Trump attacks report on FBI, saying in fact there was 'total bias'

[riclag]

19 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Nice attempt to ignore the significance of his offer. It's not that he's volunteered to appear. It's that he won't invoke the 5th Amendment and he will testify without immunity. Sounds like he's got nothing to be scared of. I predict that his testimony will be a debacle for the House Judiciary Committee Republicans.

 

 What's most interesting to me is finding out what parts the many others played in this bias 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

 What's most interesting to me is finding out what parts the many others played in this bias 

What’s interesting to me is the parroted  accusations made against Strzok.

 

He’s obviously not afraid to give evidence, but as with other targets of Trump and his supporters the cries of guilt continue. The distraction must go on.

 

[riclag]

26 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What’s interesting to me is the parroted  accusations made against Strzok.

 

He’s obviously not afraid to give evidence, but as with other targets of Trump and his supporters the cries of guilt continue. The distraction must go on.

 

Must have that distraction to delitgitimize the aggressive career professionals of the FBI ,the " No No We'll stop it", bunch

Edited June 18, 2018 by riclag

[billd766]

4 hours ago, riclag said:

Exactly to the point of bias. I posted in # 10 something similar as Kelsall. I must admit your post was short and precise . Thanks for posting.

 

9 hours ago, Kitmakmak said:

It was and still is an ongoing coup by the FBI and an executive branch weaponized by Barack Obama. It is aided and abetted by Hillary Clinton, the media and the Deep State (including Republicans).

 

How did either of you go from 1 email between 2 FBI agents and turn that into an ongoing coup by the FBI and an executive branch weaponized by Barack Obama. It is aided and abetted by Hillary Clinton, the media and the Deep State (including Republicans).

 

That is one huge leap.

 

Of course you have all the facts and the proof as well, have you not?

[Becker]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

Must have that distraction to delitgitimize the aggressive career professionals of the FBI ,The " No No We'll stop it", bunch

Is this the same FBI who handed the election to the man-child on a silver plate?

[Becker]

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

 

How did either of you go from 1 email between 2 FBI agents and turn that into an ongoing coup by the FBI and an executive branch weaponized by Barack Obama. It is aided and abetted by Hillary Clinton, the media and the Deep State (including Republicans).

 

That is one huge leap.

 

Of course you have all the facts and the proof as well, have you not?

Proof and facts don't factor into the decision making of the base man-child supporters. It's all about MAWA.

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

 

How did either of you go from 1 email between 2 FBI agents and turn that into an ongoing coup by the FBI and an executive branch weaponized by Barack Obama. It is aided and abetted by Hillary Clinton, the media and the Deep State (including Republicans).

 

That is one huge leap.

 

Of course you have all the facts and the proof as well, have you not?

The IG report!

Many agents of the career professtional FBI ,not just Stroz  ( Stroz,Andy and Lisa Page) referencing  to Andy's office where the insurance policy(bias) was discussed . Also the FBI agents that worked with those 3 ."But the IG report tells us that it's Peter Strzok and it's Lisa Page, but it's also teams of agents and lawyers that are identified in this IG report, five of whom who have been referred to the Office of Professional Responsibility for their anti-Trump texts". 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/17/rep_john_ratcliffe_on_important_takeaways_from_doj_inspector_generals_report.html

[billd766]

Just now, riclag said:

The IG report!

Many agents of the career professtional FBI ,not just Stroz  ( Stroz,Andy and Lisa Page) referencing  to Andy's office where the insurance policy(bias) was discussed . Also the FBI agents that worked with those 3 ."But the IG report tells us that it's Peter Strzok and it's Lisa Page, but it's also teams of agents and lawyers that are identified in this IG report, five of whom who have been referred to the Office of Professional Responsibility for their anti-Trump texts". 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/17/rep_john_ratcliffe_on_important_takeaways_from_doj_inspector_generals_report.html

 

Please tell us all exactly how many agenys are involved in this ongoing coup?

 

A hint for you. It will not be more than 35,000 agents.

 

https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/how-many-people-work-for-the-fbi

 

How many people work for the FBI?

The FBI employs approximately 35,000 people, including special agents and support professionals such as intelligence analysts, language specialists, scientists, and information technology specialists. Learn how you can join us at FBIJobs.gov.

[riclag]

Just now, billd766 said:

 

Please tell us all exactly how many agenys are involved in this ongoing coup?

 

A hint for you. It will not be more than 35,000 agents.

 

https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/how-many-people-work-for-the-fbi

 

How many people work for the FBI?

The FBI employs approximately 35,000 people, including special agents and support professionals such as intelligence analysts, language specialists, scientists, and information technology specialists. Learn how you can join us at FBIJobs.gov.

