British man arrested over death of bar girl in Pattaya

[CG1 Blue]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Guy was an overstayer, 59 days apparently, that will get you guys excited? Plus he took 2 of her phones

At first I pictured a lad on holiday, and a tragic accident. He ran off because he was so distraught.

 

Now we're hearing he was an overstayer, they had argued earlier, she fell to her death, and he stole her phones before moving to a spa hotel.  The picture is changing.

 

RIP young lady

[Bluespunk]

42 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Where's that reported?

Pattaya Addicts and Facebook

Ah facebook...discounting that then.

[Lokie]

5 hours ago, Jeremy50 said:

Why would a 26yo man need to be anywhere near bargirls [prostitutes], and on Viagra too? Poor girl probably refused unreasonable sexual demands and things deteriorated from there,[ it's amazing how fast the 'girlfriend experience' can turn nasty], violence resulted, girl gets thrown off balcony. If this is the case I hope he gets 50years in Bang Kwang. 

Wow you gleamed all that from the OP Jezza? or been watching too many CSI's

 

Maybe the bloke 'was' having a bit of adventurous sex on a balcony with the poor young woman, and balconies being a bit lower here in LOS or maybe not as safe as in other countries there was an accident and the girl fell to her death, this guy then completely panics and is off... IMO it sounds plausible, either way he is going to the Monkey house for sure...

 

RIP to the young woman

[tryasimight]

Looks like he's had a hard life if he is only 25 (if in fact it is his real passport).

On overstay as some posters report.

Took her phones.

Ran away.

I hope the cops look a lot closer into his background as he doesn't sound like a lad fresh off the boat who had a tragic incident.

Perhaps something more sinister going on.

[watcharacters]

5 hours ago, Jeremy50 said:

Why would a 26yo man need to be anywhere near bargirls [prostitutes], and on Viagra too? Poor girl probably refused unreasonable sexual demands and things deteriorated from there,[ it's amazing how fast the 'girlfriend experience' can turn nasty], violence resulted, girl gets thrown off balcony. If this is the case I hope he gets 50years in Bang Kwang. 

 

 

 

 

Good god, you just leap right into it don't you.

 

First theory and then  conjecture  followed  quickly by  a sentence.

 

Do you believe all people arrested are guilty of a crime?

 

 

 

 

[dunroaming]

56 minutes ago, Henrik Andersen said:

So meny comment on this story about money to the family and police 

1 do this scumbag look like he have money?  No

2 his family will probably not pay if they have money 

I hope he get what he deserves 

Lifetime in Hilton it is a nice place 

Just remember this 

Guilty of 

Viagra 

Sex on balcony 

Run away from "accident"

Being a scumbag 

Lots of speculating going on here.  Guilty of Viagra (in this case Kamagra the Indian version) is an odd charge.  Is sex on a balcony illegal, if so I am in the sh*t.  I do agree with scumbag and running away from an accident.  However we don't know if this scumbag has money.  Whooping it up in Thailand and sh*gging his way through the bar girls of Pattaya can be quite expensive.  Like wise assuming that his parents wouldn't pay for his release is a bit of a leap isn't it?

 

46 minutes ago, ttrd said:

Create brothels without balconies....

Well I know some say that Pattaya is just one enormous brothel but it should be said that this was a condo that the Englishman was renting, not a brothel.

[shackleton]

I think there is a lot more going on here unless there is a new craze on people having sex next to balconies which I doubt

The guy involved running off and not reporting the incident is not going to do him any ffavours my money is on a falling out and I will rest my case there

[Formaleins]

6 hours ago, mentalcolonization said:

This guy is doomed .

Well, if you ask me he did a runner, went and booked into another room and had to get nicked rather than go forward and own up or go down and try to help the poor girl (who was still alive after she fell) Bit of a <deleted> if you ask me, and hope he ends up with the justice he deserves. Not sure what kind of sex on a balcony ends up with a girl falling 5 floors to her death - maybe he was in a circus.

He lost my sympathy after he did a runner leaving her alone to die on the road naked, DOG!

[charmonman]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

Someone help me out here.  Where does it say he took viagra?

 

I was thinking the same thing. It doesn't mention viagra in the original post, but someone inserted an "alternate fact" into the narrative and now everyone takes it as the truth. Its the way things work these days apparently.

 

Or perhaps there's another article somewhere that mentions it, I don't know.

