Questions About Qualifications

[bangkokburning]

What is the minimum starting salary that someone like myself should expect in BKK from public scoll and uni/college forn2013?

How many hours and office hours?

52yo, male, 20yrs in/out of Asia.

Married to Thai office worker

BA from top 100 uni in USA with honors

Substitute teaching credential (expired), five yrs

One year total (2 schools), Korea 1996-7 (should this even be noted as it is so long ago?)

On one year O visa and wish to remain as such★

[aidenai]

What is the minimum starting salary that someone like myself should expect in BKK from public scoll and uni/college forn2013?

How many hours and office hours?

Public schools; 18-22 contact hours, 40 hours on the premises, 30-35 k.

Public universities: 15 contact hours max, 40 hours on the premises, 20+8 k

[bangkokburning]

Thanks, how is this negotiated? They tell you what they are paying or is there any (a lot) of back and forth?

Is the 20+8? 20-28k? Sorry, I'm not understanding this.

Public universities - lots of office hours no?

Should I consider those to be standard packages/salary and any fewer office hours just lucky for me?

I had read best time to look for work was month of October?

Many thanks.

Edited December 21, 2012 by bangkokburning

[aidenai]

20 k salary and 8 k housing allowance.

For some schools the salary and office hours are negotiable. My figures are only an indication. If you would land a job at a government English Program school, your salary would go to 35-45 k.

K12 academic years run from half May till October and from November until March. Best time for job hunting is March/ April/ May.

[bangkokburning]

Thanks. You are always a great help.

[30sLad]

quick question.... does a ba degree need to have honours in order to get a wp?

thanks in advance

[Scott]

A Bachelor's Degree only needs to be a Bachelor's degree. How poorly or how well you did is less important as is the subject you studied.

[30sLad]

Thanks Scott

I have done part of a degree and can make this a fuill degree with an open university (open degree) course.

With honours would mean me having to do an extra module in order earn an extra 60 points.

So i'm nearer to a degree than I thought.

[rahrah]

hello all,

i'm a tad lost on the application process after reading through the pages. Can someone please guide me through?

also, here are some basic info on my qualifications:

i'm 25 from singapore.

i have a BA in psychology from james cook university.

nearing 2 years of working experience in a government school in singapore and currently still employed by the ministry.

specialist diploma in teaching and learning of the english language, accredited and sponsored by ministry of education singapore.

i also did a 3-year diploma in chinese studies.

base on this, i'm wondering if i should apply to teach english in a public school or chinese in an international school in thailand.

[Scott]

You are going to have to put your resume out there and see what you can get. You may be able to get a job teaching something such as Social Studies in a bilingual school or an English Program. Depending on the grade, you could teach a lot of different subjects.

You will need to get a TOEIC because you do not come from a country listed as an English speaking country. If you have some other English Language proficiency test, you can use that.

Chinese would be an excellent option for you.

[rahrah]

You are going to have to put your resume out there and see what you can get. You may be able to get a job teaching something such as Social Studies in a bilingual school or an English Program. Depending on the grade, you could teach a lot of different subjects.

You will need to get a TOEIC because you do not come from a country listed as an English speaking country. If you have some other English Language proficiency test, you can use that.

Chinese would be an excellent option for you.

You are going to have to put your resume out there and see what you can get. You may be able to get a job teaching something such as Social Studies in a bilingual school or an English Program. Depending on the grade, you could teach a lot of different subjects.

You will need to get a TOEIC because you do not come from a country listed as an English speaking country. If you have some other English Language proficiency test, you can use that.

Chinese would be an excellent option for you.

Hi Scott,

Thanks for the reply. Any idea where is the best place to post my resume?

I teach students from the ages of 13 to 17. And I did Cambridge 'O' Level English, not sure if this will be considered as a proficiency test.

And, I find it weird that Singapore is not listed as an English speaking country, considering that our first language and teaching medium in school is actually in English.

Edited February 4, 2013 by rahrah

[Scott]

There are the countries that are listed as English-speaking, if I recall correctly: UK, Ireland, Canada, USA, New Zealand and Australia. South Africa was recently taken off the list.

There is a website called ajarn.com that lists a lot of jobs and where you can post your resume. I believe there is a charge for people to see your resume, so it's better to look through the job openings and send it to potential employers. It might be worth putting your resume in this section of thaivisa: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/116-job-wanted-in-thailand-hire-me/ .

Best of luck.

[shawndoc]

Ok, time for me to post my repetitive questions. ;-) I'm planning ahead for an eventual retirement to Thailand with my wife (Thai national, US Permanent Resident). Just getting an idea what I should be doing today, to get me ready for a English job in Thailand when I decide to retire. I understand requirements may change vastly between now and then, but let's just go with what they are today since that's all that can be known.

I am an American.

I have a BS degree in Business from an accredited US based University.

- Does this mean no further degree is required? No separate teaching/education endorsement required?

Is TEFL the certification to get? Is there a better one? When looking online many of the schools warn that some countries prefer TEFL certifications from different institutions. Any suggestions on how to select the school/program? Would be done stateside.

Anything else I should be working on now to make me more attractive to a Thai HR person?

Edited February 5, 2013 by shawndoc

[Scott]

You might want to start taking the courses needed to be eligible for a Bachelor's in Education.

[aidenai]

I am an American.

I have a BS degree in Business from an accredited US based University.

