The Official Manchester United Thread

[Bredbury Blue]

5 hours ago, balo said:

Good to se we can focus on top 4 again without getting worried about United.  Wolves were good last night, but Fred and Smalling mistakes gave them the win. 

Maybe "Ole's off the wheel" will be the new chant at the end of the season. 

Im looking forward to the City fans chanting "Ole's under the wheel" when he's axed.

[3 minus 2]

So me  being stupid just for clarity if man city win the champs lge and finish top or second the top 4  them inc get champs lge places

If a top 4 team win the europa lge.it remains the top 4 get champs lge   if a team outside the top 4 wins the europa lge it becomes the top 3 get champs lge places? Is that right .. so no matter what the prem is limited to 4 spots?  ..

[3 minus 2]

1 hour ago, Bredbury Blue said:

He's another potted shrimper like Spidey.

 

I always thought he looked uncomfortable with the ball but if he's another Scholes I'll have to take another  look.

Remember scholes started upfront for utd.. needs a diferent and arguably a better skill set for that..my take on this guy is he's a worker bit in the mold of the last scots boy that captained utd .. solid but arguably not spectacular  but always hapi to be proved wrong esp when young talents concerned.

[RickG16]

22 minutes ago, 3 minus 2 said:

if a team outside the top 4 wins the europa lge it becomes the top 3 get champs lge places? 

Not quite.... if a team from outside the top 4 wins the Champions League, only the top 3 get CL places.

 

If a team from outside the top 4 wins the Europa, them + the top 4 get CL places. 

[sanemax]

24 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

Not quite.... if a team from outside the top 4 wins the Champions League, only the top 3 get CL places.

 

If a team from outside the top 4 wins the Europa, them + the top 4 get CL places. 

Only four Clubs from one Country can play in the CL though , so, Spurs will miss out on a CL spot, when either Chelsea or Arsenal win the Europa league

[RickG16]

8 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Only four Clubs from one Country can play in the CL though , so, Spurs will miss out on a CL spot, when either Chelsea or Arsenal win the Europa league

Afraid not mate. When United won the Europa there were 5 English teams in it. 4th place + us in the qualifiers, 1-3 straight to the groups.

 

To repeat...unlike the CL winners, the slot for winning the Europa is exclusive of those 4 places 

[smokie36]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Only four Clubs from one Country can play in the CL though , so, Spurs will miss out on a CL spot, when either Chelsea or Arsenal win the Europa league

 

Its five.

[sanemax]

20 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

Its five.

From next season, its four .

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, RickG16 said:

Afraid not mate. When United won the Europa there were 5 English teams in it. 4th place + us in the qualifiers, 1-3 straight to the groups.

 

To repeat...unlike the CL winners, the slot for winning the Europa is exclusive of those 4 places 

Not from next season  , an Europa league winner will take the place of the team that finished fourth (If the EL winner doesnt finish top 4)

[RickG16]

46 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Not from next season  , an Europa league winner will take the place of the team that finished fourth (If the EL winner doesnt finish top 4)

Ok... But next season is next season, and this season is this season?

[RickG16]

1 hour ago, Benroon said:

errrrrr but only 14 behind Man Utd though, with 18 to play for

Listen son you're getting way ahead of yourself. Get promoted and beat a couple of big teams, now you want to be in the big boy discussion. It's nothing new, Hudders did it last season. Where are they now.

 

Look I know it's been an emotional 24 hours for you. Take some rest, eat some faggots or whatever your weird food is, and when you wake up tomorrow, remind yourself in the cold light of day you support Wolves. Who haven't been a big club since the 1720s.

[sanemax]

16 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

Ok... But next season is next season, and this season is this season?

Yes, but we were talking about next seasons Champions league and who would qualify if an English team won this season Europa league 

[RickG16]

7 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Yes, but we were talking about next seasons Champions league and who would qualify if an English team won this season Europa league 

Fair enough.. @BangrakBob says differently, I can't be bothered researching at this late hour, so I'll believe whoever comes up with the official source! 

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

Fair enough.. @BangrakBob says differently, I can't be bothered researching at this late hour, so I'll believe whoever comes up with the official source! 

From the 2018–19 season, the UEFA Europa League winners will gain entry to the UEFA Champions League in the group stage.[4] Also from that season, if English clubs win both the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League, and neither finish the Premier League in a position that qualifies them for the UEFA Champions League, the following will happen: The club that won the UEFA Champions League will go straight into the group stage The UEFA Europa League winners will go into the UEFA Champions League group stage The club that finished fourth in the Premier League will transfer into the UEFA Europa League [5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_clubs_in_international_competitions

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_clubs_in_international_competitions

[RickG16]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

From the 2018–19 season, the UEFA Europa League winners will gain entry to the UEFA Champions League in the group stage.[4] Also from that season, if English clubs win both the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League, and neither finish the Premier League in a position that qualifies them for the UEFA Champions League, the following will happen: The club that won the UEFA Champions League will go straight into the group stage The UEFA Europa League winners will go into the UEFA Champions League group stage The club that finished fourth in the Premier League will transfer into the UEFA Europa League [5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_clubs_in_international_competitions

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_clubs_in_international_competitions

Isn't that open to interpretation....  it says if English clubs win both.. So are we sure that doesn't mean if say 5th place wins the CL and 6th place wins the EL?  

