FBI releases documents on former Trump adviser surveillance

[rooster59]

FBI releases documents on former Trump adviser surveillance

By David Shepardson

 

FILE PHOTO: One-time advisor of U.S. president-elect Donald Trump Carter Page addresses the audience during a presentation in Moscow, Russia, December 12, 2016. REUTERS/Sergei Karpukhin

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The FBI on Saturday released documents related to the surveillance of former Trump presidential campaign adviser Carter Page as part of a probe into whether he conspired with the Russian government to undermine the 2016 U.S. election.

 

The 412 pages, mostly heavily redacted and made public by the Federal Bureau of Investigation late Saturday, included surveillance applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and warrants surrounding the investigation into Page.

 

"The FBI believes that Page has been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian Government," the surveillance application filed in October 2016 said. The documents released include applications and renewal warrants filed in 2017 after Trump took office. Page has denied being an agent of the Russian government and has not been charged with any crime.

 

Earlier Saturday, the New York Times reported it had received a copy from the Justice Department after it and other news organisations had filed suit.

 

The documents released said "the FBI believes that the Russian Government's efforts are being coordinated with Page and perhaps other individuals associated with" Trump's campaign. It added Page "has established relationships with Russian Government officials, including Russian intelligence officers."

 

Republicans lawmakers have contended that the FBI made serious missteps when it sought a warrant to monitor Page in October 2016 shortly after he left the Trump campaign.

 

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said on Saturday that "these documents provide clear evidence of 'Russia's coordination with Carter Page,' a high-ranking Trump campaign official, 'to undermine and improperly and illegally influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election.'"

 

Last week, a federal grand jury charged 12 Russian intelligence officers with hacking Democratic computer networks in 2016, in the most detailed U.S. accusation yet that Moscow meddled in the presidential election to help Trump. Earlier this year, thirteen other Russians and three Russian companies were indicted on charges of conspiring to interfere with the election.

 

Michael Horowitz, the department's inspector general, said in March that he would review whether the FBI and the Justice Department followed proper procedures when they applied for a warrant to secretly conduct surveillance on Page and his ties to Russia.

 

Republicans have claimed that the FBI used in part a dossier compiled by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele to justify the warrant, and failed to disclose to the court that Steele was employed by a firm funded by Democrats to do opposition research on Trump's business dealings.

 

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-07-22

[mtls2005]

A very useful idiot.

 

Hopefully Devin and Trey are pleased that the FBI is sharing documents. ?

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/384380664/2016-FISA-Application-on-Carter-Page

 

Hmmm, I wonder who "Candidate #1" is?

 

 

 

 

 

[zaphod reborn]

Carter tried to sell himself as an energy expert to Russia.  At a seminar held in Moscow, Page revealed himself as an idiot who knew little about the energy sector.  Certainly not enough to go through the offer to give him a commission on the sale of 19.5% ownership in Rosneft to Exxon.  Trump, whose campaign relied upon Russian asset idiots, warmly welcomed Page into the fold.  Trump further invested in the Rosneft-Exxon deal by nominating Tillerson as Secretary of State.  It was hoped that Tillerson could cement an arctic drilling deal for Exxon-Rosneft.  Obama enacted sanctions which caused Exxon to pull out of the Rosneft purchase, and when Trump realized he couldn't lift the sanctions, he dumped Tillerson.  As a lot of this occurred during the Trump campaign, it justifed a FISA warrant.

[Tug]

Just another swamp critter trying to feed at the trough like the rest of them

[tumama]

1 hour ago, zaphod reborn said:

 it justifed a FISA warrant.

 

The article states that he's not being charged with a crime. Can you elaborate?

[mtls2005]

There was no collusion.

 

OK, maybe some collaboration.

 

Carter Who?

 

Wasn't he a Covfefe Boy?

 

 

[mtls2005]

1 minute ago, tumama said:

The article states that he's not being charged with a crime.

 

Yet.

 

Be patient.

 

 

[tumama]

Just now, mtls2005 said:

There was no collusion.

 

OK, maybe some collaboration.

 

Carter Who?

 

Wasn't he a Covfefe Boy?

 

If there was, why not charge him? 

[mtls2005]

1 minute ago, tumama said:

If there was, why not charge him? 

 

What's the hurry?

 

Unbunch your panties.

 

He'll be indicted.

 

If he doesn't provide useful information he'll face trial on Federal charges, and that won't end well for him.

 

He does appear to be quite imbecilic, and easily played by the Russians, but that's not an excuse for becoming a traitor.

