UK voters should make final Brexit decision if talks with EU collapse: poll

[Patriot1066]

1 hour ago, Orac said:

 

To be fair Farage looks quite reasonable compared to UKIPs current leader who takes incompetence to a whole new level. Interesting that fishing is back in the conversation again as we have seen here today, just a shame that Batten slept in when he was supposed to be talking about it in front of the fishmongers at Lowestoft yesterday.

 

 

 

 

Agreed ????????

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, Patriot1066 said:

Bannock burn was much later 1315?and we lost to the Scots or actually didn’t loose retreated and re grouped 

 

but it were repelled 

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bannockburn

Edited November 1, 2018 by Grouse

[Patriot1066]

20 minutes ago, Grouse said:

You really want to force the Germans to spend 2% of 3 trillion per annum on defence. Any idea how many Leopard IIs that would buy.

 

No, nonsense. Enjoy the peace dividend and stop pissing off Russia by parking tanks on their front lawn.

Yes as they don’t spend what we do then expect us to protect them?

 

but I also agree no point in poking the Bear unless you can wake it with a big pot of honey?

[Patriot1066]

7 minutes ago, Grouse said:

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bannockburn

Ok I was a year out????

[Grouse]

11 minutes ago, Patriot1066 said:

Yes as they don’t spend what we do then expect us to protect them?

 

but I also agree no point in poking the Bear unless you can wake it with a big pot of honey?

Do the mathematics 

 

Who said 2%??

 

I like the idea of spending less on "defence"

 

We have a viable nuclear deterrent 

 

No, if Germany are happy with 1%, fine with me!

 

What about sovereignty? I thought that was THE big deal for Brexiters. I don't give a damn what Trump's opinion is. On anything.

 

you fancy 6000 new Leopard II main battle tanks? Every year. ????

Edited November 1, 2018 by Grouse

[Grouse]

2 minutes ago, Patriot1066 said:

Ok I was a year out????

No you sp****c. The result of the battle ????

[melvinmelvin]

38 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Great stuff, keep it coming

 

Alfred would be a better exemplar than St George for sure! Or AEthelstan even better!

 

Did you ever visit Winchester Cathedral to see the remains of the Anglo Saxon kings? (as you know, but some may not, Winchester was the capital before London) Anyway Cromwell's "model army" smashed all the casks so that they're all mixed up! 

May Scott allow,

but to make it clear that UK's mishap with EEC/EU has zilch to do with Norway,

 

the brawl at Stamford Bridge has a much more prominent place in Norwegian history than in yours

there was a huge Viking army at the Bridge, huge, it was beaten to pieces,

that defeat really marked the end of the Viking's messing around on the foggy islands - a few years later

the end of the Viking era at large was coming

(had the Vikings hacked that brawl in usual and good style then they would largely have controlled the whole of England)

 

the Viking menace in "UK" was twofold,

Norwegians happy with robbing assets, burning down places,

nicking lasses for being slaves at home, going to the pub - having a ball

Danes, more cunning and organized - arranging trade agreements,  claiming taxes, hence, ruling - making long term satang

 

 

[Orac]

Criminal investigation started into Arron Banks:

“Mr Banks was not the true source of the £8m reported as loans
The parties to the financial transactions that led to the £8m being paid into BFTC’s bank account included a non-qualifying or impermissible company, Rock Holding Limited, which was incorporated in the Isle of Man
Leave.EU, Elizabeth Bilney (the responsible person for Leave.EU), BFTC, Mr Banks, and possibly others, concealed the true details of these financial transactions, including from us, and also did so by knowingly making statutory returns/reports which were incomplete and inaccurate, or false
Various criminal offences may have been committed”

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/our-work/roles-and-responsibilities/our-role-as-regulator-of-political-party-finances/sanctions/report-on-investigation-into-payments-made-to-better-for-the-country-and-leave.eu

http://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/news/1498-nca-initiates-investigation-following-electoral-commission-referral


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[mommysboy]

Brexitgate!

 

Serious stuff.  

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/01/arron-banks-referred-to-agency-over-suspected-offences-in-brexit-campaign

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, mommysboy said:

That's mad. Surely an orderly transition is preferable. 

Mad back at ya. I said properly not disorderly.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, tebee said:

82% of housing in Singapore is on cheap goverment 99 years leases - I can't see the UK investing in social housing like that! It's also a dictatorship which makes things easier.

 

I'm not sure just how much of the Singapore model we would want to adopt. 

No point trying to compare the UK to Singapore. Not doable.  

Edited November 1, 2018 by nauseus

[Patriot1066]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

No point trying to compare the UK to Singapore. No doable.  

