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[Neilly]

4 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

And the Fizzer Bro's .. top dogs of the 16 yo 'ellers .. Purple reign ( s ) .. 

Oi...you missed the best one...

 

 

[Neilly]

1 hour ago, Justgrazing said:

C'mon then Guy's here's an idea ..

 

In 20 words or less best bike you've ever ridden ..

20 words or less the bike you wish you'd had but never did ( get one ) .. 

The first one is the tricky one, (and certainly not in 20 words) mostly because you could be riding the best bike in the world, but it's pi55in down and you're freezing cold so can't appreciate it...I have quite a few memorable rides stored in my head, time, place, bike and who I was racing against, or riding with. I will offer up the bike that gave me my first hallelujah moment...I was 16 and out with a friend on our 50cc mopeds up in the hills near where we lived when a friend turned up on his Suzi GT250...and he let me have a go on it. I'd been riding bikes since I was 9 years old...but never ever experienced anything like that...from that moment on I was hooked on two strokes and it reinforced my feelings for bikes 100 fold.

 

The one that got away...easy, RD500LC

 

 

[thaiguzzi]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

A few of my current favorites. Unfortunately, it appears Bimota is all but out of business. Oh well. Dreams live on.

You were doing quite well, and acceptable, until the last photo..............

[thaiguzzi]

1 hour ago, Neilly said:

Oi...you missed the best one...

 

 

And where are the learner legal peds (mo-ped) on the Garelli?

That's cheating that is...

[mogandave]

Never really had a nice bike, or rode many that weren’t mine. Had a ‘74 Honda 750-4 for a couple years, probably the nicest thing I ever rode. Had an accident in ‘81 that kind of took the fun out it for me.

Always wanted a ‘57 pan.

[thaiguzzi]

23 hours ago, Neilly said:

A guy I know runs a dive business out of Brighton and he comes to Samui every winter for a few months. This was his CBX...pretty sure he's sold it tho now

 

 

Orange is nice.

Never liked those mini streetfighter headlights.

Copying a Speed Triple with twin mini Bates lights would look sooooooo much better.

Or even the stock 7" round light.

And whoever built it forgot to change (or bin) the ghastly stock mirrors.

JMHO.

 

[thaiguzzi]

4 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Is this '74 CB175 sim' to the one you referred to earlier Guzz' I do remember these didn't they have 'leccy start .?

Now you've tweeked my memory, it was a CB200 i was comparing the CD175 with, not a CB 175. The CB200 had the vinyl tank thingy. Yeah!!!

4 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

I do remember these didn't they have 'leccy start .? Of which the RD200 I recall did have and still a good looking machine even now ..

Don't think any RD's had electric start. Or any of the smaller 2 strokes, KH nor GT.

4 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

And GT185 of the Suzy GT clan .

Fine looking motorcycle, as are both the other two, especially the Yam.

5 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Never knew anyone with a Fantic

Can't remember mine looking like that, but then i can't remember full stop.......

Wrote it off going over a hump back bridge and hitting full on smack-sideways an Austin 1100-1300 doing a u-turn t'other side.

First ambulance ride of of my life. Bobby saw it all so i had a decent witness.

5 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

And the wonderfully slow SS50

Look at that petrol tank - lovely!

Not that slow. Me (Fizzy) and a mate (SS50) regularly raced and swapped leads many times, hitting the giddy heights of 45 mph flat out lying on the tank......

Must've looked a complete knob back then, 6'3" tall, Brutus Birmingham Bags jeans , brown Airware boots, long hair, all on a FS1E.

Fortunately no photographic evidence exists.

Unfortunately the first photos i have are of the XS650, missing out all the RD history.

[spidermike007]

31 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

You were doing quite well, and acceptable, until the last photo..............

I understand your sentiments. But as far as scooters go, that bike rocks. Super bikes are not for everyone. 

[damascase]

9 hours ago, kickstart said:

CB 350-4 only ever saw one that was in Denmark 1973 ,I think it was never imported into the UK.

I read somewhere the 400-4 was based on the CB350-4?

AJS 7R ,I was at a bike rally, and a guy fired up one up, what a sound, as TG said they where engineering masterpieces .

I bought a CB350-4 in the spring of 1973, one of the very first in The Netherlands. The bike in the picture misses the original 4in4 silencer. A great bike, great sound too. Later that year my brother bought one too. The later 400-4 was indeed based on the 350. Actually, we converted my brother’s 350 to a 400 before the latter came on the market, using an American set of pistons and sleeves.

[damascase]

1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said:

And where are the learner legal peds (mo-ped) on the Garelli?

That's cheating that is...

I see a Gilera, not a Garelli........... Gilera’s were mostly fourstrokes, Garelli had only twostroke engines.

i owned a Gilera 125 Sei Giorni, bought it new in 1966 or ‘67. Single cylinder fourstroke, around 10hp. Did not live long, exploded under me as the conrod seized on the crankshaft, broke and split the crankcase, ending up in the gearbox.......

[kickstart]

Fanatic moped chopper, Remember seeing the advert for these in the bike mags, never did see one on the road, not over cheap either. 