[tumama]

1 minute ago, mtls2005 said:

 

What's the hurry?

 

Unbunch your panties.

 

He'll be indicted.

 

If he doesn't provide useful information he'll face trial on Federal charges, and that won't end well for him.

 

He does appear to be quite imbecilic, and easily played by the Russians, but that's not an excuse for becoming a traitor.

 

Yeah I posted that after your other post. Let's see what happens. 

[Different]

I would call it playing Russian roulette.between Intelligence committee and Mr.lucky douche bag.

[mtls2005]

2 hours ago, Different said:

I would call it playing Russian roulette.between Intelligence committee and Mr.lucky douche bag.

 

He doesn't appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, which is probably why the Russians targeted him.

 

And I'm not sure if he even has a lawyer; his testified before the HIC without a lawyer.

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/7/16616912/carter-page-testimony-trump-russia

 

And he goes on the TV far too often, I mean it's not like he's a sympathetic character.

 

He'll be on CNN State of the Union w/ Jake Tapper in a few hours; that should be a hoot.

 

The FBI talked to him in 2013 when they became aware - through foreign intel - that the Russians had targeted him. At that point, he hadn't done anything illegal, but that didn't stop him from turning on his country for a few rubles a few years later.

[mtls2005]

What to Make of the Carter Page FISA Applications

 

 

The Carter Page FISAs are out via the Freedom of Information Act. Here are a few observations, relatively brief but still just a bit too long for Twitter.

 

First, a huge amount of information is redacted in these FISA applications, but they still represent a monumental disclosure to the public. The government considers FISA applications to be very sensitive—and their disclosure, even heavily redacted, may have long-term, programmatic consequences long after we’re finished with President Trump. The government seems to have accepted that FOIA applies to FISA. Without taking a position on the issue it made me recall this Lawfare post that argues to the contrary.

 

https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-make-carter-page-fisa-applications

[Trouble]

3 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

He doesn't appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, which is probably why the Russians targeted him.

 

And I'm not sure if he even has a lawyer; his testified before the HIC without a lawyer.

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/7/16616912/carter-page-testimony-trump-russia

 

And he goes on the TV far too often, I mean it's not like he's a sympathetic character.

 

He'll be on CNN State of the Union w/ Jake Tapper in a few hours; that should be a hoot.

 

The FBI talked to him in 2013 when they became aware - through foreign intel - that the Russians had targeted him. At that point, he hadn't done anything illegal, but that didn't stop him from turning on his country for a few rubles a few years later.

I suggest you look at his education.  Distinguished graduate of the Naval Academy (top 10 %). Chosen for Trident Scholarship Program in his senior year. Researcher for House Intelligence Committee. MA in National Security Studies from Georgetown University.  He's no dummy.  

 

Paraphrasing Pelosi, she seems to be saying that the documents are "evidence" of Russian's interference.  So far all we see is that Page has not been accused of anything after months of monitoring him in 2016/17 and over a year of investigations. 

[bristolboy]

10 minutes ago, Trouble said:

I suggest you look at his education.  Distinguished graduate of the Naval Academy (top 10 %). Chosen for Trident Scholarship Program in his senior year. Researcher for House Intelligence Committee. MA in National Security Studies from Georgetown University.  He's no dummy.  

I suggest you look at the previously linked-to article in Vox. You know the one that cites his words and not his curriculum vitae.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/7/16616912/carter-page-testimony-trump-russia

And there's this little tidbit from Wikipedia:

After leaving Merrill Lynch in 2008, Page founded his own investment fund, Global Energy Capital with partner James Richard and a former mid-level Gazprom executive, Sergei Yatsenko.^[3][15] The fund operates out of a Manhattan co-working space shared with a booking agency for wedding bands, and as of late 2017, Page was the firm's sole employee.^[2] Other businesspeople working in the Russian energy sector said in 2016 that the fund had yet to actually realize a project.^[2

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page}

[Basil B]

10 hours ago, tumama said:

 

The article states that he's not being charged with a crime. Can you elaborate?

 

 "Page has denied being an agent of the Russian government and has not been charged with any crime."     ...as yet.

[bristolboy]

With the release of new documents, Devin Nunes’s memo on Carter Page has gotten even less credible

Earlier this year, the political world was gripped by a stunning accusation from Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) that the government’s application for a warrant to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page was born of bias and almost entirely reliant on a dossier of information compiled on the dime of Democratic operatives...

