Thai husband refusing to divorce

[Gracas]

OP - While your discussing this with your GF you might also want to ask her how much Sin Sod did this prince pay ?

I'm guessing he paid nothing. Something you may want to remember should the subject of marriage come up in the future.

As has been said, Why does she want a divorce ? If not to marry you or someone else. Also was it a registered marriage ?

[hanuman2543]

6 minutes ago, Gracas said:

OP - While your discussing this with your GF you might also want to ask her how much Sin Sod did this prince pay ?

I'm guessing he paid nothing. Something you may want to remember should the subject of marriage come up in the future.

As has been said, Why does she want a divorce ? If not to marry you or someone else. Also was it a registered marriage ?

If the marriage isn't registered there would be no need for a divorce. I never heard of a divorce of a village wedding. Do you?

[Gracas]

13 minutes ago, hanuman2543 said:

If the marriage isn't registered there would be no need for a divorce. I never heard of a divorce of a village wedding. Do you?

Yes correct. You need to question, is it or is it not registered. They could be asking for the 20K divorce money even if there is no registered marriage. Stranger things have happened in the past with others.

[BigC]

Make police reports every time he threatens you

 

dont have to have him arrested but you can use these reports to strengthen your case

 

tell the police if anything happens to her then the man is the number one suspect 

 

have to report straight after the incident and insist on having him tested for drugs

 

this is how a Thai on Thai would do things

 

she does have rights even as a foreigner 

 

then you can apply for divorce  via sending him a letter from the court

 

this can take time. If he doesn’t appear in court the case can go on without him

 

lawyer fees could be about 20,000 first payment then 10,000 to 20,000 for each time they go to court 

 

plus you may need a translator in the court 

 

if the girl is the mother she has full rights to the child. 

 

She shall have to be strong 

 

if she can she can employ a body guard or push security up with more cctv and move to a secure compound 

 

 

[BigC]

22 minutes ago, Gracas said:

Yes correct. You need to question, is it or is it not registered. They could be asking for the 20K divorce money even if there is no registered marriage. Stranger things have happened in the past with others.

Not registered sorry I didn’t read that bit

 

if not register then should take the kids and move 

[hanuman2543]

1 hour ago, Gracas said:

Yes correct. You need to question, is it or is it not registered. They could be asking for the 20K divorce money even if there is no registered marriage. Stranger things have happened in the past with others.

From the OP

 

"3 years ago she got pregnant after they’d finished but they agreed to marry in order to get some kind of benefit payment."

 

"What are the legal fees for a thai on thai contested divorce? "

 

Only a registered marriage can end in a contestet divorce.

 

Does this remove all doubts? 

 

 

 

 

[observer90210]

Not only don't get involved, but if possible, get a new girl. There are plenty of nice ones around, either on freehold or leasehold !!!...your choice

 

It can be a deadly mix of a Thai man kicked out by the missus, loss of face,  a sudden overflow of Mekhong on the rocks to end up with a a country made gun in his hands.  All this can cause you some dangerous trouble.

[tryasimight]

What is the little ones name? She got pregnant 3 years ago. You may very well be Dad if not father in the true sense.

 

Or troll in the other sense.

[Different]

So, a man bangs any lady then if gets pregnant she will be a wife.   Bastards world. lol

[hanuman2543]

1 minute ago, BigC said:

Are you a lawyer. I wasn’t giving advises to you. Look it’s late I have had a few I might have miss read some parts of the post. Please stop picking on me 

 

I already corrected some of what I wrote 

 

some of the advise can be used

 

my question is if it’s a Thai on thai disagreement why come on here 

 

why people turn to thai visa to get legal advise ???

 

let the Thais deal with it. 

 

If a Thai cannot get advise from another Thai and has to get a mate in a Forang forum to get advise then something isn’t right

It is my impression that the OP wants some advice on how to proceed.

Everybody Thai or Foreigner can go to the nearest courthouse.

Normally there is a lawyer present and can be asked for legal advise for free.

The Thai Civil and Commercial Code is available in Thai and English on the internet.

For Thais there are several Thai Law forums available too.

[Grauwulf]

Lack of op responding.....anyhoo my 10 baht...she has waaaay too much baggage and dangerous baggage at that. In a country of millions find another there are plenty out there. Don’t get hooked by the first dusky eyed girl who tells you..you are a hansum man....never overthink Thailand or Asia it’s just not the same...stay chilled and if it looks bad walk away....

[Scott]

Bickering posts reported and removed.  

[mettech]

Good luck and bring lot of money you will need it to support her and ex husband and maybe someone else a well.

