Russian cuisine - need help finding a specific meal

[FarangFB]

I'm trying to find a specific Russian (I think) dish. If you know where they sell it or some restaurant that could take a specific order I'd be very thankful.

 

Please save yourself the trouble if you're going to just name random Russian restaurants that could maybe have the dish just because they're Russian.

 

The dish is a type of dumpling, the name could be Vareniki, Pelmeni or Pierogi. The one I'm looking for is filled with potato and cheese, with a tad of paprika and most importantly the sauce that comes with it is a delicious mixture that includes caramelised onions and bacon.

 

I've already tried the Russian market in Phratamnak Soi 6 and the restaurant 8 horseshoes and they don't have this one. I am not looking for the boring pale dumpling with just potato inside and a white cream for a sauce. I want the tasty one.

 

This is the photo that best represents the version I'm looking for:

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

Good luck with that.

I've certainly never seen that on a Russian menu here.If I were you, I would try to get a place to make it for you as a custom dish, ordered in advance.

 

I think Ukraine Restaurant has all the ingredients. 

 

They do orders in advance for some of their menu items so it wouldn't be that weird to ask them.

 

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293919-d6893208-Reviews-Restaurant_Ukraine-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html

[The manic]

You can the food you mention in A, Russian Restaurant on the 5the Floor of Central festival. In general many of the restaurants around cozy beach do the very common dishes you mention.  Dome you can buy pre prepared in in Supermarkets such as foodmart near Threppasit.  There are also numerous restaurants selling the food you mention on the Soi that connects Thaypraya to The Pattaya Park tower including Ukrainian restaurants. 

[champers]

A nice photo.There should be more pictures on here of tasty Russian dumplings.

[petermik]

7 hours ago, champers said:

A nice photo.There should be more pictures on here of tasty Russian dumplings.

I much prefer the leaner and sweeter variety..........

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, The manic said:

You can the food you mention in A, Russian Restaurant on the 5the Floor of Central festival. In general many of the restaurants around cozy beach do the very common dishes you mention.  Dome you can buy pre prepared in in Supermarkets such as foodmart near Threppasit.  There are also numerous restaurants selling the food you mention on the Soi that connects Thaypraya to The Pattaya Park tower including Ukrainian restaurants. 

The specific dish preparation he's asking for is not easy to find here. You're thinking about the standard preparation of the dumplings, which yes would be available at most any Russian restaurant. 

[pegman]

They are very popular in the neck of the woods I come from. The best are sold from Ukrainian churches which put out a ton of them every week. I've had my eyes open looking for them in Pattaya or BKK for years but have yet to come across a single Perogey. I think I'll just make my own. They are terrific deep fried with fried onion, bacon bits and sour creàm. Let us know if you find any please.

[The manic]

2 minutes ago, pegman said:

They are very popular in the neck of the woods I come from. The best are sold from Ukrainian churches which put out a ton of them every week. I've had my eyes open looking for them in Pattaya or BKK for years but have yet to come across a single Perogey. I think I'll just make my own. They are terrific deep fried with fried onion, bacon bits and sour creàm. Let us know if you find any please.

Perogey or Perogies and Bilinis can be found in the Russian restaurant in Central Festival and plenty of other places where the Russian and Ukrainian communities eat. 

[The manic]

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The specific dish preparation he's asking for is not easy to find here. You're thinking about the standard preparation of the dumplings, which yes would be available at most any Russian restaurant. 

Have you checked them? 

[Jingthing]

Just now, The manic said:

Have you checked them? 

Not all of them, no.

He's asking for a specific lead on a specific, hard to find, dish.

You haven't provided that.

I haven't either but I do think that the restaurant I mentioned MIGHT be able to do the dish on special order.

 

Cheers. 

[FarangFB]

Thanks for the replies, I'll give it a try at the Ukranian restaurant first. If that fails I'll check the one at Central. 

 

If I find it I'll let you know.

