Straight men have a lot of gay sex, study shows

[StevieAus]

3 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Nothing particularly revelationary about this Pink piece. Numerous surveys have shown that many, if not most, men who identify as heterosexual have a sexual experience with another man at some time in their lives. The same goes for women, only more so.

 

Such activity is hardly surprising. How else can an individual discover where they stand on the spectrum of human sexual activity, with all that implies in terms of having lasting, committed relationships?

 

The author of one of the studies cited the Pink article, Ritch C. Savin-Williams, has written extensively in support of his conviction that nobody is one hundred percent heterosexual, including this fascinating Time magazine article:

 

http://time.com/5026092/mostly-straight-sexual-identity-bisexual-gay/

 Not this one and never will.

[Craig krup]

As Ted said to Johnny, "There are no chicks with d**ks, just guys with.."
 

 

[bhatmasterson]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I don't think it's that simple.

If I went out and had sex with a woman tonight, I would still be gay. 

But would you want to? I think is the question.

 

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Nothing particularly revelationary about this Pink piece. Numerous surveys have shown that many, if not most, men who identify as heterosexual have a sexual experience with another man at some time in their lives. The same goes for women, only more so.

 

Such activity is hardly surprising. How else can an individual discover where they stand on the spectrum of human sexual activity, with all that implies in terms of having lasting, committed relationships?

 

The author of one of the studies cited the Pink article, Ritch C. Savin-Williams, has written extensively in support of his conviction that nobody is one hundred percent heterosexual, including this fascinating Time magazine article:

 

http://time.com/5026092/mostly-straight-sexual-identity-bisexual-gay/

 "nobody is one hundred percent heterosexual",  I am, guaranteed.

[Oxx]

10 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

 "nobody is one hundred percent heterosexual",  I am, guaranteed.

 

You just haven't met the right guy yet.  Give it time.  It might happen.

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

 "nobody is one hundred percent heterosexual",  I am, guaranteed.

I know where you're coming from on the other team. My Mama didn't need a C section but other than that I'm totally "pure".

 

 

Edited May 1, 2018 by Jingthing

[saakura]

5 hours ago, irwinfc said:

the pictures in the article were very disturbing for me. different strokes for different folks, i guess.

The lesbians kissing....well i found them very erotic & exciting. The other pics, i did not look at them.

[Benmart]

Hardly newsworthy. 

[onthemoon]

3 hours ago, BuaBS said:

Mmm , Scott cruising a gay news site like pinknews.co.uk . What does that say about Scott ?

Hmm, you being interested in a subject and posting in the Gay Forum. Would that say anything about you? :-)

[onthemoon]

3 hours ago, AsiaHand said:

They are NOT STRIGHT they ARE GAY. When you suck on that thing or get poked with it in the butt,YOU are GAY.

Right. And when a gay man has a sexual experience with a woman, he is straight. I think this has already been clarified.

 

But it's OK. You can be whatever you like.

[onthemoon]

4 hours ago, Songlaw said:

While it is true that I personalized my comment for the sake of brevity, I was not using myself exclusively as the sample. The aversion is hormonal, not emotional. For example, I can kiss a gay man in greeting, as long as the implication is platonic. I worked for years alongside gay males during the initial stages of the HIV/AIDS epidemic in the US and kissing on the lips was fairly commonplace. And there is nothing in my upbringing that would psychologically preclude me from having a sexual attraction to same-sex individuals. It is not a cognitive reaction that I am referring to. It is a visceral reaction that would make the encounter impossible. And I don't think Stanley Kubrick could possibly offer much by way of explanation for issues not related to film, though I could be wrong on that point.

 

Edit: You said to read the book, not watch the movie. My apologies, though I am dubious that Anthony Burgess would be of much additional benefit, in this regard. An interesting source of support for an argument, just the same. Take care.

Glad you found the reference to Anthony Burgess.

