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11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Your memory must be worse than mine.

Royal Garden mall was there in the 90s, and Mike Shopping mall carpark was full of tour buses bringing Asian tourists to go shopping. Loads of tour buses grinding up Beach Road every day.

Big C shopping Mall in North Pattaya. 

Plenty of Lady boys around then too. They even had their own bar on walking Street by the Marine escalators.

 

However, it was safer.

I stand corrected....you are right...my memory is probably worse than yours. Too many trips in the last 30 years (50+) I’m loosing my mind?

However the ladyboy thing has gotten much worse...for sure. 

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12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Your memory must be worse than mine.

Royal Garden mall was there in the 90s, and Mike Shopping mall carpark was full of tour buses bringing Asian tourists to go shopping. Loads of tour buses grinding up Beach Road every day.

Big C shopping Mall in North Pattaya. 

Plenty of Lady boys around then too. They even had their own bar on walking Street by the Marine escalators.

 

However, it was safer.

Arguably the 90's were some of the best years to be in Pattaya.

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56 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

Experiences are not exactly random but based on certain input. If 80% input includes Soi 6 happy hour 7 days a week and waking up hungover half the time I can see where OP might have a point. I have only been here a 18 months. Met the sweetest lady ever, pretty much happy and smiling all the time, not just with me but with all who she interacts with. Bought a guesthouse/café that is doing outstanding thanks to her attitude, genuine smile and 14 hour days / 7 days per week. She never complains, always happy and appreciative. All her family are as nice as I have ever encountered. The little I invested in the business was money I could easily lose and not have any effect on my life style but has been a dream come true for my lady and priceless to me knowing I am able to give something back. Experiences are the sum of what you make them. Not really fair to judge all the locals while all your observations are from the bottom of the barrel.

Well said and well done.  Many Pattaya bashers have never been here, have low intelligence, and are right wing Christian fundamentalists who have infiltrated this forum.  PM me and I will visit your bar. Good luck mate!

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1 hour ago, JSixpack said:

Well, I did report your post as off topic but as it wasn't deleted guess I'll need to respond.

 

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JSixpack be da man, baby. Don't be forgettin' it, neither.

 

 

All them Whither Pattaya and Whither Thailand space monkeys and nitpicks that plague, or merely seem to plague (try suggesting raising visa fees to help pay for improvements!), our forum snowflakes don't bother me, true. I also see the good aspects of living here that far outweigh the bad.

 

In fact I think the vast majority of countless expats living in Thailand or in our cesspool are happy enough. They merely aren't bothering to post on the forum, leaving it to the infestation of whingers, cynics, and rabid bashers. So it becomes a target-rich echo chamber. For every basher, remember there are a thousand Brits living in council estates dreaming of how they might live here permanently. 

 

My interactions with Thais are almost always pleasant (had fun just today joking around w/ some lovely nurses) merely because I learned years ago how to push the right buttons to make them so. Arrogance, self-importance, and provincialism are at the root of much discontent among farang community here and have led in part to the attitude from Pattaya Thais so often denounced on the forum. Other stuff, nothing to be done about it anyway, not my business, and I've just never needed to get attention by whinging or to feel superior by bashing. I have a comfortable life. You might review The Serenity Prayer.

 

From my Profile:

 

Q: Why are you posting?

A: To be helpful when possible. Otherwise, to correct bias and nonsense while having a good laugh via satire. I've found satire about the only hope of changing any minds around here--facts, logic, and a rational perspective are pretty much useless. I like making fun of posts by our whingers, know-it-alls, blowhards, ace experts in every field (esp economics), tea money choristers, bigots, and of course doomsayers. In the course of which, by acting as troll bait, I try to help rid the forum of trolls--and sometimes succeed. :tongue: Endless supply of 'em though.

 

There aren't many members posting balanced, rational, objective views. We

  • live and let live,
  • accept the unchangeable,
  • handle problems routinely,
  • interact with Thais well, and simply
  • roll with the flow,

unfazed by the mess and paradox one may naturally expect to encounter in a Third World country. Since we're pretty happy living in Thailand, we're often labeled wearers of rose-tinted classes, Thai apologists with heads in the sand, and the worst term of opprobrium known to any TVF Poster: real estate agents!

 

Underlying the good laugh is the presentation of an opportunity for the miserable to consider whether there might be another way of looking at things, and of interacting with the people of this culture, to be happier and overcome the pathetic need to whinge and bash.

 

Or, just leave and be happy, as you are moving to the paradise of Hua Hin.:smile: I heartily approve; wasn't my post helpful? The dire future of Pattaya and of farangs in Thailand has already been depicted, graphically, on THIS forum to your complete and utter satisfaction. Besides this, the TV forum posters' sage, street-smart three Primal Laws Of Survival In Thailand are enshrined as gospel.

