Dutch tourist claims he was abused and had drugs planted on him by Pattaya police

[Henrik Andersen]

If he telling the truth I hope it will go viral and hurt Thailand image so tourists stop comes to Thailand 

to meny bad things happen here now 

[outsider]

Spread this far and wide. The Thais will only learn their lesson when even the trickle of tourists stop coming to LoS - Land of Scams. This is assuming Pieter Van Weele is telling the truth, of course.

Edited January 21, 2019 by outsider

[Dogmatix]

Although he sounds a bit incoherent (who wouldn't be with a king sized hangover after a night of extortion by police in a 3rd world country?) I would put my money on the Dutchman's version being true, over Pattaya plods. Having a tame farang to do the extortion deals for them offsite makes it harder to pin anything on them, although he is likely to shave off a big chunk of the profits, since the plods will probably not know how much he squeezed out of the mark. But it's a numbers game for them. They must extort many farangs but have many other sources of income.  So this is just one income stream and outsourcing the dirty work to someone who can be hung out to dry, if necessary, and on whom they probably already have a lot of things they can charge him with, if he turns bad, makes sense.  Most of these relationships start with someone being arrested and unable to pay the police off but being offered work as a stoolie instead.

Edited January 21, 2019 by Dogmatix

[jacko45k]

32 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

all interrogations ARE supposed to be video recorded...

Cameras were not working...... have we heard that before?

[guest879]

I have been rolled by the na jomtien police before. I wonder what would have happened if he videoed the encounter. its almost like we need to be wearing body cams. 

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, Arjen said:

The Netherlands is the first country who "allowed" the use of soft drugs. And they have the lowest usage in the world, the highest age for first time users, compared to countries who do not allow this.... And it is not "Allowed"in the way everyone can buy unlimited amounts. In fact it is very strict regulated. While other drugs, like alcohol, causes much more problems (Even in Dutch society) but are hardly restricted (as in most other countries).

 

 

I am Dutch, i was teasing the guy. I know the system.

Crazy Dutch system of allowing sales but not allowing to grow (to supply the sales)

[4MyEgo]

I would be interested to know how long he has been with his "girlfriend" she could have easily placed the drugs in his mobile, setting him up for the cops, easy money and a way to pay off her debt to the cops if she had been a naughty girl previously, just food for thought.

 

I believe the Dutchman, and good one him for going to the media, as guilty people don't do that, suffice to say if he was a user he would have paid up and shut up, the dumb cops underestimated his bravery, whether anything will transpire of this remains to be seen, but as most have indicated, social media will deliver a backlash one hopes and the top brass will need to investigate this as the hotel would have CCTV and going back with the Frenchman would not contradict what he is saying, as would CCTV at the police station showing him returning to the police station after being released, ah...please explain Mr two plain clothes cops why you let this guy go and come back, was it to go and get some McDonalds because he was hungry ?

 

Hope they do fleece them out so the public can see how corrupt these clowns are, using police brutality to extract $'s from farang's, even having there French guy to do the translating for them, despicable low life's, I would have done the same at whatever cost to flush them out, although would have waited till I got out of the country, even if that meant relocating my family, to be safer than sorry.

[ebean001]

All you have to do is answer this question...if you were guilty, paid 40,000b, got everything back, and set FREE...

WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

You got it. You would head for the exit, do not pass GO, do not worry about collecting $200....period. It is a no brainer what you would do.

 

But he went to the news. I, therefore, would consider him innocent and wants to help Thailand make pattaya a safer place.

For me, I cancelled my trip to Pattaya.

[4MyEgo]

21 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

although he is likely to shave off a big chunk of the profits, since the plods will probably not know how much he squeezed out of the mark.

They will now, and if they didn't get their fare share, he will probably end up in the gutter somewhere soon.

[Burma Bill]

It all sounds "double dutch" to me!!

[Krataiboy]

Despite government promises over the last four-plus years, corruption remains endemic among the forces of law and order.

 

One of my friends found this out the hard way recently when he went to extend his retirement visa a few days early so he could fly to see his dying father in the UK.

 

Initially, the was turned him down on the grounds that the money in his bank account had been there slightly less than the required three months. Eventually, the interviewing officer offered to fix the problem for 6,000 baht.

 

The same kind of "help", I gather, is being offered by immigration officials here and elsewhere in LOS to increasing numbers of retirees whose income has been pushed below the official limit by the soaraway baht.

 

Like my friend says: "It's all very well having principles, but in some situations there is no alternative but to put your hand in your pocket."

 

Edited January 21, 2019 by Krataiboy

[ChipButty]

Used to happen a lot around Tonglor police area years ago in BKK

[unamazedloso]

dont go on facebook or youll be done for defemation. The only way to deal with these scumnl is tailem and put a bullet in em because no one else will give a hoot. Sad but true. Best make a complaint, let it go and if you dont wana come back then go on fb when your outa here...

Its a stupid corrupt country.

I have had run ins and knew the farang cop now in jail and probably still there from chalong. Thai police are all dirty. They aint police they are like a mafia. Stay away from them..

[Benmart]

Nothing is beyond possibility here. How else can one buy expensive cars, homes and toys on their official earnings? The place is corrupt and dysfunctional on many fronts.

[ChipButty]

6 minutes ago, unamazedloso said:

dont go on facebook or youll be done for defemation. The only way to deal with these scumnl is tailem and put a bullet in em because no one else will give a hoot. Sad but true. Best make a complaint, let it go and if you dont wana come back then go on fb when your outa here...