[RickG16]

6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

From the 2018–19 season, the UEFA Europa League winners will gain entry to the UEFA Champions League in the group stage.[4] Also from that season, if English clubs win both the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League, and neither finish the Premier League in a position that qualifies them for the UEFA Champions League, the following will happen: The club that won the UEFA Champions League will go straight into the group stage The UEFA Europa League winners will go into the UEFA Champions League group stage The club that finished fourth in the Premier League will transfer into the UEFA Europa League [5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_clubs_in_international_competitions

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_clubs_in_international_competitions

And btw wiki isn't an official source... So we are hoping that little number 5 at the bottom links to the UEFA website!

[BangrakBob]

1 minute ago, RickG16 said:

And btw wiki isn't an official source... So we are hoping that little number 5 at the bottom links to the UEFA website!

Sanemax is usually accurate. 

 

Why you still up on a school night?

[RickG16]

9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

From the 2018–19 season, the UEFA Europa League winners will gain entry to the UEFA Champions League in the group stage.[4] Also from that season, if English clubs win both the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League, and neither finish the Premier League in a position that qualifies them for the UEFA Champions League, the following will happen: The club that won the UEFA Champions League will go straight into the group stage The UEFA Europa League winners will go into the UEFA Champions League group stage The club that finished fourth in the Premier League will transfer into the UEFA Europa League [5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_clubs_in_international_competitions

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_clubs_in_international_competitions

Actually mate if you click that little 5... The source is an article which asks the question... Can 6 Eng teams qualify for the CL? But we aren't discussing that scenario.

[RickG16]

3 minutes ago, BangrakBob said:

 

Why you still up on a school night?

I'm discussing UEFA regulations ????

 

I'm sure @mrbojangles isn't interested. 

[BangrakBob]

3 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

I'm discussing UEFA regulations ????

 

I'm sure @mrbojangles isn't interested. 

yes, like most City fans he is probably not watching his team tonight. 

[mrbojangles]

51 minutes ago, BangrakBob said:

yes, like most City fans he is probably not watching his team tonight. 

I never miss a game and this 2 hours difference makes life much easier now.

 

BTW. Every City fan watches the game, it's just that we're a small club and don't have many fans

[carmine]

8 hours ago, Benroon said:

errrrrr but only 14 behind Man Utd though, with 18 to play for

I think the point you are trying to make is lost on everyone!  The reason there is a big six is because over the season they are consistently "far" better than the rest.  The point you are attempting to dispute is indisputable

[Bredbury Blue]

6 hours ago, RickG16 said:

Listen son you're getting way ahead of yourself. Get promoted and beat a couple of big teams, now you want to be in the big boy discussion. It's nothing new, Hudders did it last season. Where are they now.

 

Look I know it's been an emotional 24 hours for you. Take some rest, eat some faggots or whatever your weird food is, and when you wake up tomorrow, remind yourself in the cold light of day you support Wolves. Who haven't been a big club since the 1720s.

Typical arrogont comments we expect from a ManU fan.

 

Keep on posting Benroon. We all know wolves have been excellent and have caused big problems for all top 6 clubs this season but have let themselves down vs lower clubs. Get the 2nd part right and you'll be challenging european places. Wolves' not ManU's football has been better to watch this season.

 

 

[sotsira]

10 hours ago, RickG16 said:

Isn't that open to interpretation....  it says if English clubs win both.. So are we sure that doesn't mean if say 5th place wins the CL and 6th place wins the EL?  

 

So to clear this up with an easier explanation:-

 

Could the fourth-placed Premier League team miss out on Champions League?

Yes, but there is only one way in which this can happen.

The fourth placed Premier League team will miss out on a spot in the Champions League if English teams outside the top four win both the Champions League and Europa League.

 

That means if, for example, Arsenal were to finish fourth but Chelsea and Manchester United were to finish below them and win the Champions League and Europa League respectively, they would miss out on the top four.

 

 

 

 

[smokie36]

Back to sixth which is a proper reflection of your team this season.

[RickG16]

49 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said:

Back to sixth which is a proper reflection of your team this season.

The table never lies. Let's see what is says at the end of the season.

[BangrakBob]

17 hours ago, RickG16 said:

Listen son you're getting way ahead of yourself. Get promoted and beat a couple of big teams, now you want to be in the big boy discussion. It's nothing new, Hudders did it last season. Where are they now.

 

Look I know it's been an emotional 24 hours for you. Take some rest, eat some faggots or whatever your weird food is, and when you wake up tomorrow, remind yourself in the cold light of day you support Wolves. Who haven't been a big club since the 1720s.

Come on, Wolves have been more enjoyable to watch than United most of this season. 

 

Planned attack on the PL has been done to perfection. Huddersfield weren't even close to this level last season, 11 points better than them already with 6 games to go.

 

Your salty meter is off the charts!

[BangrakBob]

And they've just signed a cracking striker for a bargain price.

 

Best we open a Wolverhampton Wanderers thread Rick, would you like to do the honours?

[RickG16]

1 hour ago, BangrakBob said:

And they've just signed a cracking striker for a bargain price.

 

Best we open a Wolverhampton Wanderers thread Rick, would you like to do the honours?

I wonder if they fancy doubling their money on said striker. And if he fancies doubling his wages.

[BangrakBob]

59 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

I wonder if they fancy doubling their money on said striker. And if he fancies doubling his wages.

Wolves' owner is quite a bit richer than United's. That's why they in the EPL and will be for the foreseeable.