 

And I've previously introduced an old whinger to the paradise of The Villages; he soon disappeared. Lots of helpful threads on the forum about moving back to the UK. Hart in Hampshire looks lovely, no cesspool that: Best places to live in the UK: Hart in Hampshire tops list for the fifth year in a row. Here's a glowing report on moving back to Walmart Country: Why are you still in Thailand? Thai wife loves it there. More: USA -- low budget repatriation specific locations that aren't horrible. Why wait? Enough with the excuses!

 

 

     HA HA.  Got a chuckle out of that worst thing to be called on TV--real estate agent!  That's been hurled at me numerous times!   I so enjoy your posts.

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4 hours ago, JAZZDOG said:

Experiences are not exactly random but based on certain input. If 80% input includes Soi 6 happy hour 7 days a week and waking up hungover half the time I can see where OP might have a point. I have only been here a 18 months. Met the sweetest lady ever, pretty much happy and smiling all the time, not just with me but with all who she interacts with. Bought a guesthouse/café that is doing outstanding thanks to her attitude, genuine smile and 14 hour days / 7 days per week. She never complains, always happy and appreciative. All her family are as nice as I have ever encountered. The little I invested in the business was money I could easily lose and not have any effect on my life style but has been a dream come true for my lady and priceless to me knowing I am able to give something back. Experiences are the sum of what you make them. Not really fair to judge all the locals while all your observations are from the bottom of the barrel.

Report back in 10 years.  Am expecting you will lose your investment.

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2 hours ago, JSixpack said:

Well, I did report your post as off topic but as it wasn't deleted guess I'll need to respond.

 

flaming.jpg.f98c68516faef4d21aa80cd59671ff97.jpg

 

 

JSixpack be da man, baby. Don't be forgettin' it, neither.

 

 

All them Whither Pattaya and Whither Thailand space monkeys and nitpicks that plague, or merely seem to plague (try suggesting raising visa fees to help pay for improvements!), our forum snowflakes don't bother me, true. I also see the good aspects of living here that far outweigh the bad.

 

In fact I think the vast majority of countless expats living in Thailand or in our cesspool are happy enough. They merely aren't bothering to post on the forum, leaving it to the infestation of whingers, cynics, and rabid bashers. So it becomes a target-rich echo chamber. For every basher, remember there are a thousand Brits living in council estates dreaming of how they might live here permanently. 

 

My interactions with Thais are almost always pleasant (had fun just today joking around w/ some lovely nurses) merely because I learned years ago how to push the right buttons to make them so. Arrogance, self-importance, and provincialism are at the root of much discontent among farang community here and have led in part to the attitude from Pattaya Thais so often denounced on the forum. Other stuff, nothing to be done about it anyway, not my business, and I've just never needed to get attention by whinging or to feel superior by bashing. I have a comfortable life. You might review The Serenity Prayer.

 

From my Profile:

 

Q: Why are you posting?

A: To be helpful when possible. Otherwise, to correct bias and nonsense while having a good laugh via satire. I've found satire about the only hope of changing any minds around here--facts, logic, and a rational perspective are pretty much useless. I like making fun of posts by our whingers, know-it-alls, blowhards, ace experts in every field (esp economics), tea money choristers, bigots, and of course doomsayers. In the course of which, by acting as troll bait, I try to help rid the forum of trolls--and sometimes succeed. :tongue: Endless supply of 'em though.

 

There aren't many members posting balanced, rational, objective views. We

  • live and let live,
  • accept the unchangeable,
  • handle problems routinely,
  • interact with Thais well, and simply
  • roll with the flow,

unfazed by the mess and paradox one may naturally expect to encounter in a Third World country. Since we're pretty happy living in Thailand, we're often labeled wearers of rose-tinted classes, Thai apologists with heads in the sand, and the worst term of opprobrium known to any TVF Poster: real estate agents!

 

Underlying the good laugh is the presentation of an opportunity for the miserable to consider whether there might be another way of looking at things, and of interacting with the people of this culture, to be happier and overcome the pathetic need to whinge and bash.

 

Or, just leave and be happy, as you are moving to the paradise of Hua Hin.:smile: I heartily approve; wasn't my post helpful? The dire future of Pattaya and of farangs in Thailand has already been depicted, graphically, on THIS forum to your complete and utter satisfaction. Besides this, the TV forum posters' sage, street-smart three Primal Laws Of Survival In Thailand are enshrined as gospel.

 

And I've previously introduced an old whinger to the paradise of The Villages; he soon disappeared. Lots of helpful threads on the forum about moving back to the UK. Hart in Hampshire looks lovely, no cesspool that: Best places to live in the UK: Hart in Hampshire tops list for the fifth year in a row. Here's a glowing report on moving back to Walmart Country: Why are you still in Thailand? Thai wife loves it there. More: USA -- low budget repatriation specific locations that aren't horrible. Why wait? Enough with the excuses!

 

 

Am thinking of reporting your post as War and Peace seems shorter and an easier read.

