Dual pricing: What happened when a Thai was charged the ‘farang price’

[travelman6]

I used to patronise a restaurant in Chiang Mai, until I noticed that they had two different menus,  one in Thai an one in English, so that got my curiosity up, so I asked my Thai friend, what was the price on his Thai menu for a certain item and it was 20 baht less than mine, so I have NEVER gone back to that restaurant again. They lost a VERY GOOD  regular customer. 

[ExpatDraco]

Me too

What are you guys still doing on a Thailand forum?

Note to self: stick to the visa section, all the rest seems to be full of Thailand haters.

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[Ahab]

On ‎1‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 10:20 AM, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said:

 

What are the Japanese overcharged for on Guam?

On Hawaii anybody can get a local discount if they live there based on showing a local drivers license, easy to get even if there for a relatively short time like a College student. Not based on race or nationality even so totally different than Thai Farang price. Same for California.

 

Dive tours, snorkeling adventures, women.

[evadgib]

11 hours ago, MartinL said:

I consider my wife to be not only a very good woman in all respects but one of the best I could want to meet anywhere, Thai or other nationality. 

Mine too; The most genuine person I have ever met & with a wicked sense of humour 

[chrissables]

On 19/01/2018 at 2:00 PM, outsider said:

 

Last I checked, VAT is refundable when one leaves Thailand, no? If yes, then the tax that was 'paid' wasn't really 'paid', was it?

 

As for whether locals pay income tax or not, I'm afraid that wasn't the point of my post/comment.

 

So please explain how do you do that, every restaurant, bar, tourist attraction will give you a VAT invoice? How about the small family shops?

 

Of course if you buy large products it's easy to get a VAT refund, how about expats?

 

Think before you write.

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, chrissables said:

So please explain how do you do that, every restaurant, bar, tourist attraction will give you a VAT invoice? How about the small family shops?

 

Of course if you buy large products it's easy to get a VAT refund, how about expats?

 

Think before you write.

Even the large items will NOT qualify for a VAT refund, unless they are unused and in the original wrapping.

 

[Neeranam]

On 21/01/2018 at 9:36 AM, MartinL said:

Before we married, I was in touch with her every day.

Is this unusual?

 

 

[oldhippy]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

If you have a job, and a Thai spouse it is pretty easy.

numbers please

 

[coulson]

11 hours ago, chrissables said:

So please explain how do you do that, every restaurant, bar, tourist attraction will give you a VAT invoice? How about the small family shops?

 

Of course if you buy large products it's easy to get a VAT refund, how about expats?

 

Think before you write.

Don't forget the queue at point if exit. That alone almost renders the whole exercise unworthwhile.....

[chrissables]

On 20/01/2018 at 1:51 PM, Neeranam said:

I learned to read and write Thai in one month. 1 hour a day with a book for 200 baht from AUA.

No excuse for anyone living here not to learn it, IMHO. A 3 year old can do it. A friend of mine has lived here for 20 years and doesn't know Thai  numbers, or what month it is! What makes it more bizarre is that her is a language teacher with a qualification in language acquisition!!

The months are not so easy to learn, even some Thai people don't bother too much and say "month 3" for example.

[DavisH]

On 1/17/2018 at 7:31 PM, White Christmas13 said:

I am glad I left Thailand what a country to live in

Amazing Thailand...you will also be amazed at the 500 baht Pad Thai I got in Australia...with one small prawn in it!

[Old Croc]

7 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Amazing Thailand...you will also be amazed at the 500 baht Pad Thai I got in Australia...with one small prawn in it!

Considering the average salary in Australia is about 6 times higher than in Thailand that price is the equivalent of about 84 baht. 

A bit stingy with the prawns however, it must have been a genuine Thai restaurant.

[jackdd]

15 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I can only share my experience, lodged my application for citizenship in Dec, 17, got the interview with the National intelligence agency this week. There is no limit or quota for the number of people applying for this. Frankly, I'm amazed at how few do, compared to long term residents in other countries.