 

It is still you personally, and many straight men do not have the reaction you experience. OK, there will be other straight guys who feel like you, but there is no way you can generalise it.

 

And there are even gay guys who have been intimate with women, imagine that. Some of them have been so intimate with women that they become fathers.

 

The world is so diverse ...

[cyberfarang]

8 hours ago, MaeJoMTB said:

 

News Flash ..... they ain't straight.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Exactly. If a man has sex with another man, even just one time, then he is gay or bi-sexual.

 

Here`s the strange part. Men that like ladyboys don`t consider themselves as gay. I beg to differ.

[BuaBS]

1 hour ago, onthemoon said:

Hmm, you being interested in a subject and posting in the Gay Forum. Would that say anything about you? :-)

This was one of the topics in the daily TV email. I didn't realize it was on the gay forum.

This topic could just as well been posted somewhere else .

If I were gay , I would say it . I can't even watch gay porn or shemale porn.

[Jingthing]

25 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

Took the words right out of my mouth. Exactly. If a man has sex with another man, even just one time, then he is gay or bi-sexual.

 

Here`s the strange part. Men that like ladyboys don`t consider themselves as gay. I beg to differ.

Bizarre and extremist POV. 
Your theory reminds me of people that think people with one percent African blood are African.

As I said before most of the adult gay men I've met have had some sex with women and don't think they are bi. I trust them. Not you. 

Yes, the majority of men into ladyboys identify as straight. Gay men are into dudes. Why would many of them go for people that present as women? 

[Krataiboy]

23 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

Here`s the strange part. Men that like ladyboys don`t consider themselves as gay. I beg to differ.

 

Some ladyboys are transvestites - men who enjoy dressing in women's clothing. Others identify as trans women, whether or not they have had hormone treatment or surgery.

 

Trans activists argue that to NOT want sex with a trans woman is transphobic.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

...

 

Trans activists argue that to NOT want sex with a trans woman is transphobic.

Do they REALLY? Then I'm transphobic. Thanks for letting me know! 

[cyberfarang]

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Bizarre and extremist POV. 
Your theory reminds me of people that think people with one percent African blood are African.

As I said before most of the adult gay men I've met have had some sex with women and don't think they are bi. I trust them. Not you. 

Yes, the majority of men into ladyboys identify as straight. Gay men are into dudes. Why would many of them go for people that present as women? 

I fail to understand what you`re ranting on about.

 

It`s not a theory, this is fact. If a person, male or female like to dabble with both sexes, than that makes him/her bi. 

 

Men that go with pre-op ladyboys and still claim to be heterosexual are living a miscomprehension. They try to convince themselves and others that if going with a guy that dresses like a woman and tries to act like a woman, is a woman. Sorry, but this is not the case, in-fact what they`re trying to do is cover up their gayness with pretence. There is no logic in your argument.

[Jingthing]

38 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

I fail to understand what you`re ranting on about.

 

It`s not a theory, this is fact. If a person, male or female like to dabble with both sexes, than that makes him/her bi. 

 

Men that go with pre-op ladyboys and still claim to be heterosexual are living a miscomprehension. They try to convince themselves and others that if going with a guy that dresses like a woman and tries to act like a woman, is a woman. Sorry, but this is not the case, in-fact what they`re trying to do is cover up their gayness with pretence. There is no logic in your argument.

You're obsessed with labeling other people. What's most important is how people identify themselves. There are people that are truly bisexual, they usually know that themselves, but not everyone that has had sex sometime in their lives with both sexes is bisexual. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

 

There are times where it's important to know about genders of sex partners regardless of labeling. Such as the category MSM (Men that have sex with men). This is something medical professionals are concerned about because there are specific health risks with that. But just being a MSM in a recent time frame doesn't mean the person either is gay or bi or identifies as gay or bi for life. For examples, prison environments, gay for pay, short term fluidity, etc.