IG report "tells us that it's Peter Strzok and it's Lisa Page, but it's also teams of agents and lawyers that are identified in this IG report, five of whom who have been referred to the Office of Professional Responsibility for their anti-Trump texts". 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/17/rep_john_ratcliffe_on_important_takeaways_from_doj_inspector_generals_report.html

[bristolboy]

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

IG report "tells us that it's Peter Strzok and it's Lisa Page, but it's also teams of agents and lawyers that are identified in this IG report, five of whom who have been referred to the Office of Professional Responsibility for their anti-Trump texts". 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/17/rep_john_ratcliffe_on_important_takeaways_from_doj_inspector_generals_report.html

But it's about the impropriety of the texts not about a conspiracy. In the case of Strzek and Page what you fail to note is that they were having an extramarital affair and were using their business phones to avoid detections. So public affairs matters that any 2 people might discuss were conducted on their business phones. As the IG also notes, absolutely no evidence of a conspiracy or that any of these people did anything improper  in their official capacity to damage the Trump campaign. I for one am looking forward to Strzek's unvarnished testimony in the House. 

[riclag]

14 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

But it's about the impropriety of the texts not about a conspiracy. In the case of Strzek and Page what you fail to note is that they were having an extramarital affair and were using their business phones to avoid detections. So public affairs matters that any 2 people might discuss were conducted on their business phones. As the IG also notes, absolutely no evidence of a conspiracy or that any of these people did anything improper  in their official capacity to damage the Trump campaign. I for one am looking forward to Strzek's unvarnished testimony in the House. 

We'll as in We. "We will stop it"

 

Sounds like "five of whom who have been referred to the Office of Professional Responsibility for their anti-Trump texts". I'm sure these 5  career professionals where using GOV phones and not having a affair. Incidentally , I explained my point,I will not carry on with  going into romance nonsense for fear of being Off Topic.If you like your welcome to have the last say,go for it 

Edited June 18, 2018 by riclag

[billd766]

42 minutes ago, riclag said:

IG report "tells us that it's Peter Strzok and it's Lisa Page, but it's also teams of agents and lawyers that are identified in this IG report, five of whom who have been referred to the Office of Professional Responsibility for their anti-Trump texts". 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/17/rep_john_ratcliffe_on_important_takeaways_from_doj_inspector_generals_report.html

 

So that is 5 out of 35,000 FBI employees who don't like Trump.

 

Wow. Impressive numbers for a coup?

[billd766]

36 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

But it's about the impropriety of the texts not about a conspiracy. In the case of Strzek and Page what you fail to note is that they were having an extramarital affair and were using their business phones to avoid detections. So public affairs matters that any 2 people might discuss were conducted on their business phones. As the IG also notes, absolutely no evidence of a conspiracy or that any of these people did anything improper  in their official capacity to damage the Trump campaign. I for one am looking forward to Strzek's unvarnished testimony in the House. 

 

You will need more and bigger shovels to make a mountain out of this mole hill.

 

Both you and the commission will need bigger straws to clutch at than the fact that 2 people were having an affair and using government phones to do it with.

 

quote from your post  

 

"As the IG also notes, absolutely no evidence of a conspiracy or that any of these people did anything improper  in their official capacity to damage the Trump campaign."

 

So why the hullabaloo then and just how much wasted time and money did the enquiry cost the US government? THAT is what you should be more concerned about.

[riclag]

10 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

So that is 5 out of 35,000 FBI employees who don't like Trump.

 

Wow. Impressive numbers for a coup?

Sorry  Billd, I think you didn't see why I came to the "5" or "We" in  prior posts before you started into the thread. It started by someone saying Stroz was the only misguided "Career Professional" at the FBI. Not talken about rank and file ,only the Top

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/17/rep_john_ratcliffe_on_important_takeaways_from_doj_inspector_generals_report.html

Edited June 18, 2018 by riclag

[Jingthing]

There is no evidence despite a few texts that anyone in the FBI actually DID anything to stop "trump" from being elected.

There is strong evidence that Comey did a lot (probably not intentionally but based on his bizarre logic) to help "trump" to be elected.

Edited June 18, 2018 by Jingthing

[riclag]

Plenty of bias  . The IG report didn't have evidence via testimony or documents. But the bias was there.They went with the same FBI from the mid examine to Cross fire hurricane.  All of those "Career Professionals that got fired,demoted or quit . The whole thing starting  to be uncovered with the "Insurance policy" , "We will stop it", and meetings,discussions in the txt about leaking to the media,never mind dinners and gifts being exchanged with the FBI.And Comey ,nice director he turned out to be ,I didn't think to tell PT that the HC sponsored the op report (steele dossier).  The "we" have a lot of explaining. Sad to see the top FBI(Career Professional) react with such derangement.

Edited June 18, 2018 by riclag

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

Sorry  Billd, I think you didn't see why I came to the "5" or "We" in  prior posts before you started into the thread. It started by someone saying Stroz was the only misguided "Career Professional" at the FBI. Not talken about rank and file ,only the Top

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/17/rep_john_ratcliffe_on_important_takeaways_from_doj_inspector_generals_report.html

For a minute I thought you were just citing the spin of some right wing politician. But when I realized that it you were actually citing an interview with Rep. John Ratcliffe, well known for his moderation and fair-mindedness.

