car paint scratch advise

[Kwasaki]

The OP has rubbed off paint from another vehicle as I understand and just petrol on rag will deal with that and just repolish after.

If it's rubbed through the lacquer coatings it will need a respray.

If I could see it I would know what to do. 

Edited October 3, 2018 by Kwasaki

[steve73]

My local body-shop charges 1,000 bt per panel - a little more if it needs a bit of filler/repair.  I had some quite extensive (but superficial) rear-end damage sorted for 3k... but he wanted another 3k to repair a single small scratch partway across both doors and the rear panel.  Probably no more than 12 inches in total, and only through the colour coat, not even to the metal.  But he did do a brush touch-up for free, to at least cover the base coat. 

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, fredob43 said:

Question dose using rubbing compound take the clear coat off Yes Or No???

 

Depends what your knowledge of the kind of paint it is and how to do the work required. 

[chopin2]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

The OP has rubbed off paint from another vehicle as I understand and just petrol on rag will deal with that and just repolish after.

If it's rubbed through the lacquer coatings it will need a respray.

If I could see it I would know what to do. 

Ok here it is:

 

So,  the silver car paint is stained with white color. The surface fells just slightly rough, but i can run a fingernail across without getting stuck.

 

Edited October 3, 2018 by chopin2

[CharlieH]

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[HAKAPALITA]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

 

Depends what your knowledge of the kind of paint it is and how to do the work required. 

Well above everyone else.!

[fredob43]

1 hour ago, chopin2 said:

Ok here it is:

 

So,  the silver car paint is stained with white color. The surface fells just slightly rough, but i can run a fingernail across without getting stuck.

 

 

In MHO seems a white car has opened it door onto yours.

Looks like it's gone through to the white undercoat. No amount of rubbing compound will sort that out it will need the panel re-spayed. You could of cause try R/Compound you cant do any damage.

Edited October 3, 2018 by fredob43

[anon2736434]

Just dont wash the car for awhile you'll never even notice it.

[anon2736434]

That just looks like surface paint from the other vehicle, try buffing it out first.

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, chopin2 said:

Ok here it is:

 

So,  the silver car paint is stained with white color. The surface fells just slightly rough, but i can run a fingernail across without getting stuck.

 

Re-spray it's been rubbed down to the primer coat.

If you have class 1 insurance you can get the panel re-spayed.

If not costs at a good auto paint shop very reasonable.

[NanLaew]

5 hours ago, fredob43 said:

 

In MHO seems a white car has opened it door onto yours.

Looks like it's gone through to the white undercoat. No amount of rubbing compound will sort that out it will need the panel re-spayed. You could of cause try R/Compound you cant do any damage.

Wrong. White undercoat?

 

4 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Re-spray it's been rubbed down to the primer coat.

If you have class 1 insurance you can get the panel re-spayed.

If not costs at a good auto paint shop very reasonable.

...and wrong. White primer?

 

It's either white paint or something else that has simply adhered to the surface of the metallic paint.

 

T-Cut (or similar), two minutes, end of.

[rwill]

21 hours ago, transam said:

Clear coat is there to remove small blemishes without touching the colour underneath...Problem with painting a panel is colour match...Silver is a big ploblem, even white if if it is a few years old..

The manual you get with your car should have a paint color code in it the shop can use to get the correct color.

[transam]

11 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Wrong. White undercoat?

 

...and wrong. White primer?

 

It's either white paint or something else that has simply adhered to the surface of the metallic paint.

 

T-Cut (or similar), two minutes, end of.

I agree, if the OP cannot feel a "lip" with his fingernail then it is surface stuff, five minute job..

[transam]

1 minute ago, rwill said:

The manual you get with your car should have a paint color code in it the shop can use to get the correct color.

With age paint shade may alter, a painters nightmare..My chum was a painter, he told me when painting a panel he at times would drift paint onto adjacent panels to trick the eye...Metallic silver can be a ploblem and one must rely on a painters skill.

Lot of crap talked here about clear coat..I can tell you a professional will use his knowledge to see if he can fix a scratch even using 1500 wet and dry paper..

 

A tip for anyone with scratches....Spray WD40 on it then wipe off the residue, if it disappears then it can be polished out....????

[Kwasaki]

11 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Wrong. White undercoat?

 

...and wrong. White primer?

 

It's either white paint or something else that has simply adhered to the surface of the metallic paint.

 

T-Cut (or similar), two minutes, end of.

 

Firstly my silver truck has a white colour primer coat.

 

From my friend :- Most auto primers are black or white, some spray painters only ever one or the other I find black primer is better for metallic paints but white is better for almost everything else.

It's easier to get dark colours to cover white primer than it is to get pale colours to cover black primer.