Its a stupid corrupt country.

I have had run ins and knew the farang cop now in jail and probably still there from chalong. Thai police are all dirty. They aint police they are like a mafia. Stay away from them..

Be careful what you post on FB and be careful what you like and share, get for that also if you do make sure you are not in Thailand

Edited January 21, 2019 by ChipButty

[Orton Rd]

21 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Despite government promises over the last four-plus years, corruption remains endemic among the forces of law and order.

 

One of my friends found this out the hard way recently when he went to extend his retirement visa a few days early so he could fly to see his dying father in the UK.

 

Initially, the was turned him down on the grounds that the money in his bank account had been there slightly less than the required three months. Eventually, the interviewing officer offered to fix the problem for 6,000 baht.

 

The same kind of "help", I gather, is being offered by immigration officials here and elsewhere in LOS to increasing numbers of retirees whose income has been pushed below the official limit by the soaraway baht.

 

Like my friend says: "It's all very well having principles, but in some situations there is no alternative but to put your hand in your pocket."

 

He was fleeced, Chinese around the corner from us did not have enough money in her account, 1k baht put in her passport-no problem! maybe a different scale for whitey.

Edited January 21, 2019 by Orton Rd

[smew]

Same French guy who claimed to be an agent of CSD last year or so resurfaced and is resurrected again  to rip-off tourists .. sure this event will increase Pattaya tourism once European newspapers get a hold of it 

[phycokiller]

its an old story but Hans, the german tp had a habit for extorting tourists. to their credit the tp fired him when I presented evidence. however he got fake police id and continued the habit

[HHTel]

A few months after the coup, I was stopped at a police check point manned by both police and army.  I noticed a soldier videoing and asked why he was doing that.  He replied that it's was for my protection as the RTP have been known to plant drugs in your car and you'd be stopped at the next checkpoint where the drugs would be found.  He was videoing to prevent the police from continuing this scam.

 

So it is a well known procedure.

[Bangalore1]

I do all i can to avoid the police everywhere in the world. They will stich you up in england to get what they want, may be not for money. Some are ok, most are not ok in pattaya. Afterall they run the place.

[Monkeyrobot]

3 hours ago, tifino said:

Can also stand for Thai Police which where the ones in this case.

[Monkeyrobot]

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Unless the Dutchman happens to be an avid ThaiVisa reader, it seems more than just coincidental that he happened to claim a "French guy" working for Pattaya police was trying to extort him on behalf of the local plod... 

 

Where have we heard that same exact account before and how many times tied to one particular French guy who liked to claim his DSI and Thai police affiliations, but who who supposedly later was disowned by the local police there... But then again, maybe that was just temporary until the past heat died down.

 

He was sent to an inactive post until the heat died down. 

[moe666]

Do not carry bags and such with you when out if it cannot fit into your pocket leave at home

[Broeno]

Anyone has a picture of this French guy working for Pattaya police, so we all know his rotten face?

[KneeDeep]

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Unless the Dutchman happens to be an avid ThaiVisa reader, it seems more than just coincidental that he happened to claim a "French guy" working for Pattaya police was trying to extort him on behalf of the local plod... 

 

Where have we heard that same exact account before and how many times tied to one particular French guy who liked to claim his DSI and Thai police affiliations, but who who supposedly later was disowned by the local police there... But then again, maybe that was just temporary until the past heat died down.

 

Could it be the idiot who I saved from getting punched out by some lads from the UK?

They were standing in the road near Walking Street having a chat and he went past on his motorbike. He decided to pull out his fake ID telling them he was "Police". They were discussing amongst themselves as to whether he was police and whether they should deck him.

 

I decided that the lads would be better off enjoying their trip to Pattaya , rather than getting into trouble for assaulting the imbecile, so moved them along. 

They moved along without objection, though one of them asked me if he was really a policeman. I told them that he was not.

Edited January 21, 2019 by KneeDeep

[Destiny1990]

His story is easy to check and get the real culprits but maybe not lol.

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, dutchbull said:

I believe the Dutchman too

I am going to say something here that is going to be unpopular, but it will be known here on Thaivisa that I always say what I think, so here goes.

Anyone found drunk and incapable in public, should be fined and locked up for the night, I emphasis. drunk

and "incapable".

[Psimbo]

4 hours ago, Puccini said:

What or who is TP?

Its a Tourist Police Volunteer Assistant but they prefer the term Tourist police- the mincing plastic cop Walts. That's the farang civies, there is also a Dept of the Thai police whis IS Tourist Police.

 

As an aside to the main story a number of years ago I was coming down a side soi off Walking Street. Dodgy thai geezer sidles up ' you want to buy some drugs'. Clearly stank of a setup so I refused (which I would have done anyway). Surely enough there was a cop hanging around just around the corner. Being a good citizen my 'hey there's a guy around the corner trying to sell drugs' comment didn't go down well as his easy mark walked away grinning. 

Edited January 21, 2019 by Psimbo

[high plane drifter]

I am not coming back to this country

[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, Benmart said:

Nothing is beyond possibility here. How else can one buy expensive cars, homes and toys on their official earnings? The place is corrupt and dysfunctional on many fronts.

The corruption does not bother me, use it to your own advantage. There are plenty of ways.