[NanLaew]

Yes, pierogi's are Ukrainian and different from bland, Russian dumplings. I only ever had them once (and I ate a load of them)... at an Orthodox church festival in Saskatoon!

 

Do post if you find anything that comes close in Pattaya.

[ardokano]

17 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Yes, pierogi's are Ukrainian and different from bland, Russian dumplings. I only ever had them once (and I ate a load of them)... at an Orthodox church festival in Saskatoon!

 

Do post if you find anything that comes close in Pattaya.

Pierogi its not dumplings  it's Pie.

 And pierogi its Russian Dish.

 Vareniki with potato's its Ukrainian dish and its daplings. Pelmeni its Russian dish.

 I sure eat vareniki with potato Near cosy beach restaurant. Near one week I be in cosy beach. So remain my self what restaurant. And  tell ... If you guys need it:)

[Jingthing]

Excuse me but the OP was clear. He wasn't only looking for basic versions of these pasta/dumpling type of Russian/Ukrainian dishes. He was looking for a very specific recipe (filled with BOTH potato AND cheese, not only potato or cheese) and specific saucing. The basic ones (usually served with sour cream or in a broth) are widely available. That was not his question. 

[ardokano]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Excuse me but the OP was clear. He wasn't only looking for basic versions of these pasta/dumpling type of Russian/Ukrainian dishes. He was looking for a very specific recipe and saucing. The basic ones are widely available. That wasn't his question. 

On pic simple vareniki. Its dumplings with potato.. Can be only potato. Potato with mushroom s or potato with cheese , with cheese its kind new thinks. Not traditional .. So what's why not many have it. Even in Ukraine or Russian not many restaurant had it.

[ardokano]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Excuse me but the OP was clear. He wasn't only looking for basic versions of these pasta/dumpling type of Russian/Ukrainian dishes. He was looking for a very specific recipe and saucing. The basic ones are widely available. That wasn't his question. 

Sourcing sure not specific. Its casual for dampings with potato's :)

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, ardokano said:

On pic simple vareniki. Its dumplings with potato.. Can be only potato. Potato with mushroom s or potato with cheese , with cheese its kind new thinks. Not traditional .. So what's why not many have it. Even in Ukraine or Russian not many restaurant had it.

Indeed. That's the point. He's looking for something unusual both in the dumping and  in the saucing. That's why I suggested he find a good restaurant and ask them to make a special order. In my experience the Ukraine Restaurant in Jomtien is a good (Russian and Ukraine food) restaurant but I have no idea if they'll agree to do his special unusual dish. 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, ardokano said:

Sourcing sure not specific. Its casual for dampings with potato's :)

Sorry, but we have a language issue here. Cheers. 

[Jingthing]

Info about what's the Difference Between Pelmeni, Vareniki and Pierogi?

 

https://theculturetrip.com/europe/russia/articles/whats-the-difference-between-pelmeni-vareniki-and-pierogi/

 

 

 

 

[ardokano]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Info about what's the Difference Between Pelmeni, Vareniki and Pierogi?

 

https://theculturetrip.com/europe/russia/articles/whats-the-difference-between-pelmeni-vareniki-and-pierogi/

 

 

 

 

If some writing even in internet stupid. Its not mean its true. No need share stupid thinks. Pierogi and vareniki its not similar as say in your link...

 Again pierogi it PIES!!! Vareniki its dumplings!!!

 

 This is pic pierogi!!! 

Its look same as dumplings??? :))

[Jingthing]

39 minutes ago, ardokano said:

If some writing even in internet stupid. Its not mean its true. No need share stupid thinks. Pierogi and vareniki its not similar as say in your link...

 Again pierogi it PIES!!! Vareniki its dumplings!!!

 

 This is pic pierogi!!! 

Its look same as dumplings??? :))

It is pies to Russians. The link explains it's not pies to others. Not everyone is Russian. The link is not stupid. Your extremely over the top reaction to the fact that a word means different things to other nationalities is the stupid thing here. Again perhaps your English language skill level makes it hard for you to understand what the link is saying. It doesn't really matter though in the context of this thread. We know the O.P. is not looking for pies.