As it turns out though, Nunes’s efforts to raise questions about the surveillance warrant, granted by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, were even less robust than they seemed at the time. With the release Friday of a redacted copy of both the initial warrant application targeting Page in October 2016 and the three 90-day extensions of the warrant, we can get a better sense of just how far from the mark the Nunes memo actually was.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/22/with-the-release-of-new-documents-devin-nunes-memo-on-carter-page-has-gotten-even-less-credible/?utm_term=.64231f7d4e53&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

[bristolboy]

Without Evidence, Trump Claims Vindication From Release of Carter Page Documents

BERKELEY HEIGHTS, N.J. — President Trump claimed without evidence on Sunday that his administration’s release of top-secret documents related to the surveillance of a former campaign aide had confirmed that the Justice Department and the F.B.I. “misled the courts” in the early stages of the Russia investigation.

“Looking more & more like the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon (surveillance) for the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC,” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter, referring to the Democratic National Committee.

In a series of early-morning tweets, Mr. Trump left unmentioned how the documents laid out in stark detail why the F.B.I. was interested in the former campaign adviser, Carter Page: “The F.B.I. believes Page has been the subject of targeted recruitment by the Russian government.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/22/us/politics/trump-fisa-carter-page.html

[mtls2005]

9 hours ago, Trouble said:

I suggest you look at his education.  Distinguished graduate of the Naval Academy (top 10 %). Chosen for Trident Scholarship Program in his senior year. Researcher for House Intelligence Committee. MA in National Security Studies from Georgetown University.  He's no dummy.  

 

Yes, he has a decent educational background. He even "got" a PhD...

 

Page received his Ph.D. in 2012 from SOAS, University of London, where he was supervised by Shirin Akiner.[2][10] His doctoral dissertation on the transition of Asian countries from communism to capitalism was rejected twice before ultimately being accepted by new examiners.[16] One of his original examiners later said Page "knew next to nothing" about the subject matter and was unfamiliar with "basic concepts" such as Marxism and state capitalism.[17] He sought unsuccessfully to publish his dissertation as a book; a reviewer described it as "very analytically confused, just throwing a lot of stuff out there without any real kind of argument."[2] Page blamed the rejection on anti-Russian and anti-American bias.[17] He later ran an international affairs program at Bard College and taught a course on energy and politics at New York University.[18][19] In more recent years, he has written columns in Global Policy Journal, a publication of Durham University.

 

You can have a good education and still be a dummy, a dupe, a sap, a flunky prime for Russian recruitment.

 

His interview on Sunday is evidence, he couldn't simply answer "No" when asked if he was a Russian agent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

His interview on Sunday is evidence, he couldn't simply answer "No" when asked if he was a Russian agent.

Page told CNN on Sunday he was never an agent of a foreign power, and that the documents overstated his ties to Russia. Page could not immediately be reached for comment by Reuters.

The link below is from a TV  Reuters article

 

 

[mtls2005]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

Page told CNN on Sunday he was never an agent of a foreign power,

 

Jake teed one up for Page and he could have said "No", but he waffled, prevaricated, dodged, pivoted, stared down at his notes. He has a bad tell when he lies: his lips move.

 

 

 

[riclag]

On 7/21/2018 at 11:02 PM, tumama said:

 

The article states that he's not being charged with a crime. Can you elaborate?

The  Fisa document  states, the FBI reviewed and verified the application for accuracy!!!!!!!

The Steele Dossier was never verified!

This doesn't look good for the nations leading law enforcement top officials , the so called Career Professionals ! What a joke It's not a Fisa warrant its a redacted warrant! PT should have it unredacted except for crucial names a sources. 

Chuck Schumer said it best. "You don't fool with Intel,they have "six ways to Sunday" to get back at you".

[Chomper Higgot]

21 minutes ago, riclag said:

The  Fisa document  states, the FBI reviewed and verified the application for accuracy!!!!!!!

The Steele Dossier was never verified!

This doesn't look good for the nations leading law enforcement top officials , the so called Career Professionals ! What a joke It's not a Fisa warrant its a redacted warrant! PT should have it unredacted except for crucial names a sources. 

Chuck Schumer said it best. "You don't fool with Intel,they have "six ways to Sunday" to get back at you".

The basis for investigation and the original FISA request was Intelligence received from an Australian diplomat (following Trump campaign worker running his drunken mouth off).

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

 

 

”The Steele Dossier was never verified” is a strawman argument.

 

The Steele Dossier has held up to examination, many of its claims proven correct by Mueller’s investigation and journalists, parts as yet un proven, but no part proven incorrect.