[MyFriend You]

First, you're either a troll or so clueless about Thailand its sad.  Some points:

• You have a GF that has a husband that beats her, and threatens to kill her if she doesn't send her money and you do nothing about it - She should dump you.
• You want to stay with her because unlike others, she doesn't ask you for any money - Bizarre
• She gets pregnant by a guy after they broke up, then gets married to him to scam the Govt - You should dump her, just think how much you will lose in the long run if you stay with her.
• Legal fees, I have had two Thai divorces, cost me almost nothing, last thing you want is to pay a Thai Lawyer in a domestic dispute between two Thais.
• Get 20,000 Baht in stacks of 100 baht notes, It looks like a lot more than what it really is, meet him & her at the Amphur where they got married, make sure he sees the stacks of Yaa Baa money, he signs first, then hand over the stacks...........done deal.  Any further contact will be a crime on his part.
• Good Luck, can't wait for your next post.  Subject:  Yaa Baa ex-husband took son/daughter to home Village from GF, wants 1,000,000 baht or she will never see him/her again.
• Sincerely, go home or find another GF.

[inThailand]

Leave now, before we read your next post of why this made in heaven relationship failed or your fall from a balcony. 

[jacko45k]

17 hours ago, Alex Simmonds said:

True, won’t get involved at let her sort it.

 

She has a good job and earns a decent wage, never asks for a penny off me for anything, hence why I’d like to hang on to this one.

Isn't she asking for this 20,000 baht?

The girl hasn't got the sense not to let him in when he visits to beat her up, and succumbed to sex with him after the relationship had already broken up.

 

Sounds like a load of trouble to be avoided to me.

[wazzupnow]

16 hours ago, Justfine said:

20k baht isnt much. Either pay it or don't. Offer 10k or nothing.

 

Sometimes in life you have to make decisions.

start to pay him and it never ends, just hope he will be 1 of the 61 roadkills everyday this is your only chance

do not tangle with a jaba creap !

[wazzupnow]

12 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Isn't she asking for this 20,000 baht?

The girl hasn't got the sense not to let him in when he visits to beat her up, and succumbed to sex with him after the relationship had already broken up.

 

Sounds like a load of trouble to be avoided to me.

UR so right

[wazzupnow]

8 hours ago, BigC said:

Make police reports every time he threatens you

 

dont have to have him arrested but you can use these reports to strengthen your case

 

tell the police if anything happens to her then the man is the number one suspect 

 

have to report straight after the incident and insist on having him tested for drugs

 

this is how a Thai on Thai would do things

 

she does have rights even as a foreigner 

 

then you can apply for divorce  via sending him a letter from the court

 

this can take time. If he doesn’t appear in court the case can go on without him

 

lawyer fees could be about 20,000 first payment then 10,000 to 20,000 for each time they go to court 

 

plus you may need a translator in the court 

 

if the girl is the mother she has full rights to the child. 

 

She shall have to be strong 

 

if she can she can employ a body guard or push security up with more cctv and move to a secure compound 

 

 

pay any thai but not the alledeged husband

[Alex Simmonds]

1 hour ago, TunnelRat69 said:

First, you're either a troll or so clueless about Thailand its sad.  Some points:

• You have a GF that has a husband that beats her, and threatens to kill her if she doesn't send her money and you do nothing about it - She should dump you.
• You want to stay with her because unlike others, she doesn't ask you for any money - Bizarre
• She gets pregnant by a guy after they broke up, then gets married to him to scam the Govt - You should dump her, just think how much you will lose in the long run if you stay with her.
• Legal fees, I have had two Thai divorces, cost me almost nothing, last thing you want is to pay a Thai Lawyer in a domestic dispute between two Thais.
• Get 20,000 Baht in stacks of 100 baht notes, It looks like a lot more than what it really is, meet him & her at the Amphur where they got married, make sure he sees the stacks of Yaa Baa money, he signs first, then hand over the stacks...........done deal.  Any further contact will be a crime on his part.
• Good Luck, can't wait for your next post.  Subject:  Yaa Baa ex-husband took son/daughter to home Village from GF, wants 1,000,000 baht or she will never see him/her again.
• Sincerely, go home or find another GF.

I only found out a week ago about the registered marriage and him beating her. If I had facebook I would have known from the start.

 

I also have no intention of marrying her - I was just looking for advice on her helping her, and was interested if the process of divorce was easier/cheaper if it's a thai on thai marriage.

 

Anyway he's agreed to do it for free now as long as he has custody to see the kid every few months - who lives with her parents, 150km from we are.

 

People are right about her being too much baggage, I will probably look elsewhere.

 

+ no, i'm not going to 'go home' just because of this.

[Justfine]

7 minutes ago, Alex Simmonds said:

I only found out a week ago about the registered marriage and him beating her. If I had facebook I would have known from the start.