Singapore is pretty much a mini culture so can’t be compared.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, tebee said:

An abiding quality of rational, intelligent people is the ability, when faced with the vicissitudes of life, to calmly and confidently change one’s mind without appearing foolish or losing the respect of one’s peers.

 

Indeed, there are few things likely to undermine that respect more than a stubborn refusal to accept when one is clearly wrong. Such wisdom and maturity separates adults from children and the enlightened from the ideologue.

 

Having the courage to admit “we’re making a big mistake here”, however confident we might have been in our chosen course of action, is what differentiates real leaders from those timid souls, too fearful of derision to do the right thing.

 

https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/opinion-time-to-grow-up-and-change-our-minds-about-brexit

 

 

We need a "puke" emoji.

[Patriot1066]

9 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

Brexitgate!

 

Serious stuff.  

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/01/arron-banks-referred-to-agency-over-suspected-offences-in-brexit-campaign

Yawn

[Patriot1066]

43 minutes ago, Orac said:

Criminal investigation started into Arron Banks:

“Mr Banks was not the true source of the £8m reported as loans
The parties to the financial transactions that led to the £8m being paid into BFTC’s bank account included a non-qualifying or impermissible company, Rock Holding Limited, which was incorporated in the Isle of Man
Leave.EU, Elizabeth Bilney (the responsible person for Leave.EU), BFTC, Mr Banks, and possibly others, concealed the true details of these financial transactions, including from us, and also did so by knowingly making statutory returns/reports which were incomplete and inaccurate, or false
Various criminal offences may have been committed”

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/our-work/roles-and-responsibilities/our-role-as-regulator-of-political-party-finances/sanctions/report-on-investigation-into-payments-made-to-better-for-the-country-and-leave.eu

http://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/news/1498-nca-initiates-investigation-following-electoral-commission-referral


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Yawn

[mommysboy]

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Mad back at ya. I said properly not disorderly.

Sorry. I thought I was responding to the Patriot, who seemed to be in favour of no transition period.

[Patriot1066]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

We need a "puke" emoji.

Yawn

[Patriot1066]

Just now, Patriot1066 said:

Yawn

 

Just now, mommysboy said:

Sorry. I thought I was responding to the Patriot, who seemed to be in favour of no transition period.

Actually we shouldn’t have needed a transition if we had got in with the job in the first place 30 months ago!

 

But both the EU need a transition or it will be quiet chaotic on both sides.

[mommysboy]

1 minute ago, Patriot1066 said:

Yawn

You seem to be exceptionally tired just lately!????

[Patriot1066]

Just now, mommysboy said:

You seem to be exceptionally tired just lately!????

Dam bed spell checker ????

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

I'll try that in my Grouse. Less air so denser I imagine. I once made the error here of suggesting that colder ice would be good. I was wrong. No, really. I now understand that most of the energy is from latent heat of fusion not the temperature.

 

latent heat of fusion water j/kg

 

Stop sniggering at the back Nauseus!

I nearly spilled my Nash on the rocks!

[Patriot1066]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I nearly spilled my Nash on the rocks!

??????

[damascase]

8 minutes ago, Patriot1066 said:

 

Actually we shouldn’t have needed a transition if we had got in with the job in the first place 30 months ago!

 

But both the EU need a transition or it will be quiet chaotic on both sides.

‘Quiet chaotic’ doesn’t sound too bad, but I’m afraid that ‘quite chaotic’ is a better description of the situation, particularly on the UK side........

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

Great stuff, keep it coming

 

Alfred would be a better exemplar than St George for sure! Or AEthelstan even better!

 

Did you ever visit Winchester Cathedral to see the remains of the Anglo Saxon kings? (as you know, but some may not, Winchester was the capital before London) Anyway Cromwell's "model army" smashed all the casks so that they're all mixed up! 

Rotten Roundheads.  

[Patriot1066]

4 minutes ago, damascase said:

‘Quiet chaotic’ doesn’t sound too bad, but I’m afraid that ‘quite chaotic’ is a better description of the situation, particularly on the UK side........

Yes I can’t blame the EU for our political class not been able to negotiate. But it is everyone’s interest to sort things out, no deal doesn’t mean no cooperation?

[Patriot1066]

32 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

Brexitgate!

 

Serious stuff.  

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/01/arron-banks-referred-to-agency-over-suspected-offences-in-brexit-campaign

Yea the political neutral Guardian 

Big Yawn

[Patriot1066]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Rotten Roundheads.  

Yes very rotten ????????

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

No you sp****c. The result of the battle ????

1314. Any Scot I have ever met claims victory, which is fair enough, as the British were routed and scattered all over the place.

[3NUMBAS]

any more votes or refs have been ruled out numerous times by her in charge

[nauseus]

26 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

Sorry. I thought I was responding to the Patriot, who seemed to be in favour of no transition period.

Thanks.