Edited January 8, 2018 by charmonman

[richard_smith237]

Western guy in Thailand - decides to go for broke, have a porn-star moment and have a 'bang' on the balcony...  It went very wrong - Up until this point it could simply be death by misadventure. 
 

I find that not to run down 5 floors and render the best possible assistance to be reprehensible. Fear does strange things. 

 

My speculation would be that the guy ran out of sheer fear - In a foreign country where it is common knowledge how lazy and corrupt the police force are. I can't say I blame him for running away. 

 

Sometimes it really is as simple as the reports say - I don't suspect there is more going on here. The obvious explanation is sometimes the right one. 

 

 

 

 

 

[gestreo]

come on you lot he took her back for sex no question there. was having sex in the room and continued on the balcony ok no probs with that, but doe's a runner, books into some other resort & spar and gets nabbed in some bar well well, well, and the poor girl wasn't dead when he took to is heals. it is 'usually' guilt that makes a runner  and he should be arrested  for not going to her aid never mind anything else, time to put your thinking caps before touching the key board 

[Kadilo]

1 hour ago, Destiny1990 said:

Maybe the re-enactment can show exactly how she she fell off the balcony during sex seems weird story 

I can't see many applying for the her role 

[Kadilo]

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

Single men in Pattaya are rarely there for the beach!  They are usually there to screw the bar girls (or boys) so this scenario is not unusual at all.  Let's not make moral judgements here. 

555 gotta love it. 

[Rimmer]

More troll posts removed

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:

well, they got his DNA. So there is evidence they had sex. And if on the balcony. Why not, the nights are beautiful.

But murder? Maybe. But also accident is possible. Will be difficult for the police.

Placing her on a balcony and thrusting, would be manslaughter

[charmonman]

6 hours ago, Jeremy50 said:

Why would a 26yo man need to be anywhere near bargirls [prostitutes], and on Viagra too? Poor girl probably refused unreasonable sexual demands and things deteriorated from there,[ it's amazing how fast the 'girlfriend experience' can turn nasty], violence resulted, girl gets thrown off balcony. If this is the case I hope he gets 50years in Bang Kwang. 

Because he's horny, the bargirls are available, and he doesn't want to spend his whole night trying to pick up a "regular" girl?What, you think the only customers in gogo bars and massage parlours are senior citizens?

 

The whole thing sounds like a tragic accident to me, but his having fled the scene certainly doesn't help his case.

[sanemax]

19 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Western guy in Thailand - decides to go for broke, have a porn-star moment and have a 'bang' on the balcony...  It went very wrong - Up until this point it could simply be death by misadventure. 

I find that not to run down 5 floors and render the best possible assistance to be reprehensible. Fear does strange things. 

My speculation would be that the guy ran out of sheer fear - In a foreign country where it is common knowledge how lazy and corrupt the police force are. I can't say I blame him for running away. 

Sometimes it really is as simple as the reports say - I don't suspect there is more going on here. The obvious explanation is sometimes the right one. 

More like, he knew her from a previous encounter, hence the argument in the bar, they went back to his place, he thought of her as his girlfriend, they had sex, hence the used condoms, she then asked for payment . 

   They argued and she ended up going over the balcony, he then did a runner, knowing that he was responsible for her death,.

[Cranky]

6 hours ago, Jeremy50 said:

Why would a 26yo man need to be anywhere near bargirls [prostitutes], and on Viagra too? Poor girl probably refused unreasonable sexual demands and things deteriorated from there,[ it's amazing how fast the 'girlfriend experience' can turn nasty], violence resulted, girl gets thrown off balcony. If this is the case I hope he gets 50years in Bang Kwang. 

Jesus, you worked all that out from a picture - do you do palms?

[impulse]

15 minutes ago, charmonman said:

Because he's horny, the bargirls are available, and he doesn't want to spend his whole night trying to pick up a "regular" girl?

 

Whole night?  More like the whole holiday...  With a pretty high probability of never sealing the deal, in spite of a significant investment.

 

Edited January 8, 2018 by impulse

[Cranky]

Just now, impulse said:

 

Whole night?  Try the whole holiday...

You could spend 10 holidays here and not get anywhere near an honest to goodness Thai girl.  Pay up.  Live here a few years, maybe, just maybe.

[Kadilo]

I hope a lot of the posters on here never get do jury service. Poor sod ain’t got a chance. 