 

Agree if white paint is on the surface but OP said a finger nail feel is smooth.

Unless he tried to rub it of with something please or anything it remains a mystery unless I could see it in person.

 

The picture doesn't help much so I assume the worse.

 

As I said  " if "  it's rubbed through the lacquer coatings and silver paint through to the primer it will need a respray.

[HAKAPALITA]

Storm In a T Cut.!.


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[impulse]

33 minutes ago, transam said:

With age paint shade may alter, a painters nightmare..My chum was a painter, he told me when painting a panel he at times would drift paint onto adjacent panels to trick the eye...Metallic silver can be a ploblem and one must rely on a painters skill.

Lot of crap talked here about clear coat..I can tell you a professional will use his knowledge to see if he can fix a scratch even using 1500 wet and dry paper..

 

A tip for anyone with scratches....Spray WD40 on it then wipe off the residue, if it disappears then it can be polished out....

 

Agreed on the paint matching- especially in the long term.  It's 50% science, 50% art.  I bought a truck in LOS that had several white panels repainted.  Properly, by a foreigner that babied the thing.  Looked perfect the day he gave me the keys.  2 years on, the colors had weathered differently and in good light it's obvious that some entire panels were resprayed.

 

Looking at the OP's photos, I'd suggest buffing it out with polishing compound (not the rougher "rubbing compound") as best he can and touch it up with a little clear coat, then more buffing and some wax.  Odds are, that will look better in the end than a panel respray, even if it doesn't buff out perfectly.  And cost a lot less, with less downtime. 

 

And, if it doesn't end up okay, he hasn't limited his options.  Not so with a respray.

 

Edited October 4, 2018 by impulse

[anon2736434]

A good read on automotive paint technology. I would still try the meguiars ultimate compound first,  https://www.lazada.co.th/products/meguiars-g17216-ultimate-compound-i266014-s270384.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.1.c5f323358ixkqL&search=1 Like the above poster said if the respray isnt correct now you are doing the whole car.

https://www.paint.org/article/brief-history-automotive-coatings-technology/

 

[CharlieH]

Seems to me to be a "suck it and see" job, as in, use the cutting compund and a "mop" see what you get, if not happy with result go see the paintshop. Logical. ????

[HAKAPALITA]

Bah, just go to No1 Body repair.Job done nicely.

[HAKAPALITA]

Just now, CharlieH said:

Seems to me to be a "suck it and see" job, as in, use the cutting compund and a "mop" see what you get, if not happy with result go see the paintshop. Logical. ????

Our Mops in the Garden the Dog chewed it up

[transam]

4 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Seems to me to be a "suck it and see" job, as in, use the cutting compund and a "mop" see what you get, if not happy with result go see the paintshop. Logical. ????

From my experience in taking my fun ride to car shows that on occasions I would get home to find minor scratches where some plum had leaned on the wing to look at the engine to leave his belt buckle notification, but I have always been able to buff them out...

But perhaps I had built up a stout thickness of quality wax to take the strain..????

[smotherb]

Well, before you go out of your way to find and buy some expensive product which may or may not work; why not try toothpaste.

[petermik]

Many years ago I had a front wing resprayed,great job done perfect colour match (red) without blending in on the door panel however at night parked under a flourescent street light it showed up like a sore thumb....go figure.

[Surasak]

23 hours ago, petermik said:

Try a dab of toothpaste,leave it to dry and polish it out.........

Just be careful of which tooyhpast,. some have micro beads in it.

[HAKAPALITA]

Just now, Surasak said:

Just be careful of which tooyhpast,. some have micro beads in it.

Also stops body rot and need for filler.

[Pdavies99]

On 10/2/2018 at 2:18 PM, Kwasaki said:

'T' cut or a fine compound paste.

 

Or Colour-Back scratch remover, its quite good as it has generic color in the polish, but does not alter existing paint colour, only within the scratch.

 

Another clever "trick" is to spray a light scratch with WD40 then wipe off, you will be amazed!

 

Edited October 4, 2018 by Pdavies99

[impulse]

39 minutes ago, Pdavies99 said:

Another clever "trick" is to spray a light scratch with WD40 then wipe off, you will be amazed!

 

Something that often works for me is to rub some candle wax into the scratch, then buff it out.  Works like the WD40, but lasts a lot longer.

[Raybangkok]

On 10/2/2018 at 8:26 PM, Lacessit said:

Agree, a cutting compound would be best. Any solvent capable of removing the paint will damage the paint underneath.

Brasso worked great on my silver BMW no problems at all

[ukrules]

There is another option which everyone seems to have overlooked : just ignore it, it's only a tiny blemish.