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An Inconvenient Hypocrisy

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Interesting infomation there Endure, I think the network Drexler was talking about was much more primitive, but if Cerf and Kahn wrote the Internet Protocol that got ius to where we are today, what the heck has Al Gore got to do with it?

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Did he really invent the internet? I think not.
The Internet was developed by DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) as a network that was resilient and able to route round any problems that it found. If there are and real 'inventors' of the internet they are Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn who defined the Internet Protocol, the system on which it all runs.

Guys,

Of course Al Gore didn't invent the internet. It's one of his more infamous quotes.I was just using what he once said as a joke when I met him. He certainly thought it was funny!

And you would have probably have done the same if you had a chance to meet him too. :o

Interesting infomation there Endure, I think the network Drexler was talking about was much more primitive, but if Cerf and Kahn wrote the Internet Protocol that got ius to where we are today, what the heck has Al Gore got to do with it?

He's a politician and thus, like all other politicians, likes to claim credit for anything that he can get away with :o

Interesting infomation there Endure, I think the network Drexler was talking about was much more primitive, but if Cerf and Kahn wrote the Internet Protocol that got ius to where we are today, what the heck has Al Gore got to do with it?

He legitimately coined the phrase Information Superhighway.

Interesting infomation there Endure, I think the network Drexler was talking about was much more primitive, but if Cerf and Kahn wrote the Internet Protocol that got ius to where we are today, what the heck has Al Gore got to do with it?

He legitimately coined the phrase Information Superhighway.

You might like to read what Cerf and Kahn themselves wrote about VP Al Gore and his involvement first, Robski.

Al Gore's support of the Internet, by V.Cerf and B.Kahn

Al Gore and the Internet

By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf

Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the

Internet and to promote and support its development.

No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the

Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among

people in government and the university community. But as the two people

who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the

Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a

Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to

our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time.

Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his

role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the

initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have

argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover,

there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's

initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving

Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and

promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it

is timely to offer our perspective.

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed

telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the

improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official

to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact

than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily

forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial

concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even

earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we

know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in

the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual

leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high

speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on

how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating

the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.

As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate

what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into

an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials

in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the

passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in

1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education

Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the

spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.

As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as

well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies

that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for

continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private

sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of

extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,

approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore

provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the

Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven

operation.

There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid growth

since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political support

for its privatization and continued support for research in advanced

networking technology. No one in public life has been more intellectually

engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the

Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this effort, both in the

councils of government and with the public at large.

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value

of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and

consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American

citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.

No one in public life has been more intellectually

engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the

Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this effort, both in the

councils of government and with the public at large.

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value

of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and

consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American

citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.

Thanks SBK.

What a smart guy, seems he did have the gift of foresight when it came to looking at the future, maybe he could be right about sorting out global warming too.

He is a dweeb with no personality who is married to a controlling b*tch.

Can't we do better than this? :o

He is a dweeb with no personality who is married to a controlling b*tch.

Can't we do better than this? :o

Is that really the best criticism you can come up with? I guess being confronted with facts that refute media spin forces you to criticise his personality and his wife. Shame on you.

No, I can come up with plenty of other stuff like what a hypocrite he is about "saving the enviroment" and taking money from big tobacco, but his robotic personality and obnoxious wife are why he will never be President, so I thought that I would mention that first. :o

No, I can come up with plenty of other stuff like what a hypocrite he is about "saving the enviroment" and taking money from big tobacco, but his robotic personality and obnoxious wife are why he will never be President, so I thought that I would mention that first. :o

Oh, did he declare? I guess I missed it on the news.

I guess intelligence and foresight aren't good enough these days. Better to let daddy pay your way in, eh?

I'm sure daddy would have bought his way in if he could have afforded it.

Little Al didn't get in to those expensive schools he attended for free. :o

I think Al Gore is doing more for the worldwide image of the U.S. than you or your vainglorious president.

Oh, did he declare? I guess I missed it on the news.

Well, he DID run in 2000, and people said the same thing back then.

I support all US Politicians running.....................................and running and running and running.

( one day the rest of the world will catch the ##$$%^^^&%% )

Oh, did he declare? I guess I missed it on the news.

Well, he DID run in 2000, and people said the same thing back then.

I guess thats why he garnered the popular vote by about 500,000 votes :o

Regardless of what side we're all on, can we ever let go of the 2000 election?

Things never go anything but bad when we start on the US politics in here.

Regardless of what side we're all on, can we ever let go of the 2000 election?

Things never go anything but bad when we start on the US politics in here.

Very true cdnvic, very true. :o

How about this rebuttal of the OP from CNN:

Bush called for nations to hold a series of meetings, beginning this fall, to set a global emissions goal. Each nation then would have to decide on how to achieve the goal, White House officials said.

"The United States will work with other nations to establish a new framework for greenhouse gas emissions for when the Kyoto Protocol expires in 2012," the president said.

"So my proposal is this: By the end of next year, America and other nations will set a long-term global goal for reducing greenhouse gases. To develop this goal, the United States will convene a series of meetings of nations that produce the most greenhouse gases, including nations with rapidly growing economies like India and China.

"Each country would establish midterm management targets and programs that reflect their own mix of energy sources and future energy needs," he said. "In the course of the next 18 months, our nations will bring together industry leaders from different sectors of our economies, such as power generation, and alternative fuels and transportation."