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12 minutes ago, Rc2702 said:

Whenever I think of pattaya I get images of cockney pensioners acting like 25 year olds with 18 year olds pandering to their needs in the form of fake laughter amd giggles. 

You really need to go and satisfy your curiosity.

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8 hours ago, norrska said:

Report back in 10 years.  Am expecting you will lose your investment.

No problem there Norrska, in 10 years my current investments plus ones I have yet to come up with will provide 100 times the value of this minimal investment. Guys like me and you are different again mainly because of our experiences in life. It appears by most of your negative comments your experiences have been negative and unprofitable. Me, quite the opposite.

 

Pura Vida

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7 hours ago, Rc2702 said:

Whenever I think of pattaya I get images of cockney pensioners acting like 25 year olds with 18 year olds pandering to their needs in the form of fake laughter amd giggles. 

     And, nothing wrong with that.  But, from my observation actually living here, most pensioners I see are with what look like their original wives or with Thai wives or girlfriends in their 30s, 40s, and 50s.  You see them out and about getting groceries at Big C Extra or Tesco, at restaurants, at the mall, and so on.  They look like they are having a far better time than stuck in some old folks home.

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On ‎2‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 6:13 AM, Doctorbu said:

I stand corrected....you are right...my memory is probably worse than yours. Too many trips in the last 30 years (50+) I’m loosing my mind?

However the ladyboy thing has gotten much worse...for sure. 

I'll agree that the ladyboys themselves are getting worse, but the problem was there long ago. When returning from Walking St after day break ( back in the 90s ), I had to literally run to avoid the ladyboy gauntlet.

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12 hours ago, norrska said:

Am thinking of reporting your post as War and Peace seems shorter and an easier read.

 

An imagined slur often resorted to in absence of any argument, and so addressed in my profile. I'll have to add in the "long sentences" complaint. By coincidence I do mention a fact about War And Peace you're not aware of.

 

Q: Why do you write such long posts?

A: Piece o' cake. Me, I was lucky to have had an excellent typing teacher in the 10th grade: Mrs. Brown, bless 'er. If you yourself need help learning to type, you might try here: Learn How to Touch Type. I'm also enjoying using my backlit mechanical keyboard with Cherry MX blue switches. Tried one yet? You should. For perspective, consider that Tolstoy rewrote War And Peace eight times with a quill pen. Spend more time with Henry James and Marcel Proust.

 

Behind the scenes, I do have some great tools for fast composition, like clipboard manager, scrapbook, autopager, quick text paster, web editor, etc. So many forum posts in the Pattaya forum are just timeworn repetitions that only merit the same copy-and-paste response anyway.

 

But let's not go there. :smile: Better comfort yourself w/ the (laughable) fantasy that I'm lonely, obsessed, need to get a life, etc. Cheers!

 

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1 minute ago, JSixpack said:

 

An imagined slur often resorted to in absence of any argument, and so addressed in my profile. I'll have to add in the "long sentences" complaint. By coincidence I do mention a fact about War And Peace you're not aware of.

 

Q: Why do you write such long posts?

A: Piece o' cake. Me, I was lucky to have had an excellent typing teacher in the 10th grade: Mrs. Brown, bless 'er. If you yourself need help learning to type, you might try here: Learn How to Touch Type. I'm also enjoying using my backlit mechanical keyboard with Cherry MX blue switches. Tried one yet? You should. For perspective, consider that Tolstoy rewrote War And Peace eight times with a quill pen. Spend more time with Henry James and Marcel Proust.

 

Behind the scenes, I do have some great tools for fast composition, like clipboard manager, scrapbook, autopager, quick text paster, web editor, etc. So many forum posts in the Pattaya forum are just timeworn repetitions that only merit the same copy-and-paste response anyway.

 

But let's not go there. :smile: Better comfort yourself w/ the (laughable) fantasy that I'm lonely, obsessed, need to get a life, etc. Cheers!

 

Jesus wept!

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4 hours ago, JAZZDOG said:

No problem there Norrska, in 10 years my current investments plus ones I have yet to come up with will provide 100 times the value of this minimal investment. Guys like me and you are different again mainly because of our experiences in life. It appears by most of your negative comments your experiences have been negative and unprofitable. Me, quite the opposite.

 

Pura Vida

Wrong you are and also overly sensitive to practical advice, resorting to ad hominem attacks...some would call that delusional, not to mention vindictive

 

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2 minutes ago, norrska said:

Jesus wept!

Just to add to what Jsixpack wrote on that subject:

 

Many people, particularly some older posters, had a good education where they learned how to write, this before the days of the computer et al. Such posters are therefore not limited to single monosyllable words and three-word answers.

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Just now, simoh1490 said:

Just to add to what Jsixpack wrote on that subject:

 

Many people, particularly some older posters, had a good education where they learned how to write, this before the days of the computer et al. Such posters are therefore not limited to single monosyllable words and three-word answers.

LOL, lucky for computers.  Imagine if they had to handwrite everything.  Severe writer's cramp!

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