UK's new Brexit envoy optimistic, as EU warns of Brexit crash

[bristolboy]

19 minutes ago, vogie said:

Why are you asking questions that originated from another member, that doesn't count I suppose.

Example?

[vogie]

38 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Example?

"Chomper, I wouldn't take throw away remarks as gospel, it was only last week one of your remainer friends wanted to gaol all brexiteers"

 

This is my post to Chomper, if it is a problem to you report me to the mods, why do you have to make a big deal of everything.

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

"Chomper, I wouldn't take throw away remarks as gospel, it was only last week one of your remainer friends wanted to gaol all brexiteers"

 

This is my post to Chomper, if it is a problem to you report me to the mods, why do you have to make a big deal of everything.

Why would I report you to the mods? What did I say that even intimated that I would report you to the mods?

You made a comment that I thought was unfair, and I commented on it. If you want to keep things confidential, use the PM service. That's what it's there for.

And I asked for an example because I was puzzled when you wrote this:

"Why are you asking questions that originated from another member, that doesn't count I suppose."

I wasn't asking a question. I was making a comment.

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Why would I report you to the mods? What did I say that even intimated that I would report you to the mods?

You made a comment that I thought was unfair, and I commented on it. If you want to keep things confidential, use the PM service. That's what it's there for.

And I asked for an example because I was puzzled when you wrote this:

"Why are you asking questions that originated from another member, that doesn't count I suppose."

I wasn't asking a question. I was making a comment.

I answered a post, this is what a forum is for. You then added.

 

"think you should let your buddy speak for himself on that one."

 

Firstly, he is not my buddy and secondly am I not allowed to comment on an open forum.

This is becoming very tedious to say the least, I answered your question, if you are not happy with my answer I am very sorry.

I really don't want to continue this trivial exercise in tit for tat. Goodnight to you.

 

 

[sandyf]

On 7/21/2018 at 8:51 AM, BritManToo said:

Don't understand why any deal is needed, anything the UK can't make or grow itself can be purchased cheaper from Asia or America.

And if it can't, then learn to live without it. It's time to take our independence back.

And for those that don't like it, move out or be hanged as traitors.

I have no need to read any foreign enemy propaganda.

"Don't understand why any deal is needed,"

About says it all. European aviation is tied up in a multitude of EU legislative arrangements, aviation components are dependent on safety certification from an EU entity, a large percentage of UK business is dependent on the CE mark which belongs to an EU entity.

You can send as much of the industrial sector to grow vegetables as you want but without a withdrawal agreement the "trade deal" will be the least of the problems. The UK will be on its hands and knees over deals on standards, regulation and security.

Without those 'deals' the UK 'Tempest' will be no more than a storm in a teacup.

[nauseus]

On 7/21/2018 at 10:26 AM, Kwasaki said:

Yes he wouldn't agree with President de Gaulle who has been proved right.

Barmier is a Gaullist tho'

[nauseus]

On 7/21/2018 at 2:04 PM, welovesundaysatspace said:

It wasn’t “the remainers and the EU” who voted for Brexit. You voted for this; now don’t put the blame on people who warned you before what would happen. 

But it's the remainers and the EU who are trying to turn a fair vote over. 

[nauseus]

On 7/21/2018 at 2:14 PM, bristolboy said:

But Nigel Farage would have wanted another.e. And somehow I think he was a somewhat more significant figure in the Brexiteer camp than you.

Nigel Farage wants second referendum if Remain campaign scrapes narrow win

 

Nigel Farage warns today he would fight for a second referendum on Britain in Europe if the remain campaign won by a narrow margin next month.

The Ukip leader said a small defeat for his leave camp would be “unfinished business” and predicted pressure would grow for a re-run of the 23 June ballot.

Farage told the Mirror: “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017

 

This Farage stuff is so old and irrelevant.  

[The Renegade]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

But it's the remainers and the EU who are trying to turn a fair vote over. 

Yep

 

The latest

 

Quote

Brussels sources have told The Telegraph that it is theoretically possible but would be very difficult. They revealed that an extension request, were it ever to be made by Theresa May, would only be accepted to accommodate a second Brexit referendum or a general election

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/07/24/eu-will-extend-brexit-deadline-second-referendum/

 

We would allow an extension if you hold another vote and get the result we want.

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Barmier is a Gaullist tho'

Well lets hope so to let England go, it should never had gone in EU in the first place.

Edited July 24, 2018 by Kwasaki

[Jip99]

8 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Well lets hope so to let England go, it should never had gone in EU in the first place.

 

 

Agree.....  EEC perhaps, EU definitely not.

[Kwasaki]

6 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

Agree.....  EEC perhaps, EU definitely not.

Was there a vote for England in !993.?

[juice777]

I just heard on the Radio that it is highly possible that if there is no Deal it will be illegal to pay pensions to UK expats.

I am not sure if it's just in the EU or worldwide but if it is I wonder how many of you old codgers who voted for it and wiped your A** with you grandchildren future will regret it then.

If it wasn't so scary it would be funny

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[juice777]

But it's the remainers and the EU who are trying to turn a fair vote over. 

If it was a fair vote why are the Vote leave campaigners facing criminal charges?

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[Kwasaki]

6 minutes ago, juice777 said:

I just heard on the Radio that it is highly possible that if there is no Deal it will be illegal to pay pensions to UK expats.