In Heritage Action's final scorecard for the 114th Congress, Ratcliffe was ranked as the most conservative Texas legislator in Congress and second most conservative legislator in the country.^[7]...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ratcliffe_(American_politician)

 

[Scott]

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[Kitmakmak]

20 hours ago, billd766 said:

 

 

How did either of you go from 1 email between 2 FBI agents and turn that into an ongoing coup by the FBI and an executive branch weaponized by Barack Obama. It is aided and abetted by Hillary Clinton, the media and the Deep State (including Republicans).

 

That is one huge leap.

 

Of course you have all the facts and the proof as well, have you not?

I didn't go from 1 email between 2 FBI agents and turn it into an ongoing coup. This goes back to 2009.

It started with Lois Lerner. After you explain how her computer crashing made her emails irretrievable, we can move on to the next fact.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, Kitmakmak said:

I didn't go from 1 email between 2 FBI agents and turn it into an ongoing coup. This goes back to 2009.

It started with Lois Lerner. After you explain how her computer crashing made her emails irretrievable, we can move on to the next fact.

 

There are many ways for a computer to crash.

 

How you expect me to explain how a computer used by somebody in the USA that I have never heard of crashed 9 years ago is beyond my comprehension.

 

I am not an IT man nor am I an FBI person and never have been.

 

However since YOU brought it up why don't YOU find out the reason and come back to us all to prove how smart you are?

 

More deflection I suspect.

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Kitmakmak said:

I didn't go from 1 email between 2 FBI agents and turn it into an ongoing coup. This goes back to 2009.

It started with Lois Lerner. After you explain how her computer crashing made her emails irretrievable, we can move on to the next fact.

In 2009 my computer crashed, could not retrieve anything.

[Kitmakmak]

21 hours ago, billd766 said:

 

There are many ways for a computer to crash.

 

How you expect me to explain how a computer used by somebody in the USA that I have never heard of crashed 9 years ago is beyond my comprehension.

 

I am not an IT man nor am I an FBI person and never have been.

 

However since YOU brought it up why don't YOU find out the reason and come back to us all to prove how smart you are?

 

More deflection I suspect.

seriously? if your computer crashes, the emails you sent or received still exist on your company/private email server like yahoo or gmail or whoever your email provider is. The Internal Revenue Service of the US government saves EVERYTHING on millions of taxpayers for at least 7 years. Do you think their server lost her emails when her computer crashed? Hillary had to hire a private IT firm to get rid of hers. You think the IRS doesn't have IT techs that can retrieve any employee's emails? It wasn't some file she saved, it was her emails. Plus, every email she sent went to someone.... even to Barack Obama..... who also used a private email for conducting government business..... just like Lois Lerner and Hillary Clinton and James Comey.

 

So, they had all her emails and still do. The IRS refused to give them to Congress.... and Congress didn't press the issue because they ALL knew Obama was circumventing US law by using a private email system for government business. NOBODY in Congress wanted to impeach the first black president.... so they stopped asking for Lerner's emails.

 

 

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Kitmakmak said:

seriously? if your computer crashes, the emails you sent or received still exist on your company/private email server like yahoo or gmail or whoever your email provider is. The Internal Revenue Service of the US government saves EVERYTHING on millions of taxpayers for at least 7 years. Do you think their server lost her emails when her computer crashed? Hillary had to hire a private IT firm to get rid of hers. You think the IRS doesn't have IT techs that can retrieve any employee's emails? It wasn't some file she saved, it was her emails. Plus, every email she sent went to someone.... even to Barack Obama..... who also used a private email for conducting government business..... just like Lois Lerner and Hillary Clinton and James Comey.

 

So, they had all her emails and still do. The IRS refused to give them to Congress.... and Congress didn't press the issue because they ALL knew Obama was circumventing US law by using a private email system for government business. NOBODY in Congress wanted to impeach the first black president.... so they stopped asking for Lerner's emails.

 

 

 

Which may be fine in this decade but not necessarily back before then.

[Kitmakmak]

On 6/20/2018 at 1:34 AM, billd766 said:

 

Which may be fine in this decade but not necessarily back before then.

It was 2014:

"In 2014, in further pursuit of the House of Representatives Congressional inquiry, the House Oversight Committee issued a subpoena for all of Lerner's email messages during the time in question. Months later, the IRS informed Congress that they did not have all of her email messages, due to her hard drive crashing, causing them to be irretrievably lost, that the IRS had taken steps to recover the email messages, but that it was impossible. The IRS Inspector General's office said, however, that they found back-up computer tapes, and would attempt to reconstitute the emails from the back-up tapes. Committee Investigators, however, said that when they later went to obtain the backup tapes from the IRS, the IRS employees in the back-up tape unit said that no one from IRS headquarters had ever asked for them.

 

Testifying in June 2015, the IRS Deputy Inspector General Timothy P. Camus said that 424 back-up tapes, most likely to have contained the missing emails, were erased in March 2014—a month after the IRS said it realized it was missing some of Lerner's emails because of a hard-drive crash, and although the emails were then under subpoena from the Oversight Committee.