UK voters should make final Brexit decision if talks with EU collapse: poll

[grumpy 4680]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

"Except"......Nice word that, except....

       If the UK was a contributer to the project, then there should be no excepts, European security issues have always been a promise to work together issue, but now they are trying to turn the screw because we are leaving, That's what makes them crooks.

[grumpy 4680]

          If the EU does not want to be more friendly and share security matters, then i would be asking for the UK to leave Nato as well, and let the miserable gits take care of themselves, They are certainly no longer allies.

[bomber]

8 hours ago, tebee said:

He'll be happy with May's deal because a decent transition period will at least give them time to move their manufacturing base to the continent without disrupting production.

spot on,iam pretty sure meetings have already been held by most manufacturers to pull out of the UK in the near future,who can blame them they will be welcomed with open arms by Poland and Slovakia

[nontabury]

2 minutes ago, bomber said:

spot on,iam pretty sure meetings have already been held by most manufacturers to pull out of the UK in the near future,who can blame them they will be welcomed with open arms by Poland and Slovakia

I think that’s been happening over the last 15-20 yrs, while we have been in the E.u.

 

[bomber]

32 minutes ago, grumpy 4680 said:

          If the EU does not want to be more friendly and share security matters, then i would be asking for the UK to leave Nato as well, and let the miserable gits take care of themselves, They are certainly no longer allies.

iam pretty sure they can take care of themselves,the world is not reliant on a British army which usually only goes into action when uncle sam says so,and please no replies about WW1 and WW2 its history move on <deleted>

[grumpy 4680]

13 minutes ago, bomber said:

iam pretty sure they can take care of themselves,the world is not reliant on a British army which usually only goes into action when uncle sam says so,and please no replies about WW1 and WW2 its history move on <deleted>

          You may well be right, but I doubt it,  the UK should not have to come to your aid again, after the way we're being treated now, maybe, just maybe, uncle Sam will not be so keen to go to your aid either if their so pally with UK.

[AlexRich]

2 hours ago, grumpy 4680 said:

          Grouse, I believe your the one totally ill informed, my comments above are truth regarding the EU and crooked politicians, now they want to deny the UK from the Galileo project, and keep the 1:2 billion invested by the UK, I REST MY CASE> EU guilty as charged.

 

The UK decided to leave the EU, this is just one of the consequences. When you quit the golf club they won't let you use the driving range just because you contributed to the roof repair a few years back.

[Kieran00001]

1 hour ago, grumpy 4680 said:

       If the UK was a contributer to the project, then there should be no excepts, European security issues have always been a promise to work together issue, but now they are trying to turn the screw because we are leaving, That's what makes them crooks.

 

The other 27 countries of the EU had a vote.  The majority chose to treat the UK like any other 3rd country after we leave, what is crooked about that?

[rixalex]

 As I, and others, have said before; there is no onus on the EU to offer us anything. If we had said "Give us what we want or it's no deal" they would have  said "OK, no deal it is, then!"
 
We chose to leave the EU, they don't have to offer us anything at all.
 
It seems to me that, like most Brexiteers, you believed that we could have maintained all the advantages of EU membership and simply ditched the bits we don't like. That simply was never going to happen, and those who believed it would fell for Leave's big lie.

Complete misrepresentation of my view. Frankly i'm tired of explaining what my position is. Remainers just twist what is said to suit their agenda.

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[Jip99]

56 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

The UK decided to leave the EU, this is just one of the consequences. When you quit the golf club they won't let you use the driving range just because you contributed to the roof repair a few years back.

 

 

But they would if you pay to play.

Edited December 2, 2018 by Jip99

[mogandave]

          If the EU does not want to be more friendly and share security matters, then i would be asking for the UK to leave Nato as well, and let the miserable gits take care of themselves, They are certainly no longer allies.

Leave NATO, seriously?

And what would the plan be in the event of aggression, have peace rallies?

Love your enemies until they can learn to love themselves?

[AGareth2]

7 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

Leave NATO, seriously?

And what would the plan be in the event of aggression, have peace rallies?

Love your enemies until they can learn to love themselves?

 

when Labour is in power they won't be the enemy

[adammike]

2 hours ago, grumpy 4680 said:

          If the EU does not want to be more friendly and share security matters, then i would be asking for the UK to leave Nato as well, and let the miserable gits take care of themselves, They are certainly no longer allies.

