Taking natural mood stabilizers whilst living in Thailand

[ubonr1971]

I suffer from anxiety / mood swings and anger sometimes. I read this url re natural M.S:

 

https://www.naturalblaze.com/2013/10/13-of-most-effective-mood-stabilizers.html

 

Has anyone ever used these before. Which has worked for you?

 

I am trying to do more exercise and doing mindfulness meditation. 

 

Any comments are appreciated

[Peterw42]

I found St Johns wort to be a great natural anti-depressant. Highly recommended. Maybe not so much for anxiety but helps keep the black dog at bay.

Edited April 17, 2018 by Peterw42

[Justfine]

https://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/top-5-herbs-for-controlling-mood-swings/

[keithpa]

Forget pills. Its all in your mind. Change your thoughts. Read, eg. The power of positive Thinking, among others. Thats how I got over getting all upset reading some of the junk on here from the keyboard warriors. And then, I packed up and came back to Oz, giving it a year, if not happy, will move on. Dont stagnate, change "friends " if they upset you, etc. Today may  be the last day of your life, so, live today as if it is the last. (I dont mean cry in your

beer either).

[Justfine]

Just now, keithpa said:

Forget pills. Its all in your mind. Change your thoughts. Read, eg. The power of positive Thinking, among others. Thats how I got over getting all upset reading some of the junk on here from the keyboard warriors. And then, I packed up and came back to Oz, giving it a year, if not happy, will move on. Dont stagnate, change "friends " if they upset you, etc. Today may  be the last day of your life, so, live today as if it is the last. (I dont mean cry in your

beer either).

Not true. Diet has a major impact on moods, energy etc

 

 

[Justfine]

"Today may  be the last day of your life, so, live today as if it is the last"

 

People would be having sex with multiples or skydiving if they knew it was the last day

[jak2002003]

4 minutes ago, keithpa said:

Forget pills. Its all in your mind. Change your thoughts. Read, eg. The power of positive Thinking, among others. Thats how I got over getting all upset reading some of the junk on here from the keyboard warriors. And then, I packed up and came back to Oz, giving it a year, if not happy, will move on. Dont stagnate, change "friends " if they upset you, etc. Today may  be the last day of your life, so, live today as if it is the last. (I dont mean cry in your

beer either).

Agree.  OP... tackle the CAUSE of your mood swings, anxiety, etc not just take pills to cover it up.

 

Also never 'try' to do more exercise... actually DO IT.  The more you are out of the house in the fresh air, socialising and just walking about in the sunshine the better you will feel. 

 

And, exercise does not have to be running, going to the gym etc.  just a walk or cycle ride is enough.

Edited April 17, 2018 by jak2002003

[keithpa]

1 minute ago, Justfine said:

Not true. Diet has a major impact on moods, energy etc

 

 

False belief, wives tale. Start worrying about what you eat just gives you something else to get upset about. Dont argue with me, I no speak with forked tongue.

[Justfine]

Just now, keithpa said:

False belief, wives tale. Start worrying about what you eat just gives you something else to get upset about. Dont argue with me, I no speak with forked tongue.

Your comments are nonsense.

 

[keithpa]

1 minute ago, Justfine said:

"Today may  be the last day of your life, so, live today as if it is the last"

 

People would be having sex with multiples or skydiving if they knew it was the last day

Do it.

[Justfine]

https://blogs.biomedcentral.com/bmcseriesblog/2015/10/07/diet-mental-health-food-affect-mood/

[keithpa]

Just now, Justfine said:

Your comments are nonsense.

 

I have a Doctorate in Psychology and psychiatry, specialising  in mood swings,depression , anxiety etc, 50 year in practice. 

[Justfine]

2 minutes ago, keithpa said:

Do it.

Yeah sure. Or drink $30,000 rum.

 

 

[Justfine]

Just now, keithpa said:

I have a Doctorate in Psychology and psychiatry, specialising  in mood swings,depression , anxiety etc, 50 year in practice. 

Rubbish.

[Justfine]

 

 

https://nypost.com/2017/12/12/what-you-eat-affects-your-mood-scientists-say/

Edited April 17, 2018 by Justfine

[keithpa]

6 minutes ago, Justfine said:

 

 

https://nypost.com/2017/12/12/what-you-eat-affects-your-mood-scientists-say/

If that is what you believe, why are you so depressing then?  And, in keeping with my advise, I;m not reading anymore on this topic, too many depressing comments. Off to Cottesloe for a swim in our crystal clear ocean , West Oz. Bye.