[Stevemercer]

The previously posted link to the British 'Sun' newspaper states that he was arrested on suspicion of causing death through negligence, being on over-stay and for stealing a motorbike. He also had the girl's phone with him. 

 

 

Edited January 8, 2018 by Stevemercer

[Henrik Andersen]

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

Lots of speculating going on here.  Guilty of Viagra (in this case Kamagra the Indian version) is an odd charge.  Is sex on a balcony illegal, if so I am in the sh*t.  I do agree with scumbag and running away from an accident.  However we don't know if this scumbag has money.  Whooping it up in Thailand and sh*gging his way through the bar girls of Pattaya can be quite expensive.  Like wise assuming that his parents wouldn't pay for his release is a bit of a leap isn't it?

 

Well I know some say that Pattaya is just one enormous brothel but it should be said that this was a condo that the Englishman was renting, not a brothel.

Normally overstay means no money and he have some problems before in England and yes sex on balcony is illegal 

[GTgrizzly]

What a dirt bag

Accident or not he still should have tried to help her and call the relevant numbers, IE ambulance, police etc etc  and then gone to see if there was anything he could do to help her.

Even if it was just to cover her up

What a sad way to die

My condolences to her family and friends

I hope he gets locked up for a very long time even if it was an accident

[KiChakayan]

7 hours ago, sanemax said:

I dont think there would have been any difference as to whether which Nationality he was 

Not his nationality! The other way around he would have commited suicide, period.

[PAIBKK]

Just another quality tourist banged up...

[KiChakayan]

4 minutes ago, GTgrizzly said:

What a dirt bag

Accident or not he still should have tried to help her and call the relevant numbers, IE ambulance, police etc etc  and then gone to see if there was anything he could do to help her.

Even if it was just to cover her up

What a sad way to die

My condolences to her family and friends

I hope he gets locked up for a very long time even if it was an accident

The only sensible thing to do was to proceed to the Cambodian border ASAP. And, maybe, defend his case from home.

 

Remember: "Innocent unless proven guilty". Here being a Farang is proof enough.

Edited January 8, 2018 by KiChakayan

[Bastos60]

4 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Let the speculation begin (2)
 

 

What speculation? 

Having sex on the balcony and she slipped of his dick?

 

He ran from the scene of the 'accident'. Actually bothered to book a room at another resort. That behaviour gets you arrested even if it only is an accident.

 

 

[KiChakayan]

6 hours ago, Torfinn Sporkland said:

How on earth is it possible to fell over the railings whilst doing it,.. I mean it could happen,.. but that so extremely unlikely. 

Railings are just at the right height to sit her on it. He must have tried to raise her legs.

This is a classic..

Sorry to be a bit graphic, I understand that for some posters here, sex is a crime.

Edited January 8, 2018 by KiChakayan

[Senior Player]

As others have pointed out, The Sun reports possession of the gir’s phone, so he’s a thief as well as a coward. Another overstayer giving legitimate visa holders a bad name. Stole a motorbike as well. The report also includes a packet of Kamagra oral jelly which was found next to her body which gave the first clue that she wasn’t alone. I mention this as there are some here having difficulty understanding the report of erectile disfunction drugs. For such a young stud this guy must have psychological problems not to get it up without the aid of Kamagra. Clearly he wasn’t that drunk that he couldn’t scarper immediately after her death and check into another hotel.

 

I’ve also just had a look at the photos of the balconies at Cosy Beach View and they are modern, high and have a glass facia. These aren’t some cheap, rickety old balconies we’re talking about here. The couple would have had to have been standing on a chair or table for the girl to have tipped herself over. Sorry, but I can’t see how it was possible to accidentally fall off this balcony, certainly not without the partner falling closely behind. The logistics of this look impossible. Unless of course he lifted her up and helped her over.

 

Even if we take the death of this young girl out of the equation, the suspect still comes across as an unsavoury character, being a thief and all. Not that we can take her death out of the equation, that is.

 

This will probably upset a few of the degenerate brigade that frequent these boards, and that have a perverse sympathy for this particular individual (god knows why), but the signs don’t look good for Reece Vella. Even if he is somehow found innocent of this poor girl’s death, he’s an absolute bounder and a cad for running away. Either way, I hope he gets his just desserts.

 

RIP Wannipa Janhuathon 

Edited January 8, 2018 by Senior Player