- Does this mean no further degree is required? No separate teaching/education endorsement required?

The majority of educational institutions in Thailand are basic education schools. i.e. Schools that provide education in Kindergarten up to Grade 12. It has become law in 2003 but enforced as of 2006 that teachers, both Thai and foreign, must hold a degree in education or equivalent when working in basic education.

More information can be found here: http://www.ksp.or.th...ha/en/index.php

Edited February 7, 2013 by aidenai

[shawndoc]

I am an American.

I have a BS degree in Business from an accredited US based University.

- Does this mean no further degree is required? No separate teaching/education endorsement required?

The majority of educational institutions in Thailand are basic education schools. i.e. Schools that provide education in Kindergarten up to Grade 12. It has become law in 2003 but enforced as of 2006 that teachers, both Thai and foreign, must hold a degree in education or equivalent when working in basic education.

More information can be found here: http://www.ksp.or.th...ha/en/index.php

So you are saying my current degree is worthless as far as teaching goes and I would need to get a new degree in education? Otherwise I assume I'm competing to work in evening schools and the like?

(tried your link, but it was all PDFs, will have to check it later from a PC)

[Scott]

You can teach. The school will need to apply for a waiver/provisional teacher's license on your behalf and over time you will have to demonstrate that you are working toward either getting your degree 'upgraded' to an education qualification or you must pass a series of exams set by the Teacher's Council of Thailand.

[shawndoc]

Thanks Scott.

[BeeNox]

Hi all !!!

Im 24 years old non-native English speaker!

I have a master degree of Economics, and master degree in English (interpreter).

I am thinking about teaching in Thai...But i don't have teaching exp.

I wanna teach English language !

About English... i dont have any certificates...only diploma!

Should i go to the TEFL courses?

What are the chances of me to get a job teaching in Thailand?

Should i transcript all my diplomas?

Edited February 18, 2013 by BeeNox

[Scott]

You could probably teach English, but I would strongly suggest you take a TEFL course. You will need to take an English Language proficiency exam, such as the TOEIC. You will need a copy of your University Degree and transcripts and they will need to be translated.

You salary and where you might get hired depends on a number of things, including your country of origin.

[BeeNox]

You could probably teach English, but I would strongly suggest you take a TEFL course. You will need to take an English Language proficiency exam, such as the TOEIC. You will need a copy of your University Degree and transcripts and they will need to be translated.

You salary and where you might get hired depends on a number of things, including your country of origin.

Thank you Scott

I should translate it to Thai or English or both languages?

Ofcourse i will take a TELF course face-to-face. But really should i take TOEIC? Maybe TELF is enough...!?

[tigerkearns]

First of all it is TEFL.. You normally need a degree to go with it. I myself do not possess a degree, so l have done peadatric first aid course certificates endorsed by both the UK and north American education governing bodies. I also have taught in Malaysia, UK and Algeria. The TEFL market is more competitive than a few years ago.

Good luck..

Edited February 19, 2013 by Scott

[Phatcharanan]

But really should i take TOEIC? Maybe TELF is enough...!?

If you are not a native English speaker from one of the following countries, USA, UK, Australia, NZ , Ireland and Canada, then yes, you need to take the TOEIC as well.

[ragamuffin]

- German

- female

- 31 years old

- English and Social Studies teaching degree (Germany)

- Currently at Chula for research on my M.A. thesis --> will be holding an M.A. in English education (obtained in Germany) soon

- phuut phasaa Thai neetnoy

In case I was looking for a teaching job, what could I expect?

[Morakot]

- German

- female

- 31 years old

- English and Social Studies teaching degree (Germany)

- Currently at Chula for research on my M.A. thesis --> will be holding an M.A. in English education (obtained in Germany) soon

- phuut phasaa Thai neetnoy

In case I was looking for a teaching job, what could I expect?

Teaching whom, what, where?

[ragamuffin]

Umm, "my" subjects to students in Thailand? What are my options with above-mentioned qualifications? Any restrictions? If so, which?

[Morakot]

Umm, "my" subjects to students in Thailand? What are my options with above-mentioned qualifications? Any restrictions? If so, which?

Is you qualification a specific degree for teachers? Something like Master of Arts in Education, Master of Education, or the German state qualification "Staatsexamen" for teachers? I suppose that could be accredited here for teaching in schools. If not you might have to have to obtain a TEFL certificate if you want to teach English as a foreign language.

Edited February 19, 2013 by Morakot

[ragamuffin]

Staatsexamen, specific teaching degree, yes. Only the first part, though, before the two-year traineeship one needs for German public schools. We sit a second Staatsexamen in case we decide to do the trainee part. Without it I can work at private schools.

Plus an M.A. in English Education (major) and English Literature and Education Studies (minors).

[Morakot]

Raga, I'm sure these two degrees are sufficient.

I think the salary really depends on the type of school you would work for. Have a look through this thread and others in this forum; you can see a broad range from 20K -- 100K depending on in institutions and contracts.

Edited February 19, 2013 by Morakot

[Scott]

If you apply for schools in and around the Bangkok area, you should have no problem in finding a job. Women are in demand as teachers in Thailand and if you are willing to teach KG, you will likely not even leave the interview without having a firm offer.

You should get about 35,000 - 40,000 per month at most schools, depending on other benefits such as housing etc. If you take your time and look around, you may well get more.