[Justgrazing]

1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said:

Don't think any RD's had electric start. Or any of the smaller 2 strokes, KH nor GT.

You had me doubting my memory bank again there Guzz' so I had to recheck it .. A bloke called Urch the Birch had one back in the day and I always thought it was cool as f*** when he thumbed the button and it burbled into life .. Like a 200cc 2 stroke needs an electric starter anyway .. 

 

1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said:

Now you've tweeked my memory, it was a CB200 

Yea I know the one you mean came in like a greenish colour with the padded strip thing up the centre of the tank .. not cool .. 

 

1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said:

Look at that petrol tank - lovely!

Not that slow. Me (Fizzy) and a mate (SS50) regularly raced and swapped leads many times, hitting the giddy heights of 45 mph flat out lying on the tank......

Must've looked a complete knob back then, 6'3" tall, Brutus Birmingham Bags jeans , brown Airware boots, long hair, all on a FS1E.

Hahahaha .. Real fashionista there then mate .. We used to do Monkey boots , jeans , Lewis leather jack 'n fold away nylon overstrides 'n coat if you got caught in the rain but weren't much use so you'd get 'ome like a drowned rat .. Some of the less 'erm stylish boys used to wear steel toe caps and donkey jackets with NCB emblazoned across the back .. Yea top end of 45 mph was about the mark for both of 'em but I just found the SS so painfully slow getting there though they did came in that lovely turquoisey blue colour so I concur on the tank .. 

[Justgrazing]

1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said:

Can't remember mine looking like that, but then i can't remember full stop.......

Wrote it off going over a hump back bridge and hitting full on smack-sideways an Austin 1100-1300 doing a u-turn t'other side.

First ambulance ride of of my life. Bobby saw it all so i had a decent witness.

Hahaha .. Yea death to all Austin 1100's .. seem to remember Basil Fawlty giving an 1100 a thrashing in Fawlty Towers .. Damn right n'all .. 

Yea that 1st ambulance ride is great innit then into Casualty forra a bit of surgical spirit in the gravel rash then the nurse trying pick the smaller bits out with tweezers .. I went thru' a fence trying to avoid a car that had pulled out on me on a road next to a slag tip .. The bike RD250 went down the side of the tip and I got slagged and gravelled up coming to a stop .. underground slag is dirty black grey with some of it like soft shards of flint but still hard enough to puncture you .. off to casualty absolutely filthy black to have the shirt n' jeans cut off and then the slag and gravel removal with added Surgical spirit and X-rays .. Then get home for an ear bashing off the old dear and threats off the old man to " burn that bloody motorbike " .. Hahaha great days indeed .. 

[Justgrazing]

31 minutes ago, kickstart said:

Fanatic moped chopper, Remember seeing the advert for these in the bike mags, never did see one on the road, not over cheap either. 

Yea I remember the ad's for that but never seen one for real .. But then never seen many Fantics 'round my way full stop .. 

[kickstart]

The other 6 cyinlider Honda,the racing 250 ,in 1966

[damascase]

7 minutes ago, kickstart said:

The other 6 cyinlider Honda,the racing 250 ,in 1966

Ohh, the sound of that one going through its gears at the Dutch TT at the famous Assen track is something I will never forget. Those were the years that Honda was so far ahead, technically, with their twincylinder 50cc’s - revving up to 18.000 rpm -  and fivecylinder 125’s.

[Justgrazing]

26 minutes ago, kickstart said:

The other 6 cyinlider Honda,the racing 250 ,in 1966

A stunning piece of engineering .. There was a George Beale copy at Goodwood Festival of Speed a few yrs ago and yes I can confirm just in the pits they are one of the loudest motorcycles I've ever heard as they have so little flywheel mass they won't tick over so they constantly blip the throttle .. To 12/14000 rpm .. Honda granted Beale access to one of the bikes they still retain in their museum for all the relevant data , measurement , statistics etc needed to build a faithful copy .. I believe a lot of the manufacturing for them was done in Toulouse France which has a good rep' for aircraft standard engineering ..

Put Honda Six written exactly like that into YouTube and there's a short clip ( 20 odd sec's ) of one at Suzuka race track being bump started then blasted down the pit lane upto 3rd gear then back down one .. T'is a most awesome exhaust note .. 

[Justgrazing]

Cute or what .. 

 

[Justgrazing]

6 hours ago, Neilly said:

Oi...you missed the best one...

 

 

Sorry mate there you go pedals n'all .. But now you mention them I didn't mind the Gil' as far as 'peds went .. 

[Justgrazing]

Them was the days when birds , tab's and class were used to sell bikes .. 

[Damrongsak]

3 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Cute or what .. 

I had a steady girlfriend who had one of those.  She was small and cute.  Pretty good belly dancer, too. 

 

 

[Damrongsak]

Some oddball stuff.

 

Japanese Auto Race bike.