Edited May 1, 2018 by Jingthing

[Captor]

Are there any muslims in the survey? The muslims all had sexual relations with other guys before they marry a woman their parents or family have chose. They all have had a sexual relation before marry due to religion.I would say 95-100%. I have been in the middle east for some time during my military service so I know it is true.

[steven2018]

Right. And when a gay man has a sexual experience with a woman, he is straight. I think this has already been clarified.
 
But it's OK. You can be whatever you like.

He must be drunk.

[Craig krup]

You build massive companies, providing jobs for thousands, but do they call you a great industrialist? No.

 

You give millions to charity, helping the poor and dispossessed, but do they call you a great philanthropist? No.

 

But you suck one little...

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

14 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Seems proven by the straight mans' fascination with ladyboys.
 

 

This is not my area of expertise. But I think generally speaking, men who are interested in gay sex aren't typically seeking out ladyboys. Because guys interested in gay sex typically are going to be attracted to other men, more than other men pretending to be/presenting as women.

Edited May 1, 2018 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[cyberfarang]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You're obsessed with labeling other people. What's most important is how people identify themselves. There are people that are truly bisexual, they usually know that themselves, but not everyone that has had sex sometime in their lives with both sexes is bisexual. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

 

There are times where it's important to know about genders of sex partners regardless of labeling. Such as the category MSM (Men that have sex with men). This is something medical professionals are concerned about because there are specific health risks with that. But just being a MSM in a recent time frame doesn't mean the person either is gay or bi or identifies as gay or bi for life. For examples, prison environments, gay for pay, short term fluidity, etc.

These people can identify themselves anyway they wish,  but a person who has sexual attraction to both men and women is Bi.

 

I`m a guy, well, was when I woke up this morning, am not sexually attracted to other men, whether they are in ladyboy form or any shape or forms. If I did feel sexually attracted to other men, then that makes me a Bi-guy, even if I tried to convince myself I am not. And I`ll argue this to the cows come home.

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

These people can identify themselves anyway they wish,  but a person who has sexual attraction to both men and women is Bi.

 

I`m a guy, well, was when I woke up this morning, am not sexually attracted to other men, whether they are in ladyboy form or any shape or forms. If I did feel sexually attracted to other men, then that makes me a Bi-guy, even if I tried to convince myself I am not. And I`ll argue this to the cows come home.

Aha. So it sounds like it's all about you and your personal experience. Aggressively and narrowly totally straight. That's fine. But you are not all of humanity. 

 

Also please keep cows, goats, and sheep out of this. Discussions of human sexuality are complicated enough already. 

Edited May 1, 2018 by Jingthing

[ChiangMaiLightning2143]

[jacko45k]

Undergraduate students are hardly men yet never mind having clarified if they are straight or not.

[Scott]

14 hours ago, BuaBS said:

Mmm , Scott cruising a gay news site like pinknews.co.uk . What does that say about Scott ?

Just finding something to entertain you, BuaBS!  

[Chou Anou]

16 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

may wish to hit up the op as he seems to be interested in gay sex experience

Um...you're new here, aren't you? Learn who's who and what's what before you open your big <deleted> mouth.

[Scott]

1 minute ago, Chou Anou said:

Um...you're new here, aren't you? Learn who's who and what's what before you open your big <deleted> mouth.

Now let's be nice.  

 

It appears some people are willing to open their mouth for more than just talking!

 

[Songlaw]

11 hours ago, onthemoon said:

Glad you found the reference to Anthony Burgess.

 

It is still you personally, and many straight men do not have the reaction you experience. OK, there will be other straight guys who feel like you, but there is no way you can generalise it.

 

And there are even gay guys who have been intimate with women, imagine that. Some of them have been so intimate with women that they become fathers.

 

The world is so diverse ...

Correct. Straight guys will agree. Gay and bisexual men won’t. You are using non-hetero males in all your examples. Yes, the world is diverse. However, heterosexual males, by definition, are not. And I have already explained that the implied sample includes all neurotypical, heterosexual males. Not just me.