Mystery of the Swedish man's empty bank account - it was a Thai family inside job after all!

[OmarZaid]

13 hours ago, seajae said:

daughter needs to be locked up for theft, thais continually do crap like this because they are never made to face up to their actions, daughter or not, this is really bad parenting, she needs to be made responsible for what she did

 

and just how did she get access ?

[chrisandsu]

18 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

I curious of the crap stuff that she bought online..

Invested it with a european man (African) on some get rich quick scheme ... you don’t invest your own money do you ....

[KittenKong]

21 minutes ago, OmarZaid said:

and just how did she get access ?

The photo shows several ATM withdrawals of 20,000B each. Plus one much bigger withdrawal with the bank code "BR". Not sure what that stands for. Branch withdrawal?

So it seems likely that she had access to the card and that she knew the PIN, and maybe that she had access to the bank book also for the larger withdrawal.

[chicowoodduck]

Well, at least the daughter did not shop until she dropped....lol...????

[ebean001]

14 hours ago, GarryP said:

If it was my daughter, I would be very sorely tempted to pursue the case to teach her a lesson.  

As soon as you pursue it there goes the rest of the money. she will need a lawyer, court costs, finds, etc. You pay or she goes to jail. is that what you want? Then she comes out of jail with nothing. You pay again. Is that good for you and your family? Bottom-line: Keep the legal system out of it if at all possible. It is a internal -family matter. Deal with it.

[chrisinth]

13 hours ago, BestB said:

How naive do you have to be to believe that wife was not on it?

 

how did daughter know account number ? Received OTP and had full access to this account to be able to make purchases online?

 

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Now it has been discovered that the money was in fact all spent in an online shopping spree from the 16th August to the 17th of September by Nonthaphat's eldest daughter

If it was all online spending, all the daughter needed to know was the card details, no need for account number or access to the account apart from this. A snapshot of both sides of the card gives this information.

[moe666]

13 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

It should be the wife who is locked up for divulging the account details to members of her family !!

Why maybe the guy left his bank book about easy for someone to extract the info or maybe they daughter had access for emergency and decided some new stuff was a emergency. So many ready to throw about blame without a clue

[DoctorG]

Don't know about you guys but my son has all my investment details/passwords. I know he would not steal anything because, 1. he is richer than I am, 2. he is a good guy and I would blame myself if I raised a crook, 3. he is not Thai, and 4. he knows if he needed money for whatever reason I would just give it to him.

[Formaleins]

14 hours ago, johng said:

No mention of what the Swedish man
(whose money went missing) thought about it !

I would expect he was last seen roaring and laughing, sides splitting, grin from ear to ear....

[Gracas]

The only victim is the Swedish man, so no harm done.

[Cereal]

My brother, who was 40 something at the time, forged my widowed mother's name on a bank loan for a new car. $10,000. Think about it. They give car loans away in Canada to anyone. But,my brother was a useless lying POS. He reneged and never made a payment. I begged mom to have him arrested but she wouldn't. Thankfully he's dead now. 

[BEngBKK]

How did she think she could get away witth it .....


P.s
This is why I have a transaction limith of 1000 THB on my online shopping card.


 

Edited October 30, 2018 by BEngBKK

[moe666]

55 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

Many Thais know that the world owes them a living.

Yes just like the many young people in the US who do not work and if they do they do not pay the rent. Be a landlord in the US for a while and you will see it all, no thais involved

[bendejo]

Pack the brat off to Pattaya to work off the debt.

 

 

[BestB]

25 minutes ago, chrisinth said:

 

If it was all online spending, all the daughter needed to know was the card details, no need for account number or access to the account apart from this. A snapshot of both sides of the card gives this information.

Do not think so. It usually asks for OTP, just atm card number is not enough. If it has shopping card number attached to account , then yeah possibly , but it also has limit which you set yourself. 

 

But even assuming it’s as easy as you say, she still had to get her hands on actual card to get info from both sides of the card 

[chrisinth]

Just now, BestB said:

Do not think so. It usually asks for OTP, just atm card number is not enough. If it has shopping card number attached to account , then yeah possibly , but it also has limit which you set yourself. 

 

But even assuming it’s as easy as you say, she still had to get her hands on actual card to get info from both sides of the card 

Yep, understand what you are saying, but not all online sites will trigger your (in this case, mine anyway) bank to ask for an OTP. My debit (ATM) card (Bangkok Bank) is setup for OTP but it has never been asked for using either Lazada or AliExpress, yet for some other sites it will ask. The ATM card I use for online purchases has only about 100,000 in it to narrow the risk of anything going wrong.

 

Getting your hands on somebody's credit/debit card is probably easier than you would think, especially if the offender was a trusted family member. Leave your wallet on the kitchen table; it only takes about 15 seconds to remove from wallet, snap two shots (one if you are confident that you can remember the 3 digit security number on the back) and return to wallet.