 

 

All about the Honda RC 166 250cc road racer, quite fascinating.  Definitely a good read if you are a gear-head: https://petrolicious.com/articles/honda-rc166

 

 

Old CZ:

 

 

This is the model I rode in Thailand back in 1977-79:

 

 

Honda NSR500 engine:

 

 

Honda 1949 D type:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Damrongsak]

Here's a good old video: Suzuki 1970 Grand Prix Motocross Season Film (rare). Several great old makes of bikes... Husky, CZ, Montesa.  I didn't spot a Maico, but there must have been one or two.

 

Way different than these days.  Spectators jumping away from the track .. trees jumping onto the track... 555

 

 

I wonder if I could get a second-hand sidecar noodle bike and talk my wife into trying sidecar motocross.

[thaiguzzi]

10 hours ago, damascase said:

Ohh, the sound of that one going through its gears at the Dutch TT at the famous Assen track is something I will never forget.

Yeah, truly horrid i agree.

I am from that school of thought, more than 2, and on special occasions 3 (MV, BSA & Triumph) cylinders is a complete waste of the internal combustion process. Flywheel weight, and less cylinders = torque. And i like torque. More cylinders = more rpm = the devil incarnate.

10 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

A stunning piece of engineering .. There was a George Beale copy at Goodwood Festival of Speed a few yrs ago and yes I can confirm just in the pits they are one of the loudest motorcycles I've ever heard as they have so little flywheel mass they won't tick over so they constantly blip the throttle .. To 12/14000 rpm .. Honda granted Beale access to one of the bikes they still retain in their museum for all the relevant data , measurement , statistics etc needed to build a faithful copy .. I believe a lot of the manufacturing for them was done in Toulouse France which has a good rep' for aircraft standard engineering ..

Beale had a batch made, and also an American company commissioned a few (Obselete Racing), i read somewhere, the cost to produce just one complete bike was 130k GBP. Back then.

I agree, the engineering is stunning. More stunning engineering though, will be found 15 years further back in time with Moto Guzzi's 500cc V8. Gear driven DOHC, 8 Dell Orto's etc etc.

 

[thaiguzzi]

9 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Cute or what .. 

 

Well. Wrong again. Time to get the flagellation kit out. Again.

I just can't see where the bloody starter is? Hence in your first photo several pages back i thought nah, no starter on that. Obviously i'm mistaken.

6 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Them was the days when birds , tab's and class were used to sell bikes .. 

Look at those Ducati prices!

I coulda shoulda bought one, i especially liked the Darmah - first Ducati with Japanese switchgear - big news back then.

My 79 T140E was 1399 GBP. A Z1000 was 1499 to put it all in perspective.

 

Those 400 DT's were just pure sex.

I never rode one, but i would imagine a Yamaha 400cc 2 stroke single would have serious torque and fantastic throttle response.

[thaiguzzi]

12 hours ago, damascase said:

I see a Gilera, not a Garelli...........

Correctomondo.

My mistake.

Garelli, Gilera, Schmilera Schmarelli.

11 hours ago, kickstart said:

Fanatic moped chopper, Remember seeing the advert for these in the bike mags, never did see one on the road, not over cheap either. 

No, i never saw one on the road either. Quite hideous. I vaguely remember wanting one - perhaps before i was actually 16. Maybe. And yes, not cheap either.

Note the Raleigh Chopper faut pas of having a smaller diameter front wheel than the rear.

11 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

We used to do Monkey boots ,

Wow i remember them, Down Memory Lane...............

11 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Some of the less 'erm stylish boys used to wear steel toe caps and donkey jackets

My mates & best friends thru to the 80's.....

[thaiguzzi]

5 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

All about the Honda RC 166 250cc road racer, quite fascinating.  Definitely a good read if you are a gear-head: https://petrolicious.com/articles/honda-rc166

Indeed.

Thanx for that, a good read, downloaded it for future reference too.

 

"Could bend the crank out of shape with your hands it was so fragile, but could spin to 20k rpm....

Each cam had a different lobe shape, each cylinder different valve timing....

Before mpg and accountants ruined Honda, and everything was still about engineering excellence..."

 

 

[canthai55]

16 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

In 20 words or less best bike you've ever ridden ..

20 words or less the bike you wish you'd had but never did ( get one ) .. 

Best for what ?

- For gravel and dirt roads - think unpaved hiways - my YZ490 Super Motard. Would pull the handlebars right out of your hands if you did not have a firm grip when it came on the pipe.

- For drag strip - my high strung H2 750. Absolute Rush when it hit, the slick gripped, you slid sideways all the while trying to find the shifter, keep upright, and see where the F you were going.

- Road bike - modded GPZ1100. My first 200hp bike. Twist the throttle and you did not ride there - you WERE there.

[ballpoint]

6 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

Way different than these days.  Spectators jumping away from the track .. trees jumping onto the track... 555

 

There's one place left where it's still not so different (and you'll be hard pressed to find a more pornographic movie than this):

 

[kickstart]

Back to Triumph's, about the most famous Triumph triple, "Slippery Sam", and somehow Triumph got 84bhp out of that engine. and genuine porn, with those fishtail /ray gun exhaust, and the noise. 

It showed that it could be done, but the masses went for the new Honda CB750 and the demise of the British motorcycle industry.