[riclag]

14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The basis for investigation and the original FISA request was Intelligence received from an Australian diplomat (following Trump campaign worker running his drunken mouth off).

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

 

 

”The Steele Dossier was never verified” is a strawman argument.

 

The Steele Dossier has held up to examination, many of its claims proven correct by Mueller’s investigation and journalists, parts as yet un proven, but no part proven incorrect.

 Just who is this Australian diplomat? 

http://thehill.com/376858-australian-diplomat-whose-tip-prompted-fbis-russia-probe-has-tie-to-clintons

The Steele Dossier was a salacious unverified opposition research report and still is. The only thing that the FBI needed to verify the report  is a  collaborating source, and that would be Michael Isikoff,Yahoo News,unfortunately that was a lie.Isikoff got the same infoe from C.Steele.

Lets face it,six ways to sunday happened, the world would of never known about it ,if HC was elected.

[stevenl]

10 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Just who is this Australian diplomat? 

http://thehill.com/376858-australian-diplomat-whose-tip-prompted-fbis-russia-probe-has-tie-to-clintons

The Steele Dossier was a salacious unverified opposition research report and still is. The only thing that the FBI needed to verify the report  is a  collaborating source, and that would be Michael Isikoff,Yahoo News,unfortunately that was a lie.Isikoff got the same infoe from C.Steele.

Lets face it,six ways to sunday happened, the world would of never known about it ,if HC was elected.

The FBI didn't need the report at all, more than enough other reasons to put him under surveillance.

[Chomper Higgot]

41 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Just who is this Australian diplomat? 

http://thehill.com/376858-australian-diplomat-whose-tip-prompted-fbis-russia-probe-has-tie-to-clintons

The Steele Dossier was a salacious unverified opposition research report and still is. The only thing that the FBI needed to verify the report  is a  collaborating source, and that would be Michael Isikoff,Yahoo News,unfortunately that was a lie.Isikoff got the same infoe from C.Steele.

Lets face it,six ways to sunday happened, the world would of never known about it ,if HC was elected.

Diplomat ‘has ties’ to career politician shocker!

 

Meanwhile in 2013 Carter Page was signing and posting letters declaring himself an ‘informal advisor to the Kremlin’.

 

Man who declares himself advisor to the Kremlin is put under surveillance when he joins Presidential election campaign - What a disgusting example of monitoring threats to the US from a known foreign intelligence organisation.

[riclag]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

The FBI didn't need the report at all, more than enough other reasons to put him under surveillance.

 hogwash,the rats made the story up! Hypothetical 's

McCabe was reported as saying the Dossier was crucial !

FISA Applications Confirm: The FBI Relied on the Unverified Steele Dossier

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/carter-page-fisa-applications-fbi-steele-dossier/

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Diplomat ‘has ties’ to career politician shocker!

 

Meanwhile in 2013 Carter Page was signing and posting letters declaring himself an ‘informal advisor to the Kremlin’.

 

Man who declares himself advisor to the Kremlin is put under surveillance when he joins Presidential election campaign - What a disgusting example of monitoring threats to the US from a known foreign intelligence organisation.

Can we see those letters,by chance? Got a link. And if so ,it's 2013. Why didn't the Trump loving intel agencies declare to Mr. Trump ,hey we investigated this guy before .How  disgusting the DOJ and FBI officials conducted themselves. Don't fool with intel they have "Six ways to Sunday" to get ya,Schumer said

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Diplomat ‘has ties’ to career politician shocker!

 

Meanwhile in 2013 Carter Page was signing and posting letters declaring himself an ‘informal advisor to the Kremlin’.

 

Man who declares himself advisor to the Kremlin is put under surveillance when he joins Presidential election campaign - What a disgusting example of monitoring threats to the US from a known foreign intelligence organisation.

Can we see those letters,by chance? Got a link. And if so ,it's 2013. Why didn't the Trump loving intel agencies declare to Mr. Trump ,hey we investigated this guy before .How  disgusting the DOJ and FBI officials conducted themselves. Don't fool with intel they have "Six ways to Sunday" to get ya,Schumer said

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

Can we see those letters,by chance? Got a link. And if so ,it's 2013. Why didn't the Trump loving intel agencies declare to Mr. Trump ,hey we investigated this guy before .How  disgusting the DOJ and FBI officials conducted themselves. Don't fool with intel they have "Six ways to Sunday" to get ya,Schumer said

The letters are widely reported and are not contested by Carter Page.

 

You’ll find a search function somewhere on your own computer.