webfact Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Premchai linked to crime scene weapons as police try to reassure public By PIYAPORN WONGRUANG THE NATION File photo TWO RIFLES and a shotgun found at a wildlife crime scene belong to construction tycoon Premchai Karnasuta, while the shotgun has been linked to the site where an endangered black leopard was killed, Pol General Jarumporn Suramanee, an adviser to a new panel investigating the case, said yesterday. However, Premchai, president of Italian-Thai Development Ltd, had not yet been identified as the shooter, Jarumporn said. Jarumporn, a former commissioner at the Office of Police Forensic Science and an adviser to the Royal Thai Police, said during a press briefing that authorities had checked registration documents for firearms and found that they all belonged to Premchai. Spent shells found at scene in Thungyai Naresuan Wildlife Sanctuary where the leopard was killed were fired from Premchai’s shotgun, he added. Jarumporn also downplayed concerns that Premchai would escape charges of poaching and other related crimes, citing evidence found already that he said was strong enough to prosecute the case. However, he would not confirm whether Premchai would be indicted on all the charges, including the most critical of poaching and possessing carcasses and remains of protected species. Police so far have charged Premchai and his three companions with nine joint offences carrying varying penalties. Jarumporn said police would continue to analyse evidence to be able to forward the case for indictment, but added that some suspects might not be charged with all the offences depending on the evidence. Deputy police chief Pol General Srivara Ransibrahmanakul earlier told the press conference that police had not found identifiable fingerprints on the shotgun and there were only traces of DNA, prompting concerns among the public that the culprits could evade responsibility. Premchai and his three companions were detained on February 4 in Thung Yai Naresuan Wildlife Sanctuary by wildlife rangers led by their chief, Wichian Shinwong. They were then officially charged by Thong Pha Phum police, which initiated a police investigation. Under police procedures, the suspects can be subjected to a maximum period of 84 days of interrogation, as the offences carry penalties of as much as 10 years in jail. But every 12 days, police must file a new court request for extension of the detention period, even though the suspects are free on bail. The accused so far have not shown up but have been represented by their lawyers. Premchai and his alleged accomplices are scheduled to meet Srivara for questioning on Monday. Police have warned that they will ask the court to revoke their bail if they fail to report. Natural Resources and Environment Minister General Surasak Kanjanarat assured the public that there was sound evidence against the suspects and authorities would initially push for prosecution on all the nine charges confirmed by a panel he had appointed. “We feel the same sense of urgency as you. The government has instructed us to take it seriously so we will proceed with this case in all earnestness,” Surasak said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30339899 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-03-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 57 minutes ago, webfact said: Deputy police chief Pol General Srivara Ransibrahmanakul earlier told the press conference that police had not found identifiable fingerprints on the shotgun and there were only traces of DNA, prompting concerns among the public that the culprits could evade responsibility. guess we know who got the biggest payoff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Linked to the crime scene? Really. There is a <deleted>' photo of him caught at his tent! What other wide opening findings will these cops find? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcula Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: The government has instructed us to take it seriously so we will proceed with this case in all earnestness,” Surasak said. Policing is serious business - who knew! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted March 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2018 It looks like the Cook or maybe driver are been set up to be the fall guy,i mean the big game hunter was just there and did not know anything that was going on, and he shit himself when he did finally find out. regards worgeordie 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, worgeordie said: It looks like the Cook or maybe driver are been set up to be the fall guy,i mean the big game hunter was just there and did not know anything that was going on, and he shit himself when he did finally find out. regards worgeordie yep! Same story as "housekeeper was driving the car." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Has he deigned to pop into the police station yet? Justice Thai style: 'Innocent until proven poor.' 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SABloke Posted March 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, webfact said: there were only traces of DNA, In an unrelated island case, I believe there was zero DNA on the murder weapon, and those guys went to jail. "Traces" should be plenty then 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 40 minutes ago, worgeordie said: It looks like the Cook or maybe driver are been set up to be the fall guy,i mean the big game hunter was just there and did not know anything that was going on, and he shit himself when he did finally find out. regards worgeordie Has had actually been advised as yet that his gun/s were involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 3 hours ago, webfact said: . . . as police try to reassure public. To reassure the public about what, for Christ's sake? . . . That the black leopard is definitely dead and that it seems like it was that dastardly rascal, Premchai, that gone an' dun it. The public must be champing at the bit to know this stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 