I am not sure if it's just in the EU or worldwide but if it is I wonder how many of you old codgers who voted for it and wiped your A** with you grandchildren future will regret it then.

If it wasn't so scary it would be funny

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Oh no just another repeat of scaremongering jerk remarks made by people who voted for remain.

[juice777]

But it's the remainers and the EU who are trying to turn a fair vote over. 

Just in case you read the Daily Mail because I am sure it's not in there.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/17/vote-leave-fined-and-reported-to-police-by-electoral-commission-brexit

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[Jip99]

18 minutes ago, juice777 said:

If it was a fair vote why are the Vote leave campaigners facing criminal charges?

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You really are scraping the barrel now.....

[juice777]

It's a Fact you read it at your leisure they cheated hence the charges and a fine because it wasn't fair

It's a Undisputed fact

 
 
You really are scraping the barrel now.....

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[welovesundaysatspace]

 

 

On 7/21/2018 at 3:06 PM, BritManToo said:

 

I also have a leaving plan, we stop paying the EU money, end of.

No need for any trade deal with the EU, plenty of other countries to trade with.

Next time you make a plan, try one that’s feasible. 

 

 

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

But it's the remainers and the EU who are trying to turn a fair vote over. 

Neither one have any decision making authority in the UK’s Brexit affairs, so they certainly cannot try “to turn a fair vote over”, whatever that means. 

[juice777]

"I also have a leaving plan, we stop paying the EU money, end of.

No need for any trade deal with the EU, plenty of other countries to trade with"

 

Do you know how many countries in The World have no free trade agreements in the World?

 

Zero

 

Do you know how many there will be on the 1st of April

 

One Us

 

Now you explain to me how you fools can think that is a good thing.

 

The EU just signd one with Japan and the paperwork evolved took years and will fit in a Telphone box.

 

And we don't have much negotiation power only having a population of 60 million compared to The EU.

 

And we import a big % of our food thanks for that.

 

The future looks bleak but none of you lot will admit it because of the shame involved.

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure what blame I deserve, I didn't vote.

But I would vote in a second vote, and that vote would be to leave.

 

I also have a leaving plan, we stop paying the EU money, end of.

No need for any trade deal with the EU, plenty of other countries to trade with.

 

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[nauseus]

1 hour ago, juice777 said:

If it was a fair vote why are the Vote leave campaigners facing criminal charges?

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They aren't. 

 

If it was a fair vote how then is the government be allowed to promote the remain cause with 9.3 million pounds of taxpayers money?

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

 

Next time you make a plan, try one that’s feasible. 

 

 

Neither one have any decision making authority in the UK’s Brexit affairs, so they certainly cannot try “to turn a fair vote over”, whatever that means. 

Demanding aren't you? Exit plans were not the responsibility of the voters, they were the responsibility of Cameron and his government, which was far too overconfident of a remain vote.   

 

Many of the influential remainers occupy positions within the present government and in other influential posts within the UK, that's what that means. 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, juice777 said:

I just heard on the Radio that it is highly possible that if there is no Deal it will be illegal to pay pensions to UK expats.

I am not sure if it's just in the EU or worldwide but if it is I wonder how many of you old codgers who voted for it and wiped your A** with you grandchildren future will regret it then.

If it wasn't so scary it would be funny

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Project Fear gone mad or just mutated into Project Piffle.

[juice777]

I imagine because they believed it was in the people's interest which is coming more clear with every day. They should have spent more 9.3 million is peanuts compared to what they are going to lose next year.

And can you find a law they broke by doing this?

They aren't. 
 
If it was a fair vote how then is the government be allowed to promote the remain cause with 9.3 million pounds of taxpayers money?

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[welovesundaysatspace]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Exit plans were not the responsibility of the voters

It was the responsibility of the voters to not vote for something that doesn’t come with a proper plan. 

 

And it was the responsibility of the government to not delegate such decision into the hands of people who don’t get that. 

 

 

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, juice777 said:

I imagine because they believed it was in the people's interest which is coming more clear with every day. They should have spent more 9.3 million is peanuts compared to what they are going to lose next year.

And can you find a law they broke by doing this?

 

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Now you are twisting the word "fair" to "legal". Why am I not surprised? 

Edited July 24, 2018 by nauseus

[Chomper Higgot]

25 minutes ago, nauseus said:

They aren't. 

 

If it was a fair vote how then is the government be allowed to promote the remain cause with 9.3 million pounds of taxpayers money?

Well at least it was the British Government.

 

The evidence of foreign money and foreign influence in the Leave I campaign is gathering.

 

 

Edited July 24, 2018 by Chomper Higgot

[Scott]

Troll posts removed.  

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

It was the responsibility of the voters to not vote for something that doesn’t come with a proper plan. 

 

And it was the responsibility of the government to not delegate such decision into the hands of people who don’t get that. 

 

 

The voters were asked a question. It was their responsibility to answer it. The responsible ones did.

 

The result itself showed that a referendum was both necessary and long overdue. Successive governments promised referenda but then irresponsibly denied them to the British people. It's not your responsibility to tell other people what their responsibilities are.

[nauseus]

23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well at least it was the British Government.

 

The evidence of foreign money and foreign influence in the Leave I campaign is gathering.

 

 

British Gov, ah that's OK then. Any evidence of that evidence? ?

Edited July 24, 2018 by nauseus