Quite easy: Not all countries allow a dual citizenship. And who is willing to give up for example a German citizenship for a Thai citizenship... The other way, when going from Thai to for example German, offers much more "value", so of course more people do this 

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Numbers for what?

 

I can only share my experience, lodged my application for citizenship in Dec, 17, got the interview with the National intelligence agency this week. There is no limit or quota for the number of people applying for this. Frankly, I'm amazed at how few do, compared to long term residents in other countries.

Numbers for what?

 

Numbers of successfull applicants per year.

Thank you in advance.

 

[metisdead]

Off topic posts, inflammatory posts and offensive posts and replies have been removed as well as the replies. 

[popeyesretreat]

This happens everywhere, it isn't like Thailand made this up. When I lived in Vegas, I paid 75% of what non, NV resident paid, now I am in Florida and Disney gives Florida resident a 50% discount. So if your from Thailand you get a discount, who cares, oh wait the Cheap Charlies do

[Blue Muton]

22 minutes ago, popeyesretreat said:

This happens everywhere, it isn't like Thailand made this up. When I lived in Vegas, I paid 75% of what non, NV resident paid, now I am in Florida and Disney gives Florida resident a 50% discount. So if your from Thailand you get a discount, who cares, oh wait the Cheap Charlies do

 Sorry but that is completely different, residence and nationality are not the same thing. You seem to be confusing the two in addition to being unable to recognise principles, which is why most of us object.

What about the Lao, Cambodian and Myanmar migrant workers on minimum wage, are they "Cheap Charlies" too?

[MartinL]

44 minutes ago, popeyesretreat said:

This happens everywhere, it isn't like Thailand made this up. When I lived in Vegas, I paid 75% of what non, NV resident paid, now I am in Florida and Disney gives Florida resident a 50% discount. So if your from Thailand you get a discount, who cares, oh wait the Cheap Charlies do

But you wouldn't have been refused a Vegas or Florida discount on the grounds that, even though you lived in the locality, you weren't a US citizen, which is exactly what happens here in Thailand.

[MrPatrickThai]

10 hours ago, MartinL said:

But you wouldn't have been refused a Vegas or Florida discount on the grounds that, even though you lived in the locality, you weren't a US citizen, which is exactly what happens here in Thailand.

I get the Thai price for showing my driver's license or Alien card.

[wakeupplease]

2 hours ago, MrPatrickThai said:

I get the Thai price for showing my driver's license or Alien card.

I used to get the Thai price every time, because the wife always fronted purchases. national parks let the wife drive put on the sunglasses and Thai silly, hat in you go Thai price. play them at their own silly game. But UK sorry I am to busy, go see a friend I know, he loads his price and sends me a few bottles. Sorted

Edited January 24, 2018 by wakeupplease

[i Phad]

I never argue about "farang" pricing, nor get angry. The very few times this has happened to me over the years (takeaway), I just smile, refuse the food and walk away.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and replies bickering about dual citizenship have been removed. 

[Blue Muton]

19 hours ago, MrPatrickThai said:

I get the Thai price for showing my driver's license or Alien card.

Unlikely that you get the Thai price at national parks these days.

[StevieAus]

On 1/18/2018 at 9:40 PM, wakeupplease said:

You missed the point it racialism and in most countries that is illegal and thais would are the first to shout when it happens to them. For years My company did a lot of work for Thais in the UK and because of my wife, got it cheap. Now I cannot by law charge them 3 or 4 times the going rate, so now I just say I am too busy sorry. They go to others near me who know how I feel and they wack them top rate. That is because of how things are here. By law I can refuse to do work if I want to. If you cannot get them one way you can another.

I don’t wish to be pedantic but I think if you look at your definition it’s not racialism but it is certainly discriminatory.

The problem here is that unlike many other countries legislation making discrimination unlawful, in many areas doesn’t exist, you only have to look at the discrimination that occurs between genders, employment and so on.

The other factor is that Thais are very Nationalistic which in many ways for the country is good they put Thailand first which is probably why they have manufacturing industries unlike for example Australia.