That's funny a brexiteer who are miserable gits on steroids calling out somebody else for being a miserable git, you lot wouldn't know friendly if it came up and kissed you on both cheeks.

[AGareth2]

8 minutes ago, adammike said:

That's funny a brexiteer who are miserable gits on steroids calling out somebody else for being a miserable git, you lot wouldn't know friendly if it came up and kissed you on both cheeks.

Ah!

The Judas Syndrome

[tebee]

47 minutes ago, rixalex said:

Complete misrepresentation of my view. Frankly i'm tired of explaining what my position is. Remainers just twist what is said to suit their agenda.

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So you didn't have the same policy as IDS then?

 

 

[Grouse]

4 hours ago, grumpy 4680 said:

          Grouse, I believe your the one totally ill informed, my comments above are truth regarding the EU and crooked politicians, now they want to deny the UK from the Galileo project, and keep the 1:2 billion invested by the UK, I REST MY CASE> EU guilty as charged.

The EU did not ask the U.K. To leave. Do you think the U.K. Should now be given access to the sensitive parts of Galileo? 

 

We we have pulled out because of that. It will cost 5 billion to have our own system

 

Another great move! Thanks Brexiters!

[AlexRich]

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

But they would if you pay to play.

Not my club.

[Grouse]

3 hours ago, grumpy 4680 said:

          If the EU does not want to be more friendly and share security matters, then i would be asking for the UK to leave Nato as well, and let the miserable gits take care of themselves, They are certainly no longer allies.

The USA will be kicked out first. The U.K. Can follow; similar views these days.

 

As for allies, which side are you on?

[vogie]

14 minutes ago, Grouse said:

The USA will be kicked out first. The U.K. Can follow; similar views these days.

 

As for allies, which side are you on?

Which side are you on, you say.

 

 

[Grouse]

8 minutes ago, vogie said:

Which side are you on, you say.

 

 

How appropriate 

 

1917! Late as always. Last 3 months

 

Late in WW2. Only joined in after H declared war

 

I wouldn't trust them ever. No wonder the EU wants to keep Galileo secure.

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, Grouse said:

How appropriate 

 

1917! Late as always. Last 3 months

 

Late in WW2. Only joined in after H declared war

 

I wouldn't trust them ever. No wonder the EU wants to keep Galileo secure.

They have never been late since though have they, many would say they are very punctual these days, infact sometimes early.

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, AGareth2 said:

Ah!

The Judas Syndrome

 

Play LOUD

[mogandave]

How appropriate 
 
1917! Late as always. Last 3 months
 
Late in WW2. Only joined in after H declared war
 
I wouldn't trust them ever. No wonder the EU wants to keep Galileo secure.

Yeah, we had a lefty in the Whitehouse, it was disgraceful, sorry.

[Grouse]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

 

Yeah, we had a lefty in the Whitehouse, it was disgraceful, sorry.

 

Do explain and give us all a laugh!

[mogandave]

Do explain and give us all a laugh!

Lefty as in left-wing, clear now?

[mogandave]

Oh, and by in the Whitehouse I meant President, something like your your Prime Minister, but with actual power..

[Grouse]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

 

Lefty as in left-wing, clear now?

 

No. You'll need to do better than that. Please carry on....

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

The EU did not ask the U.K. To leave. Do you think the U.K. Should now be given access to the sensitive parts of Galileo? 

 

We we have pulled out because of that. It will cost 5 billion to have our own system

 

Another great move! Thanks Brexiters!

The EU does not want to compensate the UK for any money it invested into the EEC/EU over the last 45 years that still exists as tangible assets, like buildings and quite a bit of wine I wouldn't mind having a go at etc. This could have been fairly handled as a lump sum discount from the final divorce bill but the EU Commission does not play fair does it? So there's no chance of that happening.  

 

Regarding Galileo, I thought this was interesting:

https://www.ft.com/content/a3eb07ac-3278-11e8-ac48-10c6fdc22f03 

 

If they kick us out of this then I hope their satellites all collide simultaneously and blow up in one big bang!  

Edited December 2, 2018 by nauseus
does it?

[mogandave]

No. You'll need to do better than that. Please carry on....

Try Googling left-wing

[Grouse]

741

 

Excellent; loads of negative feedback.

 

Get rid of the distortion!

 

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