Pakistan airspace currently closed

[tso310]

Following the military action between the 2 countries Pakistan airspace has been closed. As per usual check with your airline as delays will occur, but expect to be told to checkin at the normal time. Two casualties are BR67 and TG916 which both returned to BKK while on route to LHR. The return flights from LHR to BKK due to arrive tomorrow lunchtime have been cancelled. Flights are diverting around Pakistan airspace. 

[KhunBENQ]

I read about the silly wargames but was not aware that the complete(!) Pakistan airspace is closed.

Very bad news.

[steve187]

just nothing above pakistan, other than an UIA staying close to the sea, showing on flight radar

[KhunBENQ]

33 minutes ago, tso310 said:

BR67

Bad surprise!

From flighradar:

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27 Feb 2019

Bangkok (BKK)

London (LHR)

B77W (B-16713)

—

13:05

13:36

19:20

Diverted to BKK

 

Edited February 27, 2019 by KhunBENQ

[tso310]

The EVA and Thai a/c had to dump fuel over Thai territory before landing. I believe Russian flights are being impacted the worst. The biggest problem for European and ME flights is congestion on the southerly route. BA10 went to the south. Don't understand why EVA or Thai returned.

[NCC1701A]

[KhunBENQ]

1 minute ago, tso310 said:

Don't understand why EVA or Thai returned.

Permissions granted for the alternative route?

Enough fuel for the extra miles?

 

[NCC1701A]

Two Indian pilots in Pak custody. Their MiG-21 was lured by two PAF F-16s into an air def ambush. The F-16s made shallow ingress into Indian airspace, dropped bombs, and waited for IAF MiGs that scrambled. Then F-16s turned back, MiGs followed, were shot down by air defence guns.

 

 

Edited February 27, 2019 by NCC1701A

[KhunBENQ]

1 minute ago, NCC1701A said:

Something to be "proud of"

[tso310]

2 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Permissions granted for the alternative route?

Enough fuel for the extra miles?

 

Possibly permissions not given due to ATC workload. Both a/c would have enough fuel as the diversions from their position would not have been large.

[Dumbastheycome]

Now I wonder whats  happening  or about  to  while we are all looking  that way ?????

Venezuala "saved" ?

[KhunBENQ]

From AirAsia website:

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Travel Alert: We are closely monitoring the situation in Northern India and any impact to our Amritsar and Srinagar services. Please check your flight status for up-to-date information

Seems that some northern Indian destinations might also be affected.

 

[KhunBENQ]

1 hour ago, tso310 said:

I believe Russian flights are being impacted the worst.

To Moscow and for same reason Finnair hit hard, BKK to HEL.

Fuel stop(?) at DWC (Dubai World Central Airport, not the main DXB)!

And continue from there, total delay 5 hours or so.

[NCC1701A]

Billions Could Die If India and Pakistan Start a Nuclear War

 

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/billions-could-die-if-india-pakistan-start-nuclear-war-21623

[howerde]

Tonights thai flight from london to bankok is cancelled

 

[NCC1701A]

wait...the fallout would head to the West so nothing to worry about. Party on.

 

 

[Moonlover]

No surprise really. No one wants another MH17.

[CharlieH]

Reported posts removed.

[BestB]

2 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

I read about the silly wargames but was not aware that the complete(!) Pakistan airspace is closed.

Very bad news.

Pakistan has claimed its shot down 2 Indian jets, so its escalating fast.

 

India denied claims but Pakistan produced 1 pilot that they captured who confirms his rank, name etc

 

 

[tso310]

looks like Thai have cancelled all of their European outbound flights tonight and all inbounds appear to have been cancelled for tomorrow morning arrivals. Lufthansa still scheduled to Frankfurt. Rossiya to Moscow currently 390 minutes delay. Tomorrows Sunexpress to Dusseldorf cancelled. BA flight still scheduled for tomorrow. Flights by Emirates, Qatar and Etihad running as normal.

[KhunBENQ]

TG indeed cancelled all flights to Europe!

Crazy.

Others are fighting through. Screenshot from this morning:

 

[KhunBENQ]

Chaos at Suv. Inacceptable handling by Thai Airways.

 

[gk10002000]

wow.  People with animals in their little crates, people with medicines, medication needs, maybe lots of pre-checked in baggage that is now ...where in the bowels of BKK airport? 

[CeeGee]

Has anyone seen any indication as to when normal flight paths will be restored as there is very little in (western) news about the India/Pakistan conflict nowadays. 

[KhunBENQ]

1 hour ago, CeeGee said:

Has anyone seen any indication as to when normal flight paths will be restored as there is very little in (western) news about the India/Pakistan conflict nowadays. 

There were some exceptions as I have seen yesterday (Emirates and Qatar flying over to east Asia, crossing south to north).

Currently no east-west crossings.

Still going south of Pakistan or Thai Airways via China.

Planes in the air are going to/from Pakistani airports.

Afghanistan seems to be reopened but of little interest while Pakistan is closed.

One source from the net (which credibility I can not rank) says:

https://www.geo.tv/latest/230315-flight-operations-to-remain-suspended-for-24-more-hours-at-some-airports-caa

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Pakistan's airspace will be completely reopened on March 8 at 1pm, the aviation authority added. 

 

Edited March 7, 2019 by KhunBENQ

[tso310]

Transiting between India and Pakistani airspace is still closed, however flights to and from Pakistani airports are now active including Thai flights to Karachi.

The airspace was due to reopen today at 15:00 Pakistan time, but no sign yet.

Edited March 9, 2019 by tso310
Added more info

[KhunBENQ]

Thai Airways seems to have given up that China/Russia route.

Now passing south like all the others (e.g. TG 916 to London).

Edited March 9, 2019 by KhunBENQ

[tso310]

An area of Pakistani airspace has just reopened. This is the area over Balochistan which is in the west of the country. So still a bit of a detour but should ease some congestion. TG916 and 966 and BR67 appear to be heading in that direction. Air India 157 DEL-CPH is the first flight and is now approaching the Pakistani coast.

[tso310]

Looks like TG916/922, BA10 and BR67 are still using the long route. 5 Air India a/c has transited Pakistani airspace. THY and Virgin flights using new route. Probably to do with when their flight plans were filed and couldn't get them re-authorised in time. 

[KhunBENQ]

Just realized that I have missed the good news.

Pakistan lifted the restrictions.

Flight to/from Europe can use the usual/best routes (maybe avoiding Iran airspace?).

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48999736

 

Example: yesterdays flight BKK - FRA (TG922).

 

Edited July 20, 2019 by KhunBENQ