[ardokano]

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It is pies to Russians. The link explains it's not pies to others. Not everyone is Russian. The link is not stupid. Your extremely over the top reaction to the fact that a word means different things to other nationalities is the stupid thing here. Again perhaps your English language skill level makes it hard for you to understand what the link is saying. It doesn't really matter though in the context of this thread. We know the O.P. is not looking for pies.

Again. Pierogi  its Russian/Ukrainian word. So Pierogi its PIES!!! And yes its stupid thinks say to vareniki(its  also Russian/Ukrainian word) its pierogi... Its same as I come any Western restaurant and say  give me piazza or steaks its same. Is it?:)))

 Again link stupid...  I show you picters. Its look like a dumplings? Its not look like a pies??? :)))

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, ardokano said:

Again. Pierogi  its Russian/Ukrainian word. So Pierogi its PIES!!! And yes its stupid thinks say to vareniki(its  also Russian/Ukrainian word) its pierogi... Its same as I come any Western restaurant and say  give me piazza or stakes its same. Is it?:)))

 Again link stupid...  I show you picters. Its look like a dumplings? Its not look like a pies??? :)))

Thanks for sharing. I'm done responding to your absurd posts. Bye.

[ardokano]

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Thanks for sharing. I'm done responding to your absurd posts. Bye.

Absurd post its your. When say pierogi and vareniki its same.. Please not say stupid thinks. Again pic I give not look like a pie?? For who NOT Russian its not pie on pic ? If any translator write пироги(pierogi) - its PIE!!!

[Jingthing]

Enjoy your Pierogies y'all!

Notice that this nice lady uses a MIX of potatoes and cheese in her Peirogies (dumplings) as the OP is seeking. She doesn't like bacon bits in the saucing though.

 

 

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, ardokano said:

Absurd post its your. When say pierogi and vareniki its same.. Please not say stupid thinks. Again pic I give not look like a pie?? For who NOT Russian its not pie on pic ? If any translator write пироги(pierogi) - its PIE!!!

 

OMG!!! Google is WRONG too!!!

 

 

Not a frickin' PIE in sight.

 

...but thanks for the language lessons.

[NanLaew]

52 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Enjoy your Pierogies y'all!

Notice that this nice lady uses a MIX of potatoes and cheese in her Peirogies (dumplings) as the OP is seeking. She doesn't like bacon bits in the saucing though.

 

 

Great find there Jt... unless someone comes back and says that these are Polish delicacies and not a Russian (or Ukranian) PIE.

[ardokano]

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Enjoy your Pierogies y'all!

Notice that this nice lady uses a MIX of potatoes and cheese in her Peirogies (dumplings) as the OP is seeking. She doesn't like bacon bits in the saucing though.

 

 

Men you really give some stupid way.

 Where we talking about Polish cuisine? :))) you really give some absurd thinks:)))

but where is the Polish cuisine? topic speaks about Russian cuisine. In Polish, pierOgi are dumplings. Russian language and Ukrainian language and cuisine pIerogi its PIE!!! Two different thinks. In Poland  when you order in a restaurant pierOgi give you dumplings. In Russia or Ukrain when you order in a restaurant you got PIE! :))

[ardokano]

5 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

OMG!!! Google is WRONG too!!!

 

 

Not a frickin' PIE in sight.

 

...but thanks for the language lessons.

Where is google say pierogi in Russian or Ukrainian cuisine is dumplings? Its Pie. And in Polish language yes its dishes kind dumplings :)

[ardokano]

5 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Great find there Jt... unless someone comes back and says that these are Polish delicacies and not a Russian (or Ukranian) PIE.

Its not Polish delicacies. Its normal polish dishes... And do you can not get easy thinks polish language can be different than Russian or Ukrainian?:)))