[catman20]

15 hours ago, johng said:

No mention of what the Swedish man
(whose money went missing) thought about it !

my thoughts exactly, i would want the daughter prosecuted to the full extend of the law regardless of what the wife thought. if necessary the wife could have it on her toes if she never liked it. i would be done with that  family.

Edited October 30, 2018 by catman20

[Jimbo1964]

I'd be pressing charges. 

[catman20]

14 hours ago, manarak said:

I can only repeat my advice to all:

keep your finances private from everyone

agree, many people including myself thinks it will never happen to me.

[catman20]

6 hours ago, nikotin said:

555 who in this world is locking up their own kids! get real!

i would !

[The Deerhunter]

Well wasn't that a big surprise................  NOT!!!!!!!     I bet about 80% of Thai Visa posters were expecting it to be an inside job.   Just like many (but not all) of the other "mysterious bank thefts."  Some are down to dishonest staff.  By own bank have told me that is exactly why their security systems have increased over the last 2 years.

 

The only surprising thing is that no-one admitted to noticing all the new clothes, cute watches and jewellery, makeup, Ipads, 60" curved TV's that she (presumably) now owned.   That is a lot to spend in Thailand without someone in the family noticing it.............

"Oh, have new boyfriend.  He very rich!!!!"    Yeah RIGHT!!!!!!   Someone would have noticed.  She wouldn't have spent it all on milky drinks and honey toast or she would be as big as a house by now.

Edited October 30, 2018 by The Deerhunter

[inThailand]

Lock the wife up and go with the daughter. 

[IAMHERE]

Glad it has been solved and that it was only the one daughter. I'd kinda enjoy the daughters story and what she bought. 

[GarryP]

1 hour ago, ebean001 said:

As soon as you pursue it there goes the rest of the money. she will need a lawyer, court costs, finds, etc. You pay or she goes to jail. is that what you want? Then she comes out of jail with nothing. You pay again. Is that good for you and your family? Bottom-line: Keep the legal system out of it if at all possible. It is a internal -family matter. Deal with it.

The lawyer is her problem. The court costs are her problem. The fines and/or imprisonment are her problem. She made her bed so must lie in it. You shouldn't become an enabler.

 

You are proposing double standards. I suppose you support the redbull family for helping get and keep their son out of the country to avoid facing charges. You accept theft in your own family but not theft by third parties. You shouldn't have it both ways.

 

Edited October 30, 2018 by GarryP

[Gracas]

The only surprise is that there were not more family members involved.

[Mikeasq60]

16 hours ago, johng said:

No mention of what the Swedish man
(whose money went missing) thought about it !

The Swede is filing for divorce at this moment. 

[digger70]

Who would have guessed that,,   

[wvavin]

Sorry mate, you have been infected by the stupidity syndrome. This daughter does not carry your gene so acts differently, stupid!

[Mark mark]

Of Course it is Rouge ? Family members !!! ..... It almost always is ? ... You could have guessed that at the start of this one pretty easily I think ! ... (But, like, What could the Daughter been thinking as she stole, and spent over four hundred thousand Bart ??? .... Like not just a few bucks for a TV and Fridge, .... Buy Four Hundred thousand Bart !!! ...  Like I could not even think of what I would spend all of that on ! ..... Like I honestly think that there is something just basically wrong with People, ...  and well, Families like this I think. Just all a bit to rich, and no real morals, or any real pride or self esteem.)

 

.... The Family Members "Think that they have the right" to their Mothers money, and it also is some times the opposite way around, the Mothers rob their Daughters ! .... TIT ? ... Well it probably happens in many countries, but well, Ones with Strong, ... Often Mindless family structures ? ...  Like Political Nepotism does, .... but these structures are mostly created by the necessity of People countering Financial or Political hard ship of course ? (I think)

 

.... Like in countries with no social security for their people, ....

 

Like in Thailand where there is none ? Well very Little financial help for Old people ? ....

 

Though my Wife, well "Partner"  gets 600 B a Month, and it is going up !!! ... And a free nosh up about once a month, a Big party at Sonkran, and one free all expenses paid for, long bus trip day outing a year, .... which I think is pretty amazing for a so called Second would country ! They even took them over to Katchanarbury and they all stayed on the rafts there for a night once !!! ... The money comes from the Ampor I think ? ... The Very local and last level of town council I think, ... but the central government must give the money to them I suppose, they just decide to spend it this way)

 

... In Australia we have the opposite problem, ... Often the Children do not Give a F' ... and after the Parents have been robed by them, they get left to die alone ! ... (A good statement to attract the TVisas. Trolles ? Right ? Har Har ... Even if it is often pretty accurate in many cases there at least, like another country that I DO know.)

[Srikcir]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the money was in fact all spent in an online shopping spree from the 16th August to the 17th of September by Nonthaphat's eldest daughter

Has she thought of applying for a government job.

She seems to have the necessary skills.