[jak2002003]

8 minutes ago, Justfine said:

 

 

https://nypost.com/2017/12/12/what-you-eat-affects-your-mood-scientists-say/

Totally rubbish article... and not a single reference to any research by the 'scientists'.

 

Even reading it, it contradicts itself and is misleading.  

 

If this was written by a child at school they would get a FAIL.  

 

 

[Justfine]

Just now, keithpa said:

If that is what you believe, why are you so depressing then?  And, in keeping with my advise, I;m not reading anymore on this topic, too many depressing comments. Off to Cottesloe for a swim in our crystal clear ocean , West Oz. Bye.

Why make false claims?

Mountain of research on diet.

 

 

[Justfine]

Just now, jak2002003 said:

Totally rubbish article... and not a single reference to any research by the 'scientists'.

 

Even reading it, it contradicts itself and is misleading.  

 

If this was written by a child at school they would get a FAIL.  

 

 

Rubbish comments.

[Jools]

Thailand has been the finest mood stabilizer I have ever experienced. Very glad that I retired here.

[Justfine]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3796297/

 

 

[tso310]

28 minutes ago, Jools said:

Thailand has been the finest mood stabilizer I have ever experienced. Very glad that I retired here.

and gives you the daily exercise you need, I assume ?

[Justfine]

39 minutes ago, tso310 said:

and gives you the daily exercise you need, I assume ?

Then the money runs out

[swissie]

If science can "prove" one thing, then it's the fact that it is not known why some poeople are more prone to suffer from "mood-instability" than others. Likely a genetic thing (chemical imbalance in the brain and/or neuronal electric impulses not "firing" correctly?)

How to cure something that we know so little about?

Surely this will open the doors for a myriad of snake oil salesmen offering their potions (guaranteed to work).

I grew up in a simpler world. The village doctor used to prescribe: "Brew-up a tea with herbs. Make sure the alcohol content is at least 45 %. How the alcohol gets in there is not important". With the well meaning addition "work more and think less!" It was a simpler world back then.

Of course as long as we live in a world that gets crazier by the day, no wonder that more and more people suffer from conditions that we conveniantly call "unstable mood conditions".
Cheers.

[jak2002003]

47 minutes ago, The manic said:

It was also found to have negative side effects and as will all 'natural' medicines it does not mean it is safe. Opium is natural but can have negative side effects if misused. 

I find is amusing when people think if something is 'natural' is automatically healthy and has healing / health benefits.

 

Would they go out into the woods and eat a load of poisonous toadstools?  After all they would be organic, free range, none GM and have no pesticides or fertilizers on them.

 

 

 

 

[swissie]

45 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

I find is amusing when people think if something is 'natural' is automatically healthy and has healing / health benefits.

 

Would they go out into the woods and eat a load of poisonous toadstools?  After all they would be organic, free range, none GM and have no pesticides or fertilizers on them.

 

 

 

 

Todays Headline in my newspaper in Switzerland: Cabbage and Broccoli contain a large amount of cancer causing agents.  90% of laboratoty mice have died of cancer before their time.

To be on the safe side, I recommend Beer Chang for breakfast, dinner and souper.

Cheers.

[metisdead]

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[Justfine]

4 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

I find is amusing when people think if something is 'natural' is automatically healthy and has healing / health benefits.

 

Would they go out into the woods and eat a load of poisonous toadstools?  After all they would be organic, free range, none GM and have no pesticides or fertilizers on them.

 

 

 

 

Research shows some things are harmful and some things beneficial.

 

That's why you look at research.

 

 

[jak2002003]

5 hours ago, Justfine said:

Research shows some things are harmful and some things beneficial.

 

That's why you look at research.

 

 

And one year they will tell you not to eat something as its really bad for your health... then a few years later they are saying the research as shown that that think is really a super food (which later they change to say there are no super foods) and it goes round and round.  

 

Eat a balanced diet with lots of variety.  Don't over eat a few particular kinds of foods for either their taste or for supposed health benefits.  Can't go wrong that way.  

[Jools]

18 hours ago, Justfine said:

Then the money runs out

Retirement funds do not run out unless the United States economy totally crashes. In that case, there is always suicide.