL as a good thing. I agree.

 

Not much of it on here, I see,  although the general view must have been different when Nancy was voted POTY....

 

Satisfy my curiosity, guys - what's changed? Couldn't be the new TVF world view, by any chance, could it?

Compassion for all, except older white men who prefer to use G4T or its successor than to spend all day at Promenada - is that what you agree with?

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, Dante99 said:

No end in sight

I know I should not say it but with regard to CM Immigration I wish it was one "end" that would not be in sight again.  We all thought it was happening with the Utopian Malaysia move but that seems to have fallen through.  Maybe the Immigration authorities tip each other off!

[evenstevens]

15 minutes ago, Bill97 said:

No need. Unlike you, I remember.


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very happy for you, now have a nice evening

[orang37]

Gosh, after reading the last two pages of this thread, I had to go and listen to this five times while clicking my heels together and shouting "there's no place like home:"  those were the daze ala Yardbirds

 

to stop hearing the screams of the phii preta (hungry ghosts).

 

cheers, ~o:37;

 

p.s. do you know how hard it is to click your heels together barefoot ?

 

[amexpat]

15 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

hinted at corruption without ever posting any evidence

555555  LOL OMG

 

Do you need evidence that it rains during the rainy season? 

[cmsally]

Back on track guys before Orang wears his feet out or gets twisted up in his flip flops so intensely that he keels over in a heap.

As for "Visa Agencies", of course it is up to the individual to use or not use. But I would disagree that having someone in the expats corner to fight battles is to the detriment of expats as a whole. The "yes culture " doesn't always work long term and there is also the possibility that agencies could become part of the system , therefore giving no choice.

[KiChakayan]

17 minutes ago, cmsally said:

.. and there is also the possibility that agencies could become part of the system , therefore giving no choice.

This would be called outsourcing. I'd see nothing wrong if the grumpy, arrogant, IO was only involved in putting stamps into my passport and let som sexy, smiling Thai ladies preparing my file while we share an expresso.  

[cmsally]

Some people of course , would just prefer not to have to pay for the added layer of "friendly" service. There is nothing wrong with a basic fairly workable level of service, there is no reason why everybody should be funneled into a paid for "express queue".

[evenstevens]

23 minutes ago, cmsally said:

. But I would disagree that having someone in the expats corner to fight battles is to the detriment of expats as a whole.

But we do have our Embassys or Consulates etc etc  at our disposal to deal with any major problems etc etc that any Expat may encounter, at the Immgr Dept ,and surely this is the correct decorum procedure  for all partys involved,  Not conduct a personal geurilla war fare such as calling for volounteers to be trained  to spy on the Zoo,s operation( which incidently was posted on this board,)   and i posted at the time of this unnessary crusade against the Immgr Dept that a Softly Softly approach was the best soloution for all concerned, to have the Immgr Dept  improved their visa services etc etc and it would seem at this point of time that has been achevied  to some  degree,  in my view that particular crusade was absoulately senseless in all areas, if anything it probably , put us back months to receiving a better service , a lovely morning to all

[amexpat]

19 minutes ago, evenstevens said:

in my view that particular crusade was absoulately senseless in all areas, if anything it probably , put us back months to receiving a better service

Or it contributed to the slightly improved service you mention.

Softly Softly gets you nothing nothing.  

[evenstevens]

3 minutes ago, amexpat said:

Or it contributed to the slightly improved service you mention.

Softly Softly gets you nothing nothing.  

first line....no way,  it only led to a banning order to the leader

second line...softly softly approach with any Thai ,(in most cases )will bring you respect immediately, u fail to see that its part of their culture

[Dante99]

16 minutes ago, evenstevens said:

 

second line...softly softly approach with any Thai ,(in most cases )will bring you respect immediately, u fail to see that its part of their culture

Repeatedly referring to their place as "The Zoo" would be viewed as offensive wouldn't it?  From a Thai cultural perspective.  If so, how does being offensive fit with your softly softly approach?

[buddhalady]

14 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Probably a spelling error!

It was certainly nothing to with her immoral crusade against CM Immigration.  She may well be canonised outwith Immigration.  That is not my concern.

And what has religion got to do with this anyway.  As I and many others have said before we all have our OWN choices. Please leave us to them without the preaching 

Also please do not try and bestow your beliefs to us under this topic. (especially with your avatar).  Lets  get back on topic, if at all possible.  (I know I'm not a MOD - or make believe - but please do it before they shut it down!)

Scottiejohn - I don't have any formal 'religious beliefs', nor was I 'preaching'. My avatar is ******-all to do with you as it was suggested to me 10 years ago by a friend who died shortly after that,  and I decided to keep it on as a memory of his kindness and compassion. He would have strongly disapproved of the tone of your post -- one of his favourite sayings was 'keep your prejudices under wraps until you've dealt with them'.

 

The post you object to was entered as a reply to a question about my use of the word 'compassion' .  So sorry you didn't quite get the point.

 

Back on topic -  as I said in my first post, whatever anyone's personal feelings about Nancy and her attempts to help expats, at least she tried. I also believe her POTY election may well have been  one result of her efforts and involvement.

 

As regards a recent comment about using embassies or consulates when help is needed,  this may well be true for US expatriates, but it definitely isn't for those from the other side of the pond! 

[buddhalady]

15 hours ago, Mark1066 said:

Compassion for all, except older white men who prefer to use G4T or its successor than to spend all day at Promenada - is that what you agree with?

Mark, I would strongly recommend older white men as well as older white women as well as those of varied human hues to use a visa agent, as I've done for five years. No hassle, and , I believe, essential if there's an ongoing health problem as was the case with my late husband.