33 minutes ago, newatthis said: yep! Same story as "housekeeper was driving the car." Not unlike the story of the housekeeper, driver, and gardener who unbeknown to themselves and by some mysterious way had millions in their bank accounts. Just another of life's little mysteries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, SABloke said: In an unrelated island case, I believe there was zero DNA on the murder weapon, and those guys went to jail. "Traces" should be plenty then Yes . . . considering that they allow for 99% of the stuff being lost . . . or swept under the carpet, once the 'business' has been seen to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Please do us all a favour and retire the entire police force, the judges and the courts. The damages are less and the costs are cheaper. Such a pathetic joke and the whole world is watching as the internet also functions outside Thailand! What a comparison to the mushroom pickers, the couple who stole three coconuts in Phattalung or the tourist feeding fish in open water with food sold by the boat boy - go figure! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 what a disgusting fat slob.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Classic Ray Posted March 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2018 Why do criminal investigations have to be carried out in the glare of publicity here? They should have all been arrested and kept separately, whilst the forensic evidence was collected at the crime scene. They should then all have been interviewed separately under caution, to gather initial explanations, until the forensic evidence had been analysed. Then they could have been interviewed again before being charged, and sent to court. Press conference reserved until after a fair trial. Thats how it is done in the real world. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, Classic Ray said: Why do criminal investigations have to be carried out in the glare of publicity here? They should have all been arrested and kept separately, whilst the forensic evidence was collected at the crime scene. They should then all have been interviewed separately under caution, to gather initial explanations, until the forensic evidence had been analysed. Then they could have been interviewed again before being charged, and sent to court. Press conference reserved until after a fair trial. That's how it is done in the real world. " . . . in the real world." There's your answer . . . the Royal Thai Police force is as far removed from the real world as it's possible to be and that is almost certainly due to the ever growing level of corruption, dodgy dealings and 'fixed' recruiting that is now endemic to the entire force - 'force', how's that for an oxymoron? - from the top, down. Sorting the RTP will be the biggest challenge of all to the next government . . . the next corruption-free government, that is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ossy said: " . . . in the real world." There's your answer . . . the Royal Thai Police force is as far removed from the real world as it's possible to be and that is almost certainly due to the ever growing level of corruption, dodgy dealings and 'fixed' recruiting that is now endemic to the entire force - 'force', how's that for an oxymoron? - from the top, down. Sorting the RTP will be the biggest challenge of all to the next government . . . the next corruption-free government, that is. I thought that was a junta promise but ended up with the fox watching the hen house so to speak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Valentine said: I thought that was a junta promise but ended up with the fox watching the hen house so to speak. I think the postman's put your post through the wrong letter box, since neither CR nor I mentioned 'junta promise'. Intended in response to another thread, maybe . . . sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilacme Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I would hazard a guess that this guy going to abscond leaving officials shrugging their shoulders saying "what can we doooo". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Classic Ray said: Thats how it is done in the real world. Thailand is the Land of Shadows (LOS) where illusion is more important than reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Are these all his private weapons on the table in the last picture? [emoji44] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Ossy said: To reassure the public about what, for Christ's sake? . . . That the black leopard is definitely dead and that it seems like it was that dastardly rascal, Premchai, that gone an' dun it. The public must be champing at the bit to know this stuff. Hey, wait, it was a normal tiger with hair dyed black. no charges needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Time to bring "The Force" down on Jabba The Smut! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Time to bring "The Force" down on Jabba The Smut! May the Schwartz be with you [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 13 hours ago, worgeordie said: It looks like the Cook or maybe driver are been set up to be the fall guy... Thai criminal investigation training ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 17 hours ago, Ossy said: I think the postman's put your post through the wrong letter box, since neither CR nor I mentioned 'junta promise'. Intended in response to another thread, maybe . . . sorry! You mentioned sorting out the the RTP which is what I referred to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 That picture of him tells the whole story , a fat , probably drunk man with lots of guns around him. I'm surprised he didn't kill anyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 On 01/03/2018 at 11:33 AM, Valentine said: I thought that was a junta promise but ended up with the fox watching the hen house so to speak. Gotcha, finally, V . . . took a while for the penny to drop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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