 

I also have no intention of marrying her - I was just looking for advice on her helping her, and was interested if the process of divorce was easier/cheaper if it's a thai on thai marriage.

 

Anyway he's agreed to do it for free now as long as he has custody to see the kid every few months - who lives with her parents, 150km from we are.

 

People are right about her being too much baggage, I will probably look elsewhere.

 

+ no, i'm not going to 'go home' just because of this.

Well you got people all fired up. Best of luck.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

8 minutes ago, Alex Simmonds said:

People are right about her being too much baggage, I will probably look elsewhere.

 

People from whom you are reading advice on this forum have baggage too.

 

If she's a decent human she deserves a chance.

[colinneil]

 OP time for to start thinking with your head, not your pants.

You say you have no intentions of marrying her, so you are just using her, what does that say about you?

Also all this about her being married/ beaten etc, how do you know any of it is true.

I used to be married to a Thai lady who would lie about anything just to get more money.

Get out now, stay out, or you will only regret it later.

[Hummin]

16 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

Do you not think it a little strange that she got pregnant after they (allegedly) split up?

 

This is just the beginning of your nightmare.

 

Enjoy.

 

 

 

Never heard of or had make up sex with any of your x? 

 

For the treadstarter my advice is just to keep out of it, and let them solve this. By time she will get court divorce without his approvement. And as you say, she have good work and so on, so why marry her? Why is the divorce so important to you? Let the time work for you, and you have time to know this girl better. You might learn something by time good or bad. 

[Hummin]

9 hours ago, Gracas said:

OP - While your discussing this with your GF you might also want to ask her how much Sin Sod did this prince pay ?

I'm guessing he paid nothing. Something you may want to remember should the subject of marriage come up in the future.

As has been said, Why does she want a divorce ? If not to marry you or someone else. Also was it a registered marriage ?

Sin sod is only paid for first time marriage, no kids, no previous bf history, good mom take good care, give education, good deeds, and all that shit. You do not pay sin sod if they have been married before or have kid. Simple as that. But that was not what he asked about in the first place, that will be the next tread. 

[bandito]

22 hours ago, Alex Simmonds said:

Yesterday he agreed to do it for 20k in return but has done a u-turn this morning and <deleted> off to Bangkok

First: Demanding money for a divorce is blackmail and is not allowed and he could go to jail for that as this is a criminal offence.

Secondly: He has to pay child support, a judge decides how much.

The only way to divorce free is at the Amphur and both parties agree.

There can be made a voluntary agreement on support, no lawyers involved.

Go to the courts if he refuses.

Spouse deserting is a ground for divorce.

Smells like a scam to lift you of Bht 20000-

[The Theory]

Perhaps she was his drug supporter and he still demanding support. 

As long as he knows where to find her, he shall be there even after divorce.

[Odysseus123]

5 minutes ago, bandito said:

First: Demanding money for a divorce is blackmail and is not allowed and he could go to jail for that as this is a criminal offence.

Secondly: He has to pay child support, a judge decides how much.

The only way to divorce free is at the Amphur and both parties agree.

There can be made a voluntary agreement on support, no lawyers involved.

Go to the courts if he refuses.

Spouse deserting is a ground for divorce.

Smells like a scam to lift you of Bht 20000-

..and it won't stop after the first 20,000 baht payoff.

 

That is just to get the ball rolling..

[theguyfromanotherforum]

28 minutes ago, Hummin said:

no previous bf history

 

ummm..... no

 

 

[BigC]

Hi sorry about my last post. I actually didn’t type anything wrong and I did read it properly but I was slightly drunk last night

 

it doesn’t say the marriage is or isn’t registered intact it’s says that they married to get a benefit payment

 

simplr answer is 

 

A) if there married or not he should be giving her money for maintence for thee child

 

 if there are not married he should be giving her money

 

do your really think that he shall go away afrtet payment 20,000 baht 

 

really need legal advise and a sit down with a professional 

 

personally I would report every beating as drugs or no drugs hitting women is not acceptable 

 

if he continues to threaten to endanger life he can be charged 

 

The person can be earned by police that if something happens to this person that he shall be number suspect 

 

she can insist of drug test 

 

she could take him to court and ask him for money

 

you watch him run away if she does that 

 

either way I wouldn’t pay him

 

its either a set up scam or if you pay him 20,000 Baht he shall

be back when the money dries up.

 

sorry to say it but all this is obvious to a thai 

can I ask who the girl wants the money from 

please don’t tel me that you going to be hit up for the bill in one way or another 

 

It makes no sense that they had a baby and she has to pay the man for the child not the other way round