I have come to the conclusion that if you want to live here you have to accept these practices and polices that are complained of on this site.

I don’t see them changing anytime soon and for me it’s not worth getting churned up about.

For me the advantages of living here outweigh the disadvantages, the only alternative is to leave.

I learned a long time ago in the profession in which I worked that there is little point in arguing a case that you know you are going to loose.

[trainman34014]

Wherever we go to eat i always let my Thai Mrs choose what we are eating as i love all Thai food and she only chooses the healthiest food anyway.  It's rare for me to even look at a Menu unless we go somewhere with mostly Western style food.    When the bill arrives the Wife checks every Baht and has on numerous occasions down the years sent the bill back for alteration, normally for the subtraction of items we never ordered or had delivered.   I cannot recall a time when we have been subjected to any dual pricing but if it ever happens the Wife will sort it...Period !

[wakeupplease]

On 1/25/2018 at 11:52 AM, StevieAus said:

I don’t wish to be pedantic but I think if you look at your definition it’s not racialism but it is certainly discriminatory.

The problem here is that unlike many other countries legislation making discrimination unlawful, in many areas doesn’t exist, you only have to look at the discrimination that occurs between genders, employment and so on.

The other factor is that Thais are very Nationalistic which in many ways for the country is good they put Thailand first which is probably why they have manufacturing industries unlike for example Australia.

I have come to the conclusion that if you want to live here you have to accept these practices and polices that are complained of on this site.

I don’t see them changing anytime soon and for me it’s not worth getting churned up about.

For me the advantages of living here outweigh the disadvantages, the only alternative is to leave.

I learned a long time ago in the profession in which I worked that there is little point in arguing a case that you know you are going to loose.

Yes but you have to put up with it, I can afford not to, you turn up the aircon, I just turn up the heating and enjoy life knowing the police are around the corner and will help in emergency, BIB will just say you committed suicide nuff said

[StevieAus]

4 hours ago, wakeupplease said:

Yes but you have to put up with it, I can afford not to, you turn up the aircon, I just turn up the heating and enjoy life knowing the police are around the corner and will help in emergency, BIB will just say you committed suicide nuff said

I don’t really understand much of what you are saying but not to worry

We don’t have any problem with the police probably because of our arrangement with them

On the couple of occasions we needed assistance at our two businesses they responded very quickly and resolved matters to our complete satisfaction

[Neeranam]

On 25/01/2018 at 7:31 PM, trainman34014 said:

Wherever we go to eat i always let my Thai Mrs choose what we are eating as i love all Thai food and she only chooses the healthiest food anyway.  It's rare for me to even look at a Menu unless we go somewhere with mostly Western style food.    When the bill arrives the Wife checks every Baht and has on numerous occasions down the years sent the bill back for alteration, normally for the subtraction of items we never ordered or had delivered.   I cannot recall a time when we have been subjected to any dual pricing but if it ever happens the Wife will sort it...Period !

Don't you feel like her son or helpless?

I like to choose my own food and check the bill myself.

But each to their own and live and let live.

[The manic]

On 17/01/2018 at 8:04 PM, bannork said:

So why bother posting?

Indeed. Why bother reading TV?

[sandyf]

On 1/25/2018 at 7:31 PM, trainman34014 said:

Wherever we go to eat i always let my Thai Mrs choose what we are eating as i love all Thai food and she only chooses the healthiest food anyway.  It's rare for me to even look at a Menu unless we go somewhere with mostly Western style food.    When the bill arrives the Wife checks every Baht and has on numerous occasions down the years sent the bill back for alteration, normally for the subtraction of items we never ordered or had delivered.   I cannot recall a time when we have been subjected to any dual pricing but if it ever happens the Wife will sort it...Period !

Exactly. There is no dual pricing around here, but then there are very few foreigners. Everything in the markets are priced so you know what you need to pay. If I go to the hospital, clinic or dentist I pay the same as the Thais. In December I had a comprehensive check up at the cancer hospital,1600 baht, and the week before last I had a tooth out, 500 baht, what is there to complain about.