Guess Bush has been sucked into the propaganda too. :D

Regardless of what side we're all on, can we ever let go of the 2000 election?

Things never go anything but bad when we start on the US politics in here.

Very true cdnvic, very true. :o

How about this rebuttal of the OP from CNN:

Bush called for nations to hold a series of meetings, beginning this fall, to set a global emissions goal. Each nation then would have to decide on how to achieve the goal, White House officials said.

"The United States will work with other nations to establish a new framework for greenhouse gas emissions for when the Kyoto Protocol expires in 2012," the president said.

"So my proposal is this: By the end of next year, America and other nations will set a long-term global goal for reducing greenhouse gases. To develop this goal, the United States will convene a series of meetings of nations that produce the most greenhouse gases, including nations with rapidly growing economies like India and China.

"Each country would establish midterm management targets and programs that reflect their own mix of energy sources and future energy needs," he said. "In the course of the next 18 months, our nations will bring together industry leaders from different sectors of our economies, such as power generation, and alternative fuels and transportation."

Guess Bush has been sucked into the propaganda too. :D

Total BBS (BushBullshit).

He backtracked on Kyoto as soon as he became president and now he's proposing things beyond his term of office. This subject has obviously been on his mind for several years , he just managed to keep it from everybody else. I totally fail to see the point of his nonsense. In 2000 it might have been reasonable but now , who cares what he thinks ?

Who in 1997 championed the privatisation of California's National Oil Reserve, and the subsequent drilling by Occidental that resulted in serious environmental damage, destruction to a sacred Indian burial ground and a windfall for his family trust's Occidental stocks? (Occidental also put a pipeline through the Colombian rain forest.)

Al Gore.

  • 2 months later...

From Boonies link:

Of 528 total papers on climate change (from 2004-Feb 2007), only 38 (7%) gave an explicit endorsement of the consensus. If one considers "implicit" endorsement (accepting the consensus without explicit statement), the figure rises to 45%. However, while only 32 papers (6%) reject the consensus outright, the largest category (48%) are neutral papers, refusing to either accept or reject the hypothesis.

Wait sbk - there's more in a piece called "Calling out the global warming alarmists" :o

"Dr. Bob Carter, a research professor at James Cook University (Queensland, Australia), and Tom Harris, Executive Director of Canada's Natural Resources Stewardship Project, have laid it on the line about global warming alarmists in an article that appeared in the Canadian Free Press. Carter studies ancient environments and climate. The Natural Resources Stewardship Project has undertaken a project they call Understanding Climate Change.

Their article explored the shortcomings of the science that is so shaky a school girl (albeit a rather precocious one) like Kristen Byrnes, armed with a rudimentary knowledge of science and a small dose of courage, can challenge the myriad investigators funded by federal and UN billions."

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Their article explored the shortcomings of the science that is so shaky a school girl (albeit a rather precocious one) like Kristen Byrnes, armed with a rudimentary knowledge of science and a small dose of courage, can challenge the myriad investigators funded by federal and UN billions."

A small bloke with a pitch fork can do it.

I know that I have posted this image before, but it's well worth a re-run for the newer 47ers.

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We are just coming out of the longest 'cool' period the world has seen since it came into existence. This is a rock solid fact and based on this trend the global average temperature of the earth will rise by 10 C over the next few thousand years, and there is nothing we can do about it except speed it up by an infinitesimal amount.

We are just a bug compared to the forces of nature...... but developing countries are being told by the allegedly developed countries that they have to cut back on their power consumption, reduce emissions etc etc ..... I wonder why.

Wait until Yellowstone goes pop. then you will see some dramatic climate change (I doubt it will happen in my lifetime, but you never know)

Boon Mee finds new source of global warming....

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Al Gore invented global warming and internet porn.

I'll bet if that other fellow hadn't beat him to it he'd have invented Islam.

It's only brave souls like Boony who are trying to have him euthanased before he invents something else.

:o

^ Nice one, FS. I totally agree. Booners is doing a great job flushing out fakers. Gore is one of the best at his craft.

Al Gore invented global warming and internet porn.

I'll bet if that other fellow hadn't beat him to it he'd have invented Islam.

It's only brave souls like Boony who are trying to have him euthanased before he invents something else.

:o

"invented" ? :D

I believe "divine revelation" is the correct term :D

Al Gore and the other morons want you to believe there is a consensus in the science world over global warming with 99+% of the scientist agreeing and some rogue ones 'failing to see the error in their ways'.

But as everything else they put forward, it's hogwash.

http://www.dailytech.com/Survey+Less+Than+...article8641.htm

WASHINGTON - Only a third of the world’s polar bears may be left within 50 years because of thinning sea ice from global warming in the Arctic, the U.S. Geological Survey said Friday

The agency projects that polar bears during that time also will lose 42 percent of the Arctic range they need to live in during summer in the Polar Basin when they need to hunt and breed.

Mark Myers, the USGS director, said the findings from U.S. and Canadian scientists are based on six months of new studies, during which the health of three polar bear groups and their dependency on Arctic sea ice were examined using “new and traditional models.[Those same models that can’t predict weather next week, right? -FC]”

They were made public to help guide Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne’s decision expected in January on his agency’s proposal to add the polar